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Boyfriend trapped with parents - what should I do?

435 replies

SarahPickles · 08/05/2019 12:43

Three years ago a colleague and I fell in love. He is the most decent, caring, loyal, honest, kind man. The man I waited all my life to meet. He is 56 and I am 60, we are single, and we want to spend the rest of our lives together.

I own a house with ample space for him. But he lives with his parents because they are frail and elderly. He works as a clerk close to the house (in case they need him). All the rest of his time he is their (unpaid) carer, cook, cleaner, nurse, chauffeur, housekeeper, gardener and handyman.

We've spent a lot of time together at work, during breaks, plus about 6 hours during the weekend. He is always "on call" on his mobile. That means no trips away, no holidays and he can never stay at mine because we live 20 miles apart and he can't leave them alone all night.

I have nagged him to demand they give him more time off. They stubbornly refuse every suggestion. Won't hire anyone ("can't afford it/don't want strangers in the house") or apply for carer's allowance ("We'd never sponge off the State"), or allow any outside agency to get involved. They vow never to go into a home.

Their answer to everything is "We've got you. We don't need anyone else. You'll have your freedom when we're dead".

You could say they are holding him prisoner, partly emotional blackmail and partly dangling their £500k house equity as his eventual "payment" for years of unpaid labour. So he is trapped until they both die. That could be another 10 or 20 years.

I asked him to move in with me, (and marry me, so he inherits my house and savings) and force them to get carers' allowance to pay him and others to visit and look after them. But the State won't pay enough to cover 24 hour care, plus there is the neverending DIY he currently does. Plus he'd feel awful for abanoning them. So that is a "no".

I have retired and no longer see him daily at the office. So we are reduced to meeting for about 6 hrs a week. I have to drive 20 miles and sit in cafes, or pay for a hotel room (£80). Or he visits me for a couple of hours, and sits with one eye on his mobile in case they ring.

I feel fed up, aggrieved, lonely and hopeless about our future. He promises we WILL be together but I cannot pursue the question "when?" because that means speculating on when his parents will die, which is deeply distasteful. He admits that his mother could outlive him. I asked, "Where does that leave us?" His reply: "I'm trapped. I can't walk away, can I? I am sure it will sort itself out in the end."

I've thought hard about selling my gorgeous, unique home in a lovely area of a lovely town and moving to his (grotty) town and having to start all over again. My best friend said NO absolutely do NOT uproot yourself and lose your home and friends etc for a man who doesn't even have the balls to stand up to his parents. Even if I did, he still would not be able to move in with me. It would only remove the 40 mile round trip to meet up. I'd be paying a huge price for that.

Should I settle for a handful of hours a week with him, because he's my "ideal man", even if this isn't an "ideal situation"?

Or should I nag him to stand up to them and insist things change? Is it unethical to make demands, when they genuinely need him and I am self sufficient?

What do others do in this situation?

OP posts:
IrishGal21 · 08/05/2019 17:57

i wuold disagree...i would say you are dating ALL 3 of them!!! As the situation stands they are forever present in your relationship.

Hope you have a good talk with him about your future and something gives......the only other way would be for him to take some days off work here and there and you both have a lovely day out together guilt free he doesnt have to tell them he is not at work he is 60 fgs lol poor bloke

give him these to read:

www.forbes.com/sites/carolynrosenblatt/2011/01/27/5-success-tips-with-difficult-aging-parents/

www.forbes.com/sites/carolynrosenblatt/2017/05/24/will-caring-for-aging-parents-destroy-your-family-relationships/

www.webmd.com/balance/features/am-i-responsible-for-my-aging-parents

I am sure you can find some more.

If they dont want strangers in the house would they consider going to a coffee morning for seniors or maybe some kind of class during the day....arent they bored out of their tree?

IrishGal21 · 08/05/2019 18:00

There is someone on the 'single middle aged man' thread who says they have a single friend on the south coast.....???? could you be tempted?

Sallycinammonbangsthedruminthe · 08/05/2019 18:01

I think it all boils down to the fact this man has absolutely nothing to offer you OP....Bloody hell you should both be living the high life at your ages...no kids to tie you down..your retirement,,financially ok..holidays galore and more important each other to cherish....from him regardless of his parents you have nothing.....he has no money,no proper job,,no home of his own zilch..zero,, nada..you have he hasnt...and the only one who thinks its a problem is you.....

