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Dating thread 152: onwards and upwards

999 replies

30somethingandsingle · 26/03/2019 15:05

Dating thread rules:

  1. The first rule about the dating thread is you don't talk about it with people you're dating.
  2. Develop a thick skin.
  3. Do not invest emotionally too soon.
  4. It's all BS until it actually happens.
  5. Trust your gut instinct.
  6. People vanishing, lying & being generally weird is not your fault.
  7. You are the prize - they should be trying to impress you.
  8. If it's not fun, stop.
  9. Loo update is mandatory.
10. No dating the thread. 11. Do unto others as you would have them do to you.

And a reminder - you don't know them until you know them!

OP posts:
unique1986 · 27/03/2019 16:39

@LilyRose88

If you work in London could you meet someone that lives in London and then you stay half the weekend on a Friday night?
(If they are normal and have their own place)

Lovemusic33 · 27/03/2019 16:54

Lily I have dated several forces guys and ex forces, on of my best dates was with a army guy but I think he was possibly married. I like the idea of having a man that can take care of himself and I’m not too bothered if they occasionally get sent away to work. Most guys my age are coming to the end of there time in the army so it’s not as though it’s a long term thing, if I was looking to start a family I wouldn’t touch someone in the forces.

I have tried fitness singles too and had no luck.

The forces guy I am talking too is late 40’s but looks really fit 😁, I don’t mind dating older as long as they are active and look after themselves.

Eesha · 27/03/2019 17:03

@@LilyRose88 I have dated several ex forces people but my take on it is they are very strict and OCD about things and I quickly realised I'm a bit more of a free spirit. They do look after themselves though. My few seem to have control issues.....

Crustaceans · 27/03/2019 17:30

It's hilarious that everyone is personality typing themselves. Obviously no one can be defined by the letters but it is funny. I'm borderline I/ENTP-A so inventor/debater. If I were to guess at MrSG, I'd say he's the same - definitely NTP-A, and probably borderline I/E (or ambivert as online bollocks likes to call that).

@JeSuisPrest I guess there was something lurking in there under the suit and posh voice then. I would not be interested in cuckolding and totally agree that more than one penis in the room makes it a threesome (or possibly just some kind of swinging). Either way, it wouldn't be for me.

@richdeniro It sounds tricky if you almost withdraw when you actually like someone. Do you think it's some sort of misguided self-preservation thing?

I guess that remembering rule 7 is really key for you. You're interviewing them as much as they are you. So you should definitely not be trying to please them. Hopefully you can find a way to reframe the situation so that you can just go in and be yourself every time.

Crustaceans · 27/03/2019 17:45

I even tried the local Park Run and although everyone is very friendly, most of the guys I chatted to were married. I guess 9am on a Saturday morning is not really the best time to pull someone

I don't know. Some of the park runs are notorious for relationships starting (and affairs). Maybe you're going to wrong one. 😜

Had my OLD experience not been successful, I was going to join a sea kayaking club, with surf club as a back up option if sea kayaking was not promising, as a strategy. Or maybe a bouldering club (for the winter months). Because, frankly, my usual choice of pilates classes does not facilitate meeting (m)any men. Weirdly tinder came through, so I stick with the pilates classes. And my arse thanks me for it. 😆

MyOldBrainStoppedWorking · 27/03/2019 17:50

LilyRose88 I'm not sure how old you are but you sound similar to me. And having similar problems to me.
I have an active job and I'm involved in 2 very different sports. I'm not looking for someone to compete with me. But someone who doesn't think being active means getting off the sofa for another beer.

Unfortunately I only seem to attract boring men who are looking for a woman to entertain them. Or the ones with big beer guts.

richdeniro · 27/03/2019 17:54

@Lily I've got a few family members who are ex-forces. They all seem to be constantly getting married and divorced for various reasons. Can definitely echo Eesha's comment about them being strict and ocd.... they're very regimented.... up at the crack of dawn and that type of thing. Some have pretty right-wing views too.

My cousin is my age and already going through his third divorce. He served on the front line in Afghanistan though and has probably seen some horrendous things, definitely suffering some form of ptsd. At Christmas he literally just broke down in front of everyone for no reason.

30somethingandsingle · 27/03/2019 18:18

I think I am also going to come off all the sites, I'm just not really feeling it, it's not enjoyable particularly. I am on several sites, I seem to attract either married men, men with kinks beyond my wants, or just people I have no connection/anything in common.

I'm not even sure what I want, the earlier comments about being emotionally unavailable and hurt causing hurt has resonated a little... maybe that's me? I am over my exH now- well and truly, but maybe I am not over the hurt and impact he had on my life? How do you know when the time is right to move on? The thought of starting a new relationship (rather than fwb) makes me feel...ugh, I'm not sure I can face getting to know someone well enough to be truly comfortable with/combine lives.

I think maybe I should stick with Mr Guns as I enjoy his company, we have a lot in common and he treats me with respect and of course the sex is good.

OP posts:
Ant330 · 27/03/2019 18:38

30 reading your whole post, MrGuns sounds ideal for where you are currently and how close you want to be to someone or actually how close you want them to get to you.

richdeniro · 27/03/2019 18:41

@30something Would you consider some form of therapy? Time off definitely helps too, I found it did me the world of good and gets you out of the habit of going on dates almost as if they are a hobby if that makes sense and not an enjoyable hobby at that, the impact on self esteem soon takes its toll I think even with the mindset of it being fun. I think a lot of the time we forget to realise that any form of dating involves other human beings and all the complications that go with them so emotions are going to be all over the place, you're going to have triggers that you probably aren't even aware of.

It's the hurt and the impact that you are probably not over as you said. I don't know if we can ever get over that to be honest but you can manage it and work through it so that you'll feel better about it and in turn about yourself. You'll then feel ready to be with someone who deserves you and put boundaries in place to stop those that don't.

