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Would you be with someone who says being gay is unnatural?

282 replies

joliejoleen · 06/05/2019 17:54

This man that I've been seeing thinks that being gay is unnatural. He wouldn't go out in the street and protest against gay people or ever attack them. He just thinks that being gay is unnatural and doesn't want his children to grow up thinking being gay is okay because it isn't. Would you ltb?

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Halo84 · 07/05/2019 00:07

People can change positions.

You may want to point out to him that homosexuality exists in nature, so, by definition, it cannot be unnatural.

MeltingSnowflake · 07/05/2019 00:11

F*ck no!

dragonflyflew · 07/05/2019 00:14

Ugh. No I couldn’t. I have been out with various people with strong (right wing type) opinions and was brought up by a crazy woman who believed all gays (amongst others) are all going to hell.
If he has such strong opinions about gays I guarantee there’s something else which will come out further down the line that you don’t like.
I remember when my son was a toddler I or somebody bought him a toy pink pushchair to push around, he loved it. My exh hated it and based on various little tiny boy behaviours I realised he was a bit homophobic. I asked what he’d do if our son was gay and he replied ‘he won’t be’ and it was clear he would not have been happy about it.
I’ve had friends and partners from all walks of life and I’ve turned a blind eye/ear to a lot of things whereas now I would either challenge it or ditch those people.
The older we get the less tolerant we become and I’m less tolerant of bigots !

Tavannach · 07/05/2019 00:16

Being gay isn't normal. (4.5% population)

6% by Treasury estimates.
And, as pp has said, don't conflate uncommon with abnormal.

dragonflyflew · 07/05/2019 00:16

Halo84 please can you expand about homosexuality in nature? I did not know this!
Seriously, if people could choose their sexuality I’m pretty sure there’d be a LOT more lesbians!

dragonflyflew · 07/05/2019 00:17

Sorry. I realise my post is littered with typos. Hope you get the gist

Musti · 07/05/2019 00:25

My ex is slightly homophobic and it changed the way I viewed him. I also had to counter the homophobic crap he told my children. Luckily, either because my children are being brought up in a more tolerant society or because I've always spoken up, my children aren't bothered about homosexuality.

IfOnlyOurEyesSawSouls · 07/05/2019 00:32

Erm no .

gilchrist168 · 07/05/2019 00:37

He wouldn't go out in the street and protest against gay people or ever attack them.
Well now, you've got yourself a good ole law abiding bigot there hun.

Perhaps, tell him that the mandatory wearing of pink or black triangles stopped when Nazi Germany fell.....so he might struggle to recognise one, should he feel the urge to rush out onto High Street waving his pick axe handle.Hmm

SandyY2K · 07/05/2019 00:40

There is a difference in thinking something isn't natural and being homophobic.

I find the minute you say you don't think something is normal/natural you get branded a phobic of whatever that is.

My view is each to their own and that nobody should be treated less favourably because of who they are, as far as race, religion, sexual orientation disability etc are concerned.

Belonging to any of these groups is really nobody else's business.

Bubblegumgal · 07/05/2019 00:54

Nope. Couldn’t stay with a bigot.

Saltystraw · 07/05/2019 01:07

His unbringing might have something to do with how he feels.. is there a chance he could be re educated? What is he likecin other ways and do his other values and opinions match yours?

Honestly I wouldn’t like someone I was with to have these views but I also feel like people can change.

Halo84 · 07/05/2019 01:07

@dragonflyflew, there has been observation of sexual activity among other species, AFAIK, males only, but I could be wrong on that.

books.google.ca/books?id=KXM3F59y1jkC&printsec=frontcover#v=onepage&q&f=false

Anecdotally, my father grew up in a farm. His parents bought a bull to inseminate their cows. But the bull never showed any interest in the cows, and would only mount other males.

Flute56 · 07/05/2019 01:13

What is the purpose of this question? Do you have a gay family member? or friends who are gay?

Beeziekn33ze · 07/05/2019 01:17

Hell no!

Gingerkittykat · 07/05/2019 01:25

My ex is a massive homophobe, I did try and argue with him many times on the issue but he never changed his mind.

He has 4 kids, one DD is a lesbian and DS bisexual. They both stopped contact with him in early teenage years and hate him now. Their relationship with him has sadly damaged them both.

StoatofDisarray · 07/05/2019 02:20

No.

HopelesslydevotedtoGu · 07/05/2019 07:45

There are example of gay animals in other species, not just in humans. It's not unnatural, it happens in nature.

Obviously one of his children might be gay, some people are.

I wouldn't want to be in a relationship with him.

LittleLongDog · 07/05/2019 07:58

@Arusedmoose it is quite possible that you could have a child who is gay. Or if you have children at all and he passes this view on to them. Does that not bother you?

Do you not have any gay friends/siblings/cousins/coworkers? Does it not bother you that he feels that way about them?

EmpressLesbianInChair · 07/05/2019 08:32

He wouldn't go out in the street and protest against gay people or ever attack them.

Then he’s one up on Stonewall & the ‘queer’ community who happily call the police on and / or protest against / attack lesbians & other women when we define ourselves as female homosexuals. They call us bigots & vagina fetishists.

If all the posters on this thread who are standing up for same-sex attraction felt like tweeting / emailing / facebooking Stonewall to object to their homophobic views, that would be brilliant.

crumpet · 07/05/2019 08:38

I wouldn’t. It’s such a fundamentally different life value that I simply could not see any form of future with them.

BarbedBloom · 07/05/2019 08:44

No, I am bi sexual myself and it would go against my own values. Plus several of my close friends are gay so I wouldn't want him around them.

SimplySteveRedux · 07/05/2019 08:45

You need to ask?

ravenmum · 07/05/2019 08:53

There is a difference in thinking something isn't natural and being homophobic.
This man "doesn't want his children to grow up thinking being gay is okay because it isn't": he thinks that being gay is not okay = he doesn't approve of gay people. That's homophobic.

Sunshineandflipflops · 07/05/2019 08:57

Homosexuality is normal. As is any other sexual orientation.

We all have our own views of 'normal' and therefore it is a very subjective concept, however for me it is not 'normal' or 'natural' to be hateful towards other people because of who they love (providing it isn't breaking any laws of course).

There are things I'd put up with if I cared about someone, but homophobia or bigotry of any kind would not be one of them. Something I believe so passionately about I would not and could not compromise on or ignore.

Also, but actually beside the point, my 13 year old dd is gay and so is my brother so for someone to tell me they thought homosexuality was 'unnatural' would be a very personal attack on me and there is no-one on this planet that I would put up with that from.

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