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Forced to spend insane amount on wedding..Should I marry him? Feeling torn.

383 replies

sakurawarrior · 28/04/2019 07:50

Ok, this is going to be a long post so I need to apologise - but I want to explain as thoroughly as I can. I'm not a mum but I wanted some sensible advice.

I'm in my late twenties. Four years ago I met my bf on the internet. After a year of a long distance relationship, I emigrated to the country he was living in to be with him. I know, that sounds nuts. A huge step. Needless to say, I was infatuated with him.

My history - Before him, I had two previous relationships. The first one when I was 16. I suspect now he was personality disordered. He 10 timed me and beat the shit out of me, then impregnated a married woman 20 years older than him. Needless to say, that damaged me and it took a year or two to recover. The next relationship lasted 5 years. I left him in the end because he kept binge drinking, slapped me across the face when I asked him to do something and a few other abusive incidents (he wasn't a complete psycho like the last one but less than perfect).

So anyway, back my present bf. He is Asian and thus came with some cultural baggage. His parents live in his home country and always expected him to have an arranged marriage. After we'd been together several months he told them he met me and he wants to be with me. They were extremely upset and disapproving and came up with a whole litany of reasons why I was a bad idea - I wouldn't be understanding of their culture, I would divorce him after a couple of years, I didn't hold a masters degree, my degree subject wasn't prestigious enough, westerners have no morals or values, we wouldn't suit each other... on and on it went.

He told me that he would stay in a relationship with me as long as possible, but couldn't marry me without their approval. He said the shame his parents would face would ruin their lives and the people around them would bully them and gossip making their lives a misery. He said we could only marry with their approval. But if by the time he got to 29 years old the social pressure to marry is too great, and if they didn't accept by then he would be forced to leave me. Of course, I hated this, but I tried to understand from his perspective because I loved him so much.

Fast forward two years and they have finally accepted with a condition. The wedding has to happen according to their customs, in their home country, and me and my parents must contribute to half the costs, which would come to an insane 20 grand. They will not compromise on this and bf has said he will leave me for an arranged marriage otherwise. Me and my parents could scrape together this amount of money but it just seems so wrong to spend this much on a wedding and to be forced to, as well. bf said his parents are compromising so much as they don't want me as a DIL at all, so now me and my parents need to compromise with spending the money and doing it their way.

I'm so conflicted I feel torn up inside. I feel like I don't know what to do anymore. My dad suggested that the money should be used as a house deposit instead of a wedding, and his parents got really offended by this, saying it's not about the money but about carrying out all the customs and traditions, and spending that amount of money is the only way it can be done.
My dad also thought I should ditch him on the principle that he would ultimately leave me if things came to that. There's a part of me that feels he is right, but I also have to understand my bf and his parent's POV. Holding some many conflicting views in my mind and so many shades of grey is driving me insane, frankly.

I've been reading through some of MN posts and I see the tendency to advocate leaving the relationship rather than staying. Honestly from the start our relationship has had huge strain because of these problems and my MH has naturally taken a hit. I've seen a number of therapists even one from his background - they didn't have an answer about the culture thing but said he is bordering emotionally abusive to me. (If he is annoyed at me he tends to give me the silent treatment, not at all great and the one problem in our relationship apart from the marriage issue).

I want a fresh perspective on this all. I don't know what to do. Any advice greatly appreciated. Tysm if you made it through this post.

OP posts:
Graphista · 28/04/2019 23:02

You have absolutely no reason to believe what he claimed they were saying he could have lied about it all.

That aside he treats you appallingly so I'm glad you've ended it - stick to that please and get some good therapy/do freedom programme.

Aria999 · 28/04/2019 23:25

Well done Op. your future will be better without this situation and these people.

altiara · 28/04/2019 23:42

I was wondering why he hasn’t offered to put money towards your half of the 20k!
Anyway good decision for you, if he can’t stand up for you/himself at this age, then he’s not suddenly going to turn around and be a good boyfriend.
Wishing you lots of luck to move on with your life while you’re still very young Flowers

Qweenbee · 28/04/2019 23:42

I think it's for the best. Sorry.

ThanksMateThanksMate · 28/04/2019 23:43

You've been through so much. Please allow your friends and your family to take care of you and allow yourself the time to digest everything. Things will be different one day. X

Honeyroar · 29/04/2019 00:46

Ring your parents. I expect they will be relieved and do everything they can to support you (unlike your useless boyfriend who has done nothing to remotely support you!)

returnofthecat · 29/04/2019 01:42

Stay strong. Ultimately, it never mattered what his parents thought of you - it mattered what he thought of you. And he never loved you enough to put you first and stand up to them when they made all kinds of unreasonable demands and talked badly about you.

If your BF doesn't think you are the most amazing woman who ever walked this planet, he's not marriage material. It's that simple.

Don't change your mind. Leave and don't turn back.

HappyLife21 · 29/04/2019 01:49

Wow, so he wasn’t outraged that they had done this?!

aidelmaidel · 29/04/2019 02:06

Give yourself at least a year living in a different country from him and not talking. Maybe you can be friends after that, maybe not, but you need space.

Move out. Go home if you want, if you've got a job you want to keep, stay, but move out.

Get a lot of therapy and do the freedom programme.

29 is still young. You can spend 5 years in therapy and still meet someone nice and raise a family.