Crustaceans · 27/03/2019 18:42

The thought of starting a new relationship (rather than fwb) makes me feel...ugh, I'm not sure I can face getting to know someone well enough to be truly comfortable with/combine lives.

I think this is a pretty conclusive sign that you are not ‘ready’ for another relationship. Although, I think, ready is never the right word in this context.

You can be over your ex but not in a place where you want to have a relationship. That is often completely reasonable. I think a lot of the women on this thread have at some point said that they don’t feel they want to combine lives and live with a man again. Given the complexity of doing do, I think they’re probably being very sensible.

And I think a lot of women are looking for a different kind of thing. They don’t want a husband/non-married-husband-equivalent (which many of us have experienced as an additional child that you cannot discipline) but they’d like to date someone in the time that they don’t have their children. They’re not looking for a stepfather. That also seems totally sensible.

It’s hard though because that probably doesn’t fit with what a lot of men are looking for. Or, even where it does, the mismatch in time with the kids (a standard EOW and day in the week arrangement gives very different non-kids time to men and women) can be difficult.

I do think that there are ongoing changes to how people post-failed relationships are looking at dating and relationships. Especially those with children and/or a bit older. But it’s all quite ambiguous at the moment because the standard options of the past look less appealing but there are no simple off-the-shelf alternatives.

unique1986 · 27/03/2019 19:02

I think maybe I should stick with Mr Guns as I enjoy his company, we have a lot in common and he treats me with respect and of course the sex is good.

Sounds like a new relationship?

supercali77 · 27/03/2019 19:14

unique sounds good to me!

Lovemusic33 · 27/03/2019 19:15

Well the guy I was talking to in the forces has vanished off POF, not showing up on my messages, does that mean I have been blocked? This is the 2nd one in a week and both were forces men.

unique1986 · 27/03/2019 19:28

Was trying to quote @30something

30somethingandsingle · 27/03/2019 19:31

I'm not sure I am the type of person to seek out therapy, I wouldn't rule it out, just not sure it would help at this stage.

I will have fun with Mr Guns and see how I feel about things after a break from OLD.

@unique1986 - not a relationship, he is a previous FWB and that's all it will be this time too. Although he is just my type in every sense, we worked really well like this last time so I wouldn't want to ruin that.

OP posts:
unique1986 · 27/03/2019 19:33

Hi how are You?
Fine thanks You?
Tired but alright
Off tomorrow and prob Saturday
How's work?
Ok just on lunch
ME So Saturday prob be better to meet.
HIM Suppose
Unless you wanna meet both days?
Nah I'll deffo be resting tomorrow

Erm ok did I mis read what he meant?

Marlboroandmalbec34 · 27/03/2019 19:37

unique had you previously been discussing a days to meet?. Without context I would have read his message as just telling you he was off work-so you might have jumped the gun. sorry

unique1986 · 27/03/2019 19:46

Yes I might have just assumed he was telling me for that reason as we haven't been in contact for few days as he was busy working and other stuff apparently.
But I'm not going to continue small talk.

RollsEyes · 27/03/2019 20:05

@unique1986 , not exactly bantersaurus Rex, is he? I couldn't be bothered with that kind of boring chat anyway if it makes you feel any better!

leonasa · 27/03/2019 20:20

"Bantersaurous Rex"😂😂 love it

@30somethingandsingle I agree it sounds like you are perhaps not ready. After my ex (who I did marry, albeit very briefly and then left as he was a bit abusive) and then another quite intense then painful thing shortly after, I was basically traumatized I think, over the men but just in no place to date at all. I spent quite a while staying away from men completely, just thinking of dating literally made me recoil, and for the first time probably in my life had a relationship with myself, as naff as that sounds.

That said, the OLD can be just really disheartening and quite harmful to your self esteem as @richdeniro says. Sounds like a break at least would do you good!

I am going to go out with Mr Tall on Friday and then have a break if nothing comes of that I think.

@Crustaceans your post is very interesting, I am 37 and want a kid so slightly different situation but I agree with you about a lot of women wanting something different these days. I do think there are men out there too looking for the same and relationships come in all forms, more and more. Tbh I'm looking into going it alone with the kid thing anyway, as a lot of women inc my friends say a partner often doesn't make it easier! ☺️ have decided today I'm at least going to have a fertility consultation which will help me know what I'm dealing with and (if they say I've got time) at least take the pressure off a bit..

Peanuthedz · 27/03/2019 20:29

@unique1986 was it you saying you were bored of small talk? That talk is soooo small. And why tell you when he's off if he's not telling you he's available?

CodLiverOil556 · 27/03/2019 20:31

Date with MrChef was excellent. He was a bit late so thought I'd been stood up but he arrived and suddenly an hour had gone and I had to go back to work...had a very snog in the car park. Fanny gallops it was...

Peanuthedz · 27/03/2019 20:32

@leonasa yes don't leave it any later. And if you really want a baby don't wait for Mr Right to come and help you. My relationship with my STBXH was ok til I had a child. I had loads of fertility treatment. It's ok.

Peanuthedz · 27/03/2019 20:39

I haven't been ready for a relationship. I waited about 9 months after ex moved out to start dating. And I think probably I messed people around as I wasn't really emotionally available. I think you're right @30somethingandsingle about being over the person but not over the relationship, mine was so shit for years and I was so miserable. I'm so happy to be single I'm very wary of getting into something. I suspect that's why I've fallen so hard for Mr Unsuitable. It can't go anywhere. So I can try it all out again. And when he dumps me I'm hoping I'll be ready for a relationship. I mean it would be great if this could be one.... but I don't see how it can really.

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