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Boyfriend trapped with parents - what should I do?

435 replies

SarahPickles · 08/05/2019 12:43

Three years ago a colleague and I fell in love. He is the most decent, caring, loyal, honest, kind man. The man I waited all my life to meet. He is 56 and I am 60, we are single, and we want to spend the rest of our lives together.

I own a house with ample space for him. But he lives with his parents because they are frail and elderly. He works as a clerk close to the house (in case they need him). All the rest of his time he is their (unpaid) carer, cook, cleaner, nurse, chauffeur, housekeeper, gardener and handyman.

We've spent a lot of time together at work, during breaks, plus about 6 hours during the weekend. He is always "on call" on his mobile. That means no trips away, no holidays and he can never stay at mine because we live 20 miles apart and he can't leave them alone all night.

I have nagged him to demand they give him more time off. They stubbornly refuse every suggestion. Won't hire anyone ("can't afford it/don't want strangers in the house") or apply for carer's allowance ("We'd never sponge off the State"), or allow any outside agency to get involved. They vow never to go into a home.

Their answer to everything is "We've got you. We don't need anyone else. You'll have your freedom when we're dead".

You could say they are holding him prisoner, partly emotional blackmail and partly dangling their £500k house equity as his eventual "payment" for years of unpaid labour. So he is trapped until they both die. That could be another 10 or 20 years.

I asked him to move in with me, (and marry me, so he inherits my house and savings) and force them to get carers' allowance to pay him and others to visit and look after them. But the State won't pay enough to cover 24 hour care, plus there is the neverending DIY he currently does. Plus he'd feel awful for abanoning them. So that is a "no".

I have retired and no longer see him daily at the office. So we are reduced to meeting for about 6 hrs a week. I have to drive 20 miles and sit in cafes, or pay for a hotel room (£80). Or he visits me for a couple of hours, and sits with one eye on his mobile in case they ring.

I feel fed up, aggrieved, lonely and hopeless about our future. He promises we WILL be together but I cannot pursue the question "when?" because that means speculating on when his parents will die, which is deeply distasteful. He admits that his mother could outlive him. I asked, "Where does that leave us?" His reply: "I'm trapped. I can't walk away, can I? I am sure it will sort itself out in the end."

I've thought hard about selling my gorgeous, unique home in a lovely area of a lovely town and moving to his (grotty) town and having to start all over again. My best friend said NO absolutely do NOT uproot yourself and lose your home and friends etc for a man who doesn't even have the balls to stand up to his parents. Even if I did, he still would not be able to move in with me. It would only remove the 40 mile round trip to meet up. I'd be paying a huge price for that.

Should I settle for a handful of hours a week with him, because he's my "ideal man", even if this isn't an "ideal situation"?

Or should I nag him to stand up to them and insist things change? Is it unethical to make demands, when they genuinely need him and I am self sufficient?

What do others do in this situation?

OP posts:
horizontalis · 08/05/2019 17:14

OP, you mention that it is a religious Christian family. Has he talked to his minister or priest about his situation?

SarahPickles · 08/05/2019 17:17

Oliversmumsarmy

"you are the one paying for a hotel room and doing the running around because he can’t afford to"

None of that is true. Are you being deliberately antagonistic or what?

I don't do any running around. I've never paid for a hotel room to see him.

I used to see him all day every day at work. Now I have retired we are reduced to a few hours at the weekend. He drives to me. He pays for his fuel.

If I want to see him more often on a weekday I would have to drive to his town and sit in a cafe or pub, or pay for a hotel, because I can't go to his parents house, because they won't have strangers in, and anyway I would not want to spend the evening sitting with people I resent, unable to relax and talk freely.

OP posts:
SarahPickles · 08/05/2019 17:19

horizontalis No, they don't attend any church any more.

OP posts:
diddl · 08/05/2019 17:20

", because I can't go to his parents house, because they won't have strangers in, and anyway I would not want to spend the evening sitting with people I resent, unable to relax and talk freely."