1Rose19 · 29/04/2019 02:21

RUN RUN RUN LEAVE NOW!!!
They are going to scam you and leave you. End of that what asians do.
Am asian but in our country the groom side pays for the wedding and i know how other asian culture worka they make womwn aide pay then leave the women n treat them bad what you have written rings bells

WalpurgisNight · 29/04/2019 02:31

This is the best possible outcome for you OP, although you might not think it now. You would never, ever have been a team together, and that's what marriage is about.

GirlRaisedInTheSouth · 29/04/2019 02:34

They will not compromise on this and bf has said he will leave me for an arranged marriage otherwise.

Tatty-bye then. Racist, money-grabbing twats.

Seriously, you can do so much better. I have lived overseas and know loads of people in mixed marriages who are very happy and have the support of both families. Find someone else. You will never be good enough for him or his family. And depending on where you are, if you have DC and divorce, you will lose them.

AuldJosey · 29/04/2019 02:36

They sound like racist twats. Believe me, I'm older and hopefully wiser, you have NOTHING to gain from this man. Nothing.
Get home to your lovely family and forget those racist cunts.
The right fella will cross your path some day. It's not this muppet though.

TennisPlaya · 29/04/2019 05:25

Hi, I'm Asian. And I feel sorry for you, but you have to know that you have had a very lucky escape.
A guy that won't stand up for you is worth nothing. And it would only have got worse.? "they want a highly educated DL" is just one part of a statement. The 2nd half of that is "?? But she needs to be a super housewife, and take full care of their darling boy"
When you have kids, will you accept them living with you 6 months at a time and criticising you constantly, including your parenting?

Tohaveandtohold · 29/04/2019 06:20

When I read the op initially, all I thought was they are trying to get 20k from you to fund his arranged marriage. They will keep making demands till there’s one you cant meet.
Good on you op for seeing them now for who they truly are. Leave and take it one step at a time from there.

notmuchmoretogive · 29/04/2019 06:23

Well done OP. I know earlier you said you felt stupid because it was so obvious to us - please don't. You are not stupid!

Well done for having the strength to go. Come home, use some of those savings to get yourself back on track. Thanks

Figure8 · 29/04/2019 06:26

OP
Please gather your support network, and spend some time looking after yourself.

And be prepared for the " fake 180" where he promises you everything.

If he doesn't respect you now, on a day to day basis, then any " respect/love" he finds now isn't going to be real.

Stay strong- read this thread when you're feeling weak, revive it at any time, and someone will be here to encourage you.
Flowers

Durgasarrow · 29/04/2019 06:40

RUNNNNNNNN

sakurawarrior · 29/04/2019 06:41

Thank you once again everyone for so much support. I will try to respond to some of the replies.

Level75 I know that leaving him is the right thing to do - all these replies on this post and his parent's subsequent phone call have opened my eyes that I am being emotionally abused. I still don't find it easy or natural to stand up for myself, but I know I have an obligation to myself and to my own parents to do so!
Holidayshopping I'm pretty sure I will only be taken seriously after I've walked out the door and am on my way to the airport. Probably cause he knows from the previous 3 + years that I seemingly tolerate everything.
Stormei You are very lucky to have a DH that puts your relationship first! Which culture does he come from?
specterlitt Yes and yes. When I've spoken to others from his background they are not at all surprised about the parents' behaviour.
Omzlas Very fortunate to have such understanding in-laws!
5LeafClover You couldn't be more correct. He has made it clear.
babba2014 You are so right. People cling to the pathological elements of their culture even when it contradicts with the religion they are supposedly so devout to. I commend you and your family for seeing through this. We can only pray that people will continue to wake up to all these harmful practises which have no place in our modern world and cause suffering and misery.
Miljah You and so many others have pointed out that it won't end at the wedding demands, even though that now turns out to have been a sham. I think you must be right.

I called my parents last night and told them the new developments (incase you missed it- that the 20 k demand was just thrown at me because they thought me and my parents wouldn't be able to afford it, and they had no intention of welcoming me into their family). I told my parents I am done with it. They are relieved that I am sticking up for myself.

I will continue to re-read this thread if I have any wobbly moments and I will look into that freedom program because so many of you suggested it. When I put everything on paper my history is very disconcerting and it needs to be addressed, for sure.

OP posts:
MrsMozartMkII · 29/04/2019 06:52

You sound very balanced lass.

There will be wobbles, you're going into new territory, but as you say, hold onto the thread and the useful and wise words from other PP and you'll come out of this so much happier.

littlebillie · 29/04/2019 06:55

This is not a good way to start your life together

MyOtherProfile · 29/04/2019 06:59

Glad you are leaving. How easy can you go? Do you have a job to give notice on?

AlwaysCheddar · 29/04/2019 07:04

So pleased you are leaving! Don’t be scared of leaving this relationship, be scared of what would lie ahead if you stayed with him. As soon as that ring was on your finger, bam, I bet it would be crappier than crap. Get home!!

sakurawarrior · 29/04/2019 07:08

The thing that is making me feel physically ill is that he will end up in an arranged marriage a few months. I know I need to put that out of my mind but it is a truly nightmarish thing to think about. Any advice on how to deal with that?

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TheOrigRightsofwomen · 29/04/2019 07:13

Haven't read the thread, but what jumped out at me was when you said "cultural baggage". To him clearly it's not "baggage".

I don't think you are compatible.