Roussette · 08/05/2019 18:01

The thing is... no one wants to spend time with someone who just doesn't want to be there, who keeps checking their phone, who feels guilty, who isn't 100% on board. I would hate that and I'm sure you would too Sarah.

He's got to want to be with you more than anything. And he doesn't.

SarahPickles · 08/05/2019 18:02

Jux

"Say he was .. hospitalised for a fortnight?"

I've said the same darned thing to him a few times now. He has no answer.

"What does he do re holidays? Does he only ever have 'staycations'"

Holidays he stays home and knuckles down to some serious DIY usually decorating.

diddl

He moved back in in 2009. I don't know anything about his parents personal finances. Maybe they just struggled week by week and his moving in was a financial godsend as well as having a full time slave.

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Sallycinammonbangsthedruminthe · 08/05/2019 18:05

he has no solutions because it does suit him...if he wanted you he would move heaven and earth to find solutions...if he is hanging on for them to die for the inheritance too that is not a sign of a decent man either in my book..

AttilaTheMeerkat · 08/05/2019 18:05

"If they dont want strangers in the house would they consider going to a coffee morning for seniors or maybe some kind of class during the day....arent they bored out of their tree?"

They do not consider themselves as bored out of their tree. You need to consider the possibility that in their mind they are not doing anything wrong here.

They are anti social to say the very least and they likely never went out to any such gatherings when they were younger. They've never likely wanted other people to interact or be friends with either but just use for their own ends.

zippey · 08/05/2019 18:09

He must love his parents, which is normal.

Do you have children? In your OP you say you want him to move in and marry so he can have half your savings and house. I don’t think that’s a wise move for someone you’ve only known for a few years.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 08/05/2019 18:09

Sarah

re your comments in quote marks
"Say he was .. hospitalised for a fortnight?
I've said the same darned thing to him a few times now. He has no answer".

That is a fair question to ask him. My BIL has no answer either, they do not think it will ever happen to them.

"What does he do re holidays? Does he only ever have 'staycations'"

In my BILs case the answer is yes. No-one comes to their house and visitors are not readily if at all encouraged.

Roussette · 08/05/2019 18:10

Sarah you should be with someone who wants to be with you. Who would move heaven and earth to make it happen. He's just not doing it. He dismisses any ideas about how to make things better. I doubt he's even broached the subject with them, they probably make it quite clear without him speaking to them about it. I bet they've been in a right panic these last 3 years you've been around! They could've lost their painter, gardener, decorator, DIYer, cook and cleaner! I wonder what poison they feed him about you.... in order to keep him there

Saying 'you'll get your freedom when we're dead' (or words to that effect) is absolutely vile. I'm surprised he can't see that.

diddl · 08/05/2019 18:10

" as well as having a full time slave."

Tbh the way you talk about them is horrible.

He's a grown man who had an independent life & then for whatever reason(s) moved back in with his mum & dad.

How are these frail people forcing him to do so much around the house?

Ratatatouille · 08/05/2019 18:10

The inheritance is a red herring being dangled by the parents. If this situation continues for 20 years which it easily could, that's £25k per year from NOW, nevermind the years he has already poured into caring for them full time. £25k pa in exchange for round the clock care and being on-call 24/7 is not a good deal. And if he inherits this sum in old age, how useful is it actually going to be? What's he going to do with it when he's as elderly and infirm as they are now? Spend it on carers. He could undoubtedly find more profitable ways to spend his time right now if the money is a consideration, and he could actually benefit from the cash.

The far bigger issue is the FOG that so many other PPs have talked about. He feels so obligated to provide this care that it trumps everything; you, his wellbeing, his ability to enjoy his life. He wishes he could break free, but he is so consumed by this feeling of obligation that it is quite literally impossible. I bet he would find it easier to fly to the moon. It's very easy to say "just tell them you're not doing it anymore" but it's just not that simple for him.

Unfortunately I doubt the situation regarding his parents will change. If it's been 3 years and he hasn't found the ability or sought the appropriate help to be able to step back then it seems incredibly unlikely that he will do so in the future. So your options are either walk away and open yourself up to the possibility of meeting someone less complicated, or accept that this is the situation forever. You can't bank on things changing because as he acknowledges, his mother could outlive him or he might be in poor health by the time they die.