Do you only have his word for that?

IrishGal21 · 08/05/2019 17:24

Isnt there a Christian charity/ church in the area they would trust and a volunteer could come over a few times a week and give the son a break...there are so many support groups no give google a good go and find one x

NoCauseRebel · 08/05/2019 17:24

OP, why did his relationship end? Or at least, why does he say his relationship ended?

And what do you think would have happened if it hadn’t ended? Because while I see to an extent that you say that he lives with his parents and can’t do anything outside of the home because he isn’t permitted to do so, the reality is that if his relationship hadn’t ended he wouldn’t have been in a position to move in with his parents and ban his partner from the house because the parents didn’t like outsiders.

Nobody has been nasty or lied here, but there is so so much about this situation which just doesn’t add up which is why people are questioning what he has told you.

RussianSpamBot · 08/05/2019 17:28

I am happier to have him in my life than to not have him. I just want more of it.

Right. Well for whatever reason, he has made it clear this isn't going to happen now, and you cannot assume it ever will. So you either deal with the unhappiness of not having him or the unhappiness of not having the amount of him you want.

justasking111 · 08/05/2019 17:28

My divorced met a man like this. He was lovely, his parents never even met her. All his relationships had collapsed because of his parents so did his with my Mother in the end. They stayed friends, same bowls club. Some men are just not marriage material, sorry OP.

SarahPickles · 08/05/2019 17:33

diddl

"Do you only have his word for that?"

I have my word for that. I would hate spending any time with them. I'd be forcing myself to make pointless small talk with people I deeply resent. Besides, I am dating him, not his parents.

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mummmy2017 · 08/05/2019 17:33

Move next door to the mum and dad. Slowly weed him off and get in home help, via social services . .
Is some of his time better than none?

Hellywelly10 · 08/05/2019 17:34

Its strange that youve never been to the house op.

EjectorCrab · 08/05/2019 17:34

I’m not sure what you want us all to say. It sounds like you either continue the way you are, or you end the relationship. He doesn’t seem willing or is unable to extricate himself from his current position.

QueenOfTheCroneAge · 08/05/2019 17:36

@NoCauseRebel raises some valid points. And yes, some of his story just doesn't add up.

Tinkobell · 08/05/2019 17:37

Even if you did manage to persuade him to break loose OP, would you really want the love and company of a person in this situation? He'd be very stressed out, feel heartbroken and possibly angry at you. This man sounds like he has been controlled his whole life. If he's to change his life now...and he's got a glimmer to do that, it must be entirely and wholeheartedly of his own free will. Any other way - persuasion, ultimatums etc - you do risk scarring your future happiness together. Suggest a breather for a month or two. Give him headspace.

diddl · 08/05/2019 17:42

"I have my word for that."

Well obviously-I meant that they won't allow strangers in.

It's not his home as well then?

woolduvet · 08/05/2019 17:43

It's tricky and you do seem to want a form of a relationship.
For me it'd be dependent on being welcomed into his home at the weekend so you can spend some quality time. There's absolutely no urgent need for mowing or painting every weekend. If he couldn't offer me that small amount of stress free time I don't think I could see a future.

churchthecat · 08/05/2019 17:47

Option 1. Keep your options open. There might be an even better man out there that you're overlooking because you're committed to this one.

Option 2. Tell him to write a letter to them telling them he's off, he's not wasting any more of his life being manipulated by them. Then move him in with you and change his number. He can just leave if he wants to.

Option 3. Have them bumped off.

Tinkobell · 08/05/2019 17:47

Move next door to the mum and dad. Slowly weed him off and get in home help, via social services . .
Is some of his time better than none?

Not a bad idea....although you might invariably have to be prepared to roll up your sleeves and help out? Or at least end up doing so if you want time together. I do think love can conquer all, and really the 'grotty' town thing wouldn't matter if you truly wanted to be together.

