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He’s left me after 32 years

238 replies

Shylawyer · 01/02/2019 13:38

Long time lurker. I’ve been with the same man for 32 years, married for 19 of them. We have two grown up children (22 and 18). Last night, out of the blue, he left me. He says he’s still in love with me but feels that I’m just in love with the idea of him, but not the actual him and he can’t accept that situation. I have no idea what he’s talking about. Admittedly, we don’t do a lot together these days, and our sex life hasn’t been great for years. I’m not really that interested any more but I never really have been. He's known that from the outset, and if it is about the lack of sex, it’s the first time he’s said anything about it in three decades!

On my side, I feel left out of his life. He spends hours with the children playing in bands, going to their gigs, and messing about in the music room he built with them (he’s from a musical family and the children have inherited it). They (and their friends) waste hours in there playing guitars, drums, singing - it’s an endless racket. They constantly embarrass me by giving me a tambourine or some other foolish thing to make a noise with. I feel that they’re just laughing at me.

If they’re not in there, they’re messing about with old cars. He has always had an interest in fixing and restoring them and the children have been dragooned into helping. They all waste even more time fooling about with an old convertible and a horrible old 4x4. Very often, I sit in the house alone watching television while they’re outside in all weathers. They think it’s hysterical when one of these old wrecks breaks down and one or other of them has to be rescued by the others. I find this really embarrassing rather than funny. I can’t understand why they are so blasé about it.

If I can finally get him to spend time indoors with me, I have to share him with his mobile phone. He is passionate about politics and is constantly posting on forums about homelessness, the state of the NHS, Brexit, education - you name it. He’s a very liberal person and he always has some worthy cause or other to get excited about. Radio 4 is never off. Again, I have no interest in any of this and his constant pestering to get me into conversations that can turn into serious debates is quite tiring.

He is a partner in a large accountancy firm and we don’t have any money worries that could cause this behaviour. I’m a solicitor so have a demanding job myself. My career is very important to me and I work long hours but when I get home, he will not leave me alone. He is constantly fussing around me, wanting to talk - and when I’m cooking, he is constantly putting his arms around me, or kissing my neck until I have to shoo him away. He tries to help but he’s pretty clueless in the kitchen and I can’t keep things on time if he’s under my feet. So I shoo him out of the kitchen and then he sulks for hours and spoils the meal.

He says the straw that broke the camel’s back for him was my refusal to fly away to our friends’ place in Italy over the Christmas holidays. He had (once again) organised it as a surprise when he knows I hate that sort of thing. I like time to plan and prepare - not just jump on a plane and head off. He’s done it so many times and I’ve always made it clear I won’t play along with his half-arsed arrangements. But still he does it! It’s maddening.

We have a lovely home, a good life and he is throwing it all away for no reason that I can understand. I don’t know what to do. We’ve been together since I was a teenager and he was just 21. How can he say that it’s my fault that I’m not in love with him and he can’t live a lie? I do love him. He claims he needs me to love him the way that he loves me and in his opinion, I don’t. He’s acting like a lovestruck teenager. I feel that I’ve more than demonstrated my love for him by putting up with living with a man who acts like an overgrown child for all these years. How can I talk sense into him? I’m at my wits end.

OP posts:
WeMarchOn · 01/02/2019 19:34

@Babdoc funnily enough I thought it's him that could be Autistic

Gina2012 · 01/02/2019 19:41

Is this a reverse?

Or a newspaper thread?

If it's for real then I understand completely why he's left you OP

You want totally different things to him

Totally different

You and your DH are absolutely and utterly incompatible imo

Make a quiet happy non passionate life just for you , OP , and allow DH to find someone new who is suited to him

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe2726 · 01/02/2019 19:50

'Non-passionate'? People are passionate but not always about the same things. Still, something else to lob about, isn't it?

I don't find loud-mouths passionate particularly, just loud and unable to listen to other people because they're so busy being passionate and loving the never-ending braying of their own voices.

