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Forced to spend insane amount on wedding..Should I marry him? Feeling torn.

383 replies

sakurawarrior · 28/04/2019 07:50

Ok, this is going to be a long post so I need to apologise - but I want to explain as thoroughly as I can. I'm not a mum but I wanted some sensible advice.

I'm in my late twenties. Four years ago I met my bf on the internet. After a year of a long distance relationship, I emigrated to the country he was living in to be with him. I know, that sounds nuts. A huge step. Needless to say, I was infatuated with him.

My history - Before him, I had two previous relationships. The first one when I was 16. I suspect now he was personality disordered. He 10 timed me and beat the shit out of me, then impregnated a married woman 20 years older than him. Needless to say, that damaged me and it took a year or two to recover. The next relationship lasted 5 years. I left him in the end because he kept binge drinking, slapped me across the face when I asked him to do something and a few other abusive incidents (he wasn't a complete psycho like the last one but less than perfect).

So anyway, back my present bf. He is Asian and thus came with some cultural baggage. His parents live in his home country and always expected him to have an arranged marriage. After we'd been together several months he told them he met me and he wants to be with me. They were extremely upset and disapproving and came up with a whole litany of reasons why I was a bad idea - I wouldn't be understanding of their culture, I would divorce him after a couple of years, I didn't hold a masters degree, my degree subject wasn't prestigious enough, westerners have no morals or values, we wouldn't suit each other... on and on it went.

He told me that he would stay in a relationship with me as long as possible, but couldn't marry me without their approval. He said the shame his parents would face would ruin their lives and the people around them would bully them and gossip making their lives a misery. He said we could only marry with their approval. But if by the time he got to 29 years old the social pressure to marry is too great, and if they didn't accept by then he would be forced to leave me. Of course, I hated this, but I tried to understand from his perspective because I loved him so much.

Fast forward two years and they have finally accepted with a condition. The wedding has to happen according to their customs, in their home country, and me and my parents must contribute to half the costs, which would come to an insane 20 grand. They will not compromise on this and bf has said he will leave me for an arranged marriage otherwise. Me and my parents could scrape together this amount of money but it just seems so wrong to spend this much on a wedding and to be forced to, as well. bf said his parents are compromising so much as they don't want me as a DIL at all, so now me and my parents need to compromise with spending the money and doing it their way.

I'm so conflicted I feel torn up inside. I feel like I don't know what to do anymore. My dad suggested that the money should be used as a house deposit instead of a wedding, and his parents got really offended by this, saying it's not about the money but about carrying out all the customs and traditions, and spending that amount of money is the only way it can be done.
My dad also thought I should ditch him on the principle that he would ultimately leave me if things came to that. There's a part of me that feels he is right, but I also have to understand my bf and his parent's POV. Holding some many conflicting views in my mind and so many shades of grey is driving me insane, frankly.

I've been reading through some of MN posts and I see the tendency to advocate leaving the relationship rather than staying. Honestly from the start our relationship has had huge strain because of these problems and my MH has naturally taken a hit. I've seen a number of therapists even one from his background - they didn't have an answer about the culture thing but said he is bordering emotionally abusive to me. (If he is annoyed at me he tends to give me the silent treatment, not at all great and the one problem in our relationship apart from the marriage issue).

I want a fresh perspective on this all. I don't know what to do. Any advice greatly appreciated. Tysm if you made it through this post.

OP posts:
stressedoutpa · 28/04/2019 13:01

Best decision.

No consideration for you or your family's values and culture. It will only get worse when children come along.

Come home. You need to be single for a while and just spend time doing things that make you happy. Work out who you are and what you want. Healthy relationships are balanced and supportive. It's not about you bending and giving in to other people and their demands.

Good luck op.

Dillydallyingthrough · 28/04/2019 13:02

Aww OP you're not an idiot!

You've had some shit relationships, take some time to yourself and if you feel you need it do something like the freedom programme (I will be honest I haven't done it, but see it rated on here a lot).

Well done for telling him you're done, if you haven't second doubts, read this thread or continue to post for support. Good luck you sound so lovely and kind - you really deserve it Flowers

UCOinanOCG · 28/04/2019 13:04

Well that has shown you what sort of family they are. You are well out of there.

Good luck with your future. I am certain you will find someone utterly wonderful who will love you and cherish you forever.

IHateUncleJamie · 28/04/2019 13:04

@sakurawarrior For years I couldn’t even see clearly that my own mother was abusing me. Emotional abuse, coercion and control is very difficult to see for yourself precisely because the abuse isn’t 24/7.

You’ve gone from abusive relationship to abusive relationship and lost your self worth along the way. Flowers You don’t need counselling about whether this relationship is right, you know it’s not.

This man’s family is showing you that they don’t respect you and don’t want you. They sound cruel and would be nightmare in-laws. The fact that your boyfriend is under their control is never going to change. See this as a fortunate escape before you are sucked into this awful awful life.

Can you stay with your Dad? You need some calm, peace and safety in which to regroup, do the Freedom Project and work on getting your self worth and self love back. xx

madcatladyforever · 28/04/2019 13:05

Well I don't know where they come from but my mother married an Asian from a very strict family back in 1969 with me , an illegitimate child in tow, and nobody died. They marrI'd in a registry office and have been together ever since. It was a bit of a gossip point at the time as we went to live there. Step back. Your partners parents are being ridiculous and it is not about culture it is about them and their imagined social status. It is entirely up to your partner whether you two get married and how you do it and I'm afraid if he won't stand up to them then you have no future at all.

FinallyHere · 28/04/2019 13:08

Well done @sakurawarrior

https://freedomprogramme.co.uk

Hearhere · 28/04/2019 13:08

Blimey, a bullet has been dodged!

