Would you be with someone who says being gay is unnatural?

[joliejoleen]

This man that I've been seeing thinks that being gay is unnatural. He wouldn't go out in the street and protest against gay people or ever attack them. He just thinks that being gay is unnatural and doesn't want his children to grow up thinking being gay is okay because it isn't. Would you ltb?

I love that OP has made exactly two posts and the rest is people weighing in to say what an awful bigot the man is

and the rest is people weighing in to say what an awful bigot the man is

It's the minority making mealy-mouthed comments about how it's not really homophobia, and everyone has the right to their opinion, and it's OK unless he actually goes out attacking gay people, and one person saying it wouldn't bother them because it didn't have any impact on their life that are alarming me.

I couldn't stay in a relationship with this person. Being homosexual is natural, and nothing to be ashamed of, threatened or disgusted by.

I don't disagree that it's a bigoted thing to think. It's just amusing how much people want to share their outrage! I suppose what really keeps the thread going is people getting riled up by the trolls.

I'm not convinced they're trolls, della. I think some people do think like that still.

Or maybe people care about the issue?!

For me as a non-straight person it’s positive and encouraging to see a majority of straight people posting supportive messages about something that doesn’t directly concern them. People who find the thread boring and trollish could maybe find a different thread to post on that does pique their interest?

dangerrabbit I didn't mean to offend! I can see it's positive that most people seem to agree it's an offensive view to hold, and am glad you find it affirming.

Wiki is endlessly re-edited stuff, and what tends to stay up longer than two minutes is a fairly uncontroversial middle-ground.

Wiki isn't an authority in definitions to me...but if you take it as gospel, that's ok.

And you wouldn't include telling his girlfriend that being gay is 'unnatural'

His view IMO is not homophobic. Not wanting your child to be gay, is not homophobic...it's just not a choice many people would want.

Not wanting any kind of choice for my DC...does not constitute hate. That's my point with my example ...it's just different.

I was raised that having DC before marriage was wrong. That doesn't translate to my parents being haters of those that do...it's just not what they wanted for me.

For you it's only an issue if he starts spitting at same sex couples holding hands, or picketing gay weddings?

You've gone off the point of normal discussion here....and engaging further with you is pretty pointless.

Doing the above is assault and culminates hate crime. An individual opinion, where he would not treat a gay person less favourably is not hate.

Difference and diversity is the key here. Nobody is better than anyone else...some of us are different and that's what children growing up should be taught. That they have no right to be unkind to another individual because of their differences, whatever they may be.

Sandy, you seem to be experiencing considerable comprehension difficulty, but I think I've concluded why you are posting the way you are, so knock yourself out.

Just introduce them to some gay people.

It is incredible how preconceived ideas melt in the face of humanity.

doesn't want his children to grow up thinking being gay is okay because it isn't.

‘because it isnt’ is the phrase that stands out for me. He can have the view that he himself would not want to be gay, he could even have the view that he wouldn’t want his kids to be gay (although that is a very sad view to have) BUT to have the view that being gay is not ok for anyone is homophobic.

@dellacucina
Sorry!!! been at work all day 😅
I've read everything that has been posted just now...
I'm gutted as I really like the guy. He IS religious but he's always reiterated that he's only moderately religious 🙄 I have been texting him and trying to find out more info... he has indeed said that he can't go against God and that homosexuality is sodomy 😑

I'm trying to post a screenshot of his message but it's not coming up even though it says 'success' 😑

'I have my rights and my rights to my own opinions. I disagree with homosexuality and will not be teaching my children that it's ok to be gay, i will teach them to love humans so long as they treat you right. And you can love a man like a brother a father but as a partner in life... I'm sorry i won't. Just like your academic brain finds it hard to believe we were created rather than a big bang made us out of nowhere for no reason'

Moderately religious 🙄

My best friend is gay so that would certainly cause issues

My first LTB.

Arghhhh it's so frustrating.
I've even sent him links from scientific journals that talk about changes in chromosomes that could determine whether someone is gay... but I'm talking to a wall.

I think I would be able to get over the 'unnatural' bit (just about). What really bothers me is the 'being gay isn't okay' part.

@SandyY2K

What choice?

It's like saying you don't want your child to think it's okay to have green eyes. It just doesn't make sense.

Then there's the thing that he seems rather fixated on gay males. What about females? How very Victorian!

Also the crack about 'your academic brain'. That to me sounds like a chip on the shoulder in the making.

You're not sounding terribly compatible here. . .

Don't waste energy trying to convince him! Bin and move on. Take the things you like about him and build those into your mental template of the relationship you want.

YY I thought "your academic brain" was patronising as well.

He's totally entitled to his opinion. You're entitled to decide his opinions make you incompatible.

Ltb

Ugh.

Run like fuck and don't look back.