OP and her husband have had a long marriage so regardless of where it currently is, show some respect, it wasn't a 'flash in the pan' and deriding it is just showing posters up for what they are.

user1479305498 · 01/02/2019 19:56

OP, without being horrible, there are plenty of dull sensible guys who just want to watch TV out there, I think it might suit you better. I think it’s unfair to say you sound joyless because it just sounds like your interests aren’t his and you resent feeling ‘made’ to join in them. I think you will probably meet someone like yourself easily and then find them pretty joyless and dull, I kid you not

Flowershower · 01/02/2019 19:58

Oh OP I feel really sorry for you. Your husband sounds like for him life is a performance and the world and everyone in it are his audience. I’m guessing you’re expected to listen in awe at his fascinating insights into everything and anything. He sounds absolutely exhausting. I don’t buy the ‘he was just trying to do something nice’ re the holiday either - after so long together he KNEW you’d not like a surprise, and anyone with an ounce of consideration would have planned it together. I think you’ll be better off apart. Your lives together haven’t been a waste - there must have been good times as well, and you have twin lovely sounding DC, but maybe now is the time for you to do what YOU want to do.

Palaver1 · 01/02/2019 20:03

Your answers in your post
You really have to read it back to yourself
I really hope its not to late to make a go off it but if you dont want him let him go

Anonanonanariston · 01/02/2019 20:04

Sorry OP, I read your updates after your first post. I get why you would be annoyed with him. They would also irritate me (endless analysing, putting you down for your reading choices etc. Not the music and car tinkering - those seem great bonding hobbies as he shares them with the kids) But - the things that annoy you, you admit you found attractive initially. All he's done is just... not change. And that has worn you down. And he has noticed this. You are both sucking the joy out of each other! I think you will both be much happier, eventually, apart. I hope you're OK.

oiiiiiii · 01/02/2019 20:13

All I want is someone who isn’t full on 100% of the time

This is wonderful news for you then op. He's setting you free to be with someone who you feel comfortable with!!

Yes you are in shock, change is very difficult espeically when you're someone who hates surprises and disorder and intensity. But - you will process the shock and very shortly you'll see the amazing favour he has done you.

I am more like your dh than you - but I can see where you are coming from. And really, you don't like the man! So embrace this change.

SuziQ10 · 01/02/2019 20:19

He sounds great!! You've clearly been overlooking what a fab hubby you had there. Hope that you find a way to stay friends.

Worrynot1 · 01/02/2019 20:27

Sounds like a great bloke, music cars and involved with his kids.

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe2726 · 01/02/2019 20:37

To many of the posters here, if and when your relationships end, that you post here hoping for sympathy and a bit of kindness... that you run into posters just like you. You'll fully deserve that.

I can't believe this is the 'relationships' board, this thread is just a dive to the bottom.

Commonwasher · 01/02/2019 20:47

It sounds like you are complete opposite personalities which makes falling in love easy but living together another matter entirely. I’m very introvert and i’m married someone who could not be more extrovert. Married life is a negociation. If either of us falls into the pit of thinking ‘why doesn’t he/she think like me?’ Everything goes downhill. i travel in silence if I have the choice, he talks non stop and listens to wall-to-wall news. We joke that if I married somone as introvert as me, we’d never speak and if he married his matching personality they would fight continually. Most human beings seek out somw degree of opposite in a life partner - maybe to cover each other’s blind spots, maybe it’s inherent in us - but if we choose a total polar opposite it’s hard work. I don’t think you sound joyless or loveless as others have said. I think you sound worn down and misunderstood. I can vouch for it both being worth it and also v hard work living with your opposite and appreciating the differences. Myers Briggs was our turning point, you could look at 16 personalities online. Good luck OP and I hope you can either work it out or find happiness in another direction.

Patchworkpatty · 01/02/2019 20:52

Why do you want to remain married to someone who annoys you so much.
Is it just fear of being alone . ?