Would it be more painful for you to spend the rest of your life feeling angry, hurt and frustrated on behalf of this man, as well as not feeling fulfilled by the relationship, or would it be more painful to move on? Unfortunately I think those are the options.

Prequelle · 08/05/2019 18:11

It's quite possible that one of you will die before they do. I know that sounds horrible but it's the reality. Don't waste the rest of your life

Ratatatouille · 08/05/2019 18:15

Tbh the way you talk about them is horrible.

Can you really blame her? This couple have options. They would not starve without their son's help. They just won't entertain any of the avenues that are open to them because they are more comfortable with their son providing all of their care and household assistance, even though they are aware that it is costing him his quality of life and potentially his relationship. Would you treat your child like that?

Hellywelly10 · 08/05/2019 18:16

No im not thinking hes got a wife and kids, im thinking why cant you come in the house for a cup of tea? Your not a stranger.

diddl · 08/05/2019 18:20

"Can you really blame her?"

Well he's hardly a slave is he?

A lot of what he does benefits him as he lives there!

They managed before he moved back in & could anage again.

Perhaps a lot of what he does is because they are providing him with somewhere to live.

Being constantly "on call" for them & the limited time he spends with Op is his choice.

SarahPickles · 08/05/2019 18:22

zippey

"Do you have children?"

No.

"you want him to move in and marry so he can have half your savings and house. I don’t think that’s a wise move for someone you’ve only known for a few years."

Many people get married after knowing someone for a fraction of the time I have known him. I've known him closely as a colleague for 5 years and as a boyfriend as well for 3. He would only get the house and all my savings when I die. Same as any married couple. I am pointing this out to show that if he gave up his chance of inheriting from his parents, he would not lose anything financially because I would give him that same security.

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popehilarious · 08/05/2019 18:23

OP, this is mumsnet, you're gonna get a load of goady posts or posters that massively project their own experiences- just ignore them.

There was a thread in the past few days from a female OP who was in a similar position to your partner re responsibilities to parents that she couldn't shake - although they had plenty of money, but were similarly stubborn. obviously she got a completely different response than you are!, but the general view was she needed to lower contact/ responsibilities in any way she could.

SarahPickles · 08/05/2019 18:24

Thanks for all the links to webpages about how to deal with demanding, selfish, elderly parents. It never crossed my mind to google for this. I will send him all those links.

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IrmaFayLear · 08/05/2019 18:26

How about one step at a time, OP?

You say he won't go on holiday, but you could suggest a weekend break. Just two days. Not an airy fairy plan, but, "Here, I like the look of this hotel in the Cotswolds. Shall we book it, Jim? Go on, Jim, be a devil!"

If Jim absolutely steadfastly refuses, or says he can't possibly etc etc, then I think you know that things and he are not going to change. However much you want them to, he does not have the will to improve your relationship.

dimsum123 · 08/05/2019 18:28

Ditch him. Plenty more fish in the sea.

MrJollyLivesNextDoor · 08/05/2019 18:28

Oh goodness OP

You've never ever met his parents? Who he lives with, and you've been in s relationship for 3 years?

This is mystifying tbh. You say you haven't been there because they won't allow strangers in...you're their son's partner! Haven't they wanted to meet you?

SarahPickles · 08/05/2019 18:29

popehilarious

There was a thread in the past few days from a female OP who was in a similar position to your partner re responsibilities to parents that she couldn't shake - although they had plenty of money, but were similarly stubborn. obviously she got a completely different response than you are

Having read the replies on here I am not surprised. A woman caring for her parents = kind, compassionate, person who lives up to her responsibilies; a heroine. A man caring for his = a weak, spineless pathetic creature who should be dumped.

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QueenOfTheCroneAge · 08/05/2019 18:29

Well, this thread has certainly made me realise how free I am in my 60s. Adult DC, no living parents, and single! if I ever do seek out a partner, I will look very carefully at his dealings with aged parents. I can't imagine myself living with crumbs like this.

Fere · 08/05/2019 18:30

I think he is settled in his ways and got sucked up into being a carer.

I can't believe he needs every year 4 weeks of decorating. Nobody needs that much time to decorate houses every year if there are only grown ups living together (unless they have many pets but you haven't mentioned any).

He is happy with his life as it is and won't change anything.