Starlight456 · 08/05/2019 17:48

I think the problem here is while he might be a lovely guy he is not really any more available than a married man ( though not cheating) so really it is irrelevant if you want a proper relationship with him as he isn't available.

I think at 56 I would treat him as a friend and make myself available otherwise you might spend the rest of your life waiting on a man who may not be available for another 30 years.

SarahPickles · 08/05/2019 17:49

mummmy2017

"Move next door to the mum and dad. Slowly weed him off and get in home help, via social services."

Funnily enough, that was one of the cunning plans I considered when I thought about moving near them.Not next door but a few streets away. Gradually get him to spend more time and mine and less time at theirs, whilst somehow persuading him to persuade them to get State allowances and pay for more care. But then I decided not to uproot myself and move towns.

Hellywelly10

"Its strange that youve never been to the house op".

Well I have, but not inside. We've walked to it together and stood outside whilst he pointed out various things and we chatted for a bit then walked back. (Are we back to that nonsense that I am so thick I have not realised he's got a wife and kids?)

NoCauseRebel what doesn't "add up"? I cannot lay out his entire life story and relationship and work history on this thread. It's the here and now that matters and I have told what I need to, to explain my situation.

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AttilaTheMeerkat · 08/05/2019 17:51

Tinkobell

That's not a bad idea, that is a shockingly awful idea. And love does not conquer all (that is best left as an idea in fairytales).

OPs best friend summed it up to OP:-

"My best friend said NO absolutely do NOT uproot yourself and lose your home and friends etc for a man who doesn't even have the balls to stand up to his parents. Even if I did, he still would not be able to move in with me. It would only remove the 40 mile round trip to meet up. I'd be paying a huge price for that".

HopelesslydevotedtoGu · 08/05/2019 17:51

I am happier to have him in my life than to not have him. I just want more of it

This is the issue- you can't have more of him, at least not anytime soon (unless he makes a different choice).

In fact as his parents get older and frailer it is likely they will demand more of his time and energy, and he will probably choose to give you less.

If you did leave your nice area to move to his less nice area, I doubt you would see much more of him- his parents evidently don't like your involvement in his life, and I could imagine them suddenly demanding more of his time, so he still only sees you once a week.

At the moment you have a fun solo life on your own in your current town, friends, activities, a nice home. If you moved to his area, far from your friends, you may end up more lonely when he isn't available, and desperate for more of his time- at the moment at least you can get on with your own life happily six days a week.

The inheritance hold over him will get stronger over time- the sunk cost fallacy. He will think "now I've spent five years waiting for this inheritance I can't back out now..... now I've spent ten years waiting for this inheritance I definitely can't back out now.... oh, I can only see my girlfriend once a month now, but I've spent fifteen years waiting for this inheritance there's no way I can back out, I just need to hold on a bit longer....". Over time he will likely get less and less willing to assert any independence.

I hear you when you say the current situation his preferable to being without him. Do regard this situation as unlikely to improve, and fairly likely to get worse, over the years. Obviously you can conclude that it's better to be in this relationship as it stands- but please continue to maintain your friendships, your hobbies, and stay in your lovely area, as you will need them.

Jux · 08/05/2019 17:54

Say he was taken ill and was hospitalised for a fortnight? Or sent away for work? How would his parents cope?

He needs to get other care in place for them because he will ha a breakdown at some point, if he doesn't respite. What does he do re holidays? Does he only ever have 'staycations'?

diddl · 08/05/2019 17:55

How long ago did he move back in-when he lost his house?

How were his parents affording the house before then?

AttilaTheMeerkat · 08/05/2019 17:56

It suits this man on some level to live as he is; his responsibilities start and end with his parents who keep him well under their thumb. They've been doing this with him their entire lives and this life he has now is all he knows.

Theirs is a dysfunctional codependent relationship and your relationship with him in turn is also built on sand. He will continue to put their wishes well above yours out of both a misplaced sense of duty and obligation. I also think he will never sit in front of any therapist either.