It sounds to me that you will have a much happier life not sharing it with someone with whom you have nothing in common except your past life.

I would seek counselling by myself, OP. Find out what would make you happy.
Do you really want to spend another 20/30 yrs with car repairs and constant analyse of every thing you do. ? I think he's radio 4 listening , political discussions and 'passionate' behaviour sound right up my street but if it were constant Radio1 , obsessive sport and monosyllabic grunting (all of which wind me off the clock) I would be thrilled at the prospect of life without it.

You are scared of change OP not of DH going. I promise you, this time next year you will be much much happier. But this bit is horrid.

Variousartists · 01/02/2019 20:54

I don’t think posters have said anything that awful. I agree that the op sounds like she dislikes him.

JennyHolzersGhost · 01/02/2019 21:00

Oh god OP, I know exactly the kind of man you mean. He would test my patience too. I know what it’s like to have a stressful job and want to have some peace and calm and tranquility at home.

Honestly, although it may not feel like it right now, I think that actually splitting up is for the best. He enervates you. I know there’s a lot about divorce and being alone which is incredibly scary but you sound like a strong woman and I think that actually having a place of your own and the space to figure out the next stage in your life could be incredibly fulfilling.

Give it a try. Start a new thread for support.

AnneLovesGilbert · 01/02/2019 21:15

You write about him with contempt and that’s the ultimate death knell. You’ll hopefully be happier apart.

There’s no reason for your children to take sides. They’re adults. They can have their own relationships with each of you, apart. It doesn’t sound like it’s been a happy home for a long time.

Iflyaway · 01/02/2019 21:27

why do you want to stay married to him?

We’ve been together since I was a teenager

And there you have it.

OP....You have never developed a sense of self.

OP, it's really not as scary as you think, going through life as a free spirit.

Now you have the time to pursue your inner self which is a more laid-back type.

Or who knows? Being thrown into singledom after all these years you may find things you love to do that you never had a chance to, bringing up children etc.

For what it is worth, your husband sounds dynamic and engaged in life but it can be full on for an introvert.

Personally, I would hate someone wanting an onslaught of cuddles and kisses while I'm cooking.... I don't care what you are doing... PAY MEE ATTENTION!!

ichoochoochooseu · 01/02/2019 21:40

He sounds exhausting and chaotic.

Op have you considered that maybe there is a better partner out there for you, and he has done you a favour?

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beachyhead · 01/02/2019 22:05

On my side, I feel left out of his life.....

I think that's it, he's just gone off and done things his way for all those years and taken the children with him and now you are left wondering what to do....

I understand that Thanks

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe2726 · 01/02/2019 22:24

wherearemymarbles, what a twattish post.

Paddy1234 · 01/02/2019 22:27

I also just read that post.

What has mumsnet come to.

Paddy1234 · 01/02/2019 22:34

One of our friends was married with two boys and every weekend took them windsurfing/boys night out/music and completely alienated the wife.

Only after it ended could you see what unhealthy atmosphere that he generated - but outwardly he seemed perfect. He could and never saw anything wrong in what he did just saw himself as the perfect father.

I can't even socialise with him now as I find him covertly controlling every social situation - it's me me me

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe2726 · 01/02/2019 22:41

I know the 'type', Paddy1234, takes 'performance parenting' to a whole new level.

OP sounds so resigned and deflated and when I read her post, I wondered if she ever felt 'ganged up on'. No decent husband (or wife) would allow that to happen.

Scott72 · 01/02/2019 22:47

Paddy I don't get the impression OP's husband is covertly controlling at all. Was he supposed to completely quash his hobbies and interests and personality to try and keep her happy? Going by her description he's tried to meet her halfway by going on long quiet walks etc. but fundamentally they are just incompatible.

"One of our friends was married with two boys and every weekend took them windsurfing/boys night out/music and completely alienated the wife."

That sounds like those boys had a great childhood! What was he supposed to do, just stay home in front of the telly every weekend to keep her happy?

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