NancyJoan · 28/04/2019 13:09

Oh, OP. Well, at least you know.

His family are more important to him than you are.
That doesn't make him a bad person, but it would make him a truly shit husband.

Mix56 · 28/04/2019 13:11

Oof, lucky lucky escape.

wizzywig · 28/04/2019 13:15

sakura im sure its noones intention to upset you. Im from an asian background too. Be kind to yourself and back away from this. And steel yourself as he probably will either marry very quickly and still keep contacting you saying "i was forced to, its you i love" or remain single and still mess around with your mind. xx

RiskItBiscuit · 28/04/2019 13:15

OP it seems that you've done the right thing.
It hurts now but go and work on yourself for a while, it'll be great for you.FlowersFlowers

wizzywig · 28/04/2019 13:18

Be strong op

polkadotpixie · 28/04/2019 13:20

Run OP, while you still can

This 'test' is just another example of what shitty people they are

I'm glad you're done, please please stay done, otherwise you'll be back on here in 5 years desperate to leave but stuck because you aren't allowed to take your children out of the country. Don't condemn yourself or your future DC to a lifetime of this

Jaxhog · 28/04/2019 13:22

I'm so sorry Op, that is a pretty shit thing to do. You deserve much better than this. But at least you fouhd out now, rather than later when you've had kids with him and it's so much harder to leave.

There ARE nice men out there. I'm married to one and have at least one decent brother (who's already nabbed, unfortunately). You are still young.

Ariela · 28/04/2019 13:24

I feel sad reading your post: it's all about circumstances.

Not a word about how much you love him, how even thinking about him makes you weak at the knees, nothing about how much he loves you, let alone how he would give up his religion to marry you, and would tell his parents that they have to accept you on his terms because you are more important than to him than anything else and cannot live life without you.

Very sad for you. You deserve to be happier than this.

GreenTulips · 28/04/2019 13:26

What was his reaction

Sallycinammonbangsthedruminthe · 28/04/2019 13:31

OP If he really does want you and has any semblence of decency he will move heaven and earth to be with you...but you know deep down and we all do too that you wont ever see him again...You know what...everyone who has posted wants you to be safe,happy and loved...You are so not an idiot..C'mon OP bless you,dry your tears and realize your own self worth..you can do this...we all can;t be wrong!.Look on it as an adventure you have had but like all adventures it has to end in order for you to start a new one....you never know whats round the corner..be brave go and have a peek and see...I bet the man for you is not too far away but this one now isn;t him...

amandacarnet · 28/04/2019 13:56

OP you might find it really useful to read stories of women in abusive situations on southall black sisters website. You can also ring them from abroad, they will ring you back.
It is common for women who are being abused to have their family asked to contribute a lot to the wedding. It is also common when these demands are met for extra money and gifts to be asked for. And for that to continue after marriage too, with the threat the woman will be thrown out if her family does not stump up the cash. And depending what country you are in, being thrown out the family home, could mean losing custody of any children you have.

Yes you should leave him but I think you also need to do the women's aid freedom programme and to read more about abuse such as Lundy Bancroft book, why does he do That? That will help you to recognise other forms of abusive behaviour

magoria · 28/04/2019 13:59

The sad thing is that he thinks all this behaviour is reasonable.

He has told you himself, if (as they do) his family don't accept you, he will dump you on your arse and go meet another woman.

After wasting several years of your life.

InceyWinceyette · 28/04/2019 13:59

OP: a bullet dodged? A nuclear bomb dodged if you ask me!

Well done for telling him you are done. Excellent that you have taken back control and said no.

They are unpleasant, controlling and conniving people. Way way beyond cultural expectations as many of us in inter-cultural partnerships in this thread have demonstrated. And the worst is that he meekly let them do it. What a spineless tear he is.

Haha they are picking holes in you: how many experienced and wise MNers on this thread have been able to identify the gaping holes in their behaviour.

Hold your head high, OP, and make a plan.

Can we help?

NW2SW · 28/04/2019 14:06

Cultural differences permeate every aspect of life. They will interfere, your partner will bow to them and you'll be expected to comply.

If you can live like that, then continue. It doesn't sound like they'll ever accept you and your partners constant threats of leaving you are cowardly and subtly controlling.

Acis · 28/04/2019 14:17

He has had a call from his parents and it's come to light that the whole demanding 20,000 was a shit test

Test of their shittiness, I think, which they have failed spectacularly. If your boyfriend doesn't see that, you really have dodged a massive bullet.

user1479305498 · 28/04/2019 14:32

I lived in the West Midlands for 4 years, a lot of inter racial marrying and some real stories of co ercrd women forced to put their money into ‘family pots’ etc, and have full time jobs and expected to do all the housework as well, all whilst being ‘looked down’ on by the blokes family. Also sending money overseas constantly whilst they often struggled. I do realise not all Asian families are like this but a great many with family overseas still are believe me.

sakurawarrior · 28/04/2019 14:53

Tysm everyone I am reading every single reply. It's really helped me gain perspective.

Green tulip (I think) asked me what his response was. He was silent then he said he doesnt take me seriously and not to think about it now. He tried to cuddle me but I was firm. I said No, your parents have lied, have no integrity, are trash talking me and bullying you. I know you love them but they are just people and they are not behaving well at all. He said he couldnt argue, all that was true but he said "I cant do anything". So I said I'm completely serious, I'm leaving. He didnt say anything to me after that.

I'm just trying to gather all the courage I can.

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Level75 · 28/04/2019 15:01

How are you feeling about telling him you're leaving? Does it feel right?

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