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He’s left me after 32 years

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Shylawyer · 01/02/2019 13:38

Long time lurker. I’ve been with the same man for 32 years, married for 19 of them. We have two grown up children (22 and 18). Last night, out of the blue, he left me. He says he’s still in love with me but feels that I’m just in love with the idea of him, but not the actual him and he can’t accept that situation. I have no idea what he’s talking about. Admittedly, we don’t do a lot together these days, and our sex life hasn’t been great for years. I’m not really that interested any more but I never really have been. He's known that from the outset, and if it is about the lack of sex, it’s the first time he’s said anything about it in three decades!

On my side, I feel left out of his life. He spends hours with the children playing in bands, going to their gigs, and messing about in the music room he built with them (he’s from a musical family and the children have inherited it). They (and their friends) waste hours in there playing guitars, drums, singing - it’s an endless racket. They constantly embarrass me by giving me a tambourine or some other foolish thing to make a noise with. I feel that they’re just laughing at me.

If they’re not in there, they’re messing about with old cars. He has always had an interest in fixing and restoring them and the children have been dragooned into helping. They all waste even more time fooling about with an old convertible and a horrible old 4x4. Very often, I sit in the house alone watching television while they’re outside in all weathers. They think it’s hysterical when one of these old wrecks breaks down and one or other of them has to be rescued by the others. I find this really embarrassing rather than funny. I can’t understand why they are so blasé about it.

If I can finally get him to spend time indoors with me, I have to share him with his mobile phone. He is passionate about politics and is constantly posting on forums about homelessness, the state of the NHS, Brexit, education - you name it. He’s a very liberal person and he always has some worthy cause or other to get excited about. Radio 4 is never off. Again, I have no interest in any of this and his constant pestering to get me into conversations that can turn into serious debates is quite tiring.

He is a partner in a large accountancy firm and we don’t have any money worries that could cause this behaviour. I’m a solicitor so have a demanding job myself. My career is very important to me and I work long hours but when I get home, he will not leave me alone. He is constantly fussing around me, wanting to talk - and when I’m cooking, he is constantly putting his arms around me, or kissing my neck until I have to shoo him away. He tries to help but he’s pretty clueless in the kitchen and I can’t keep things on time if he’s under my feet. So I shoo him out of the kitchen and then he sulks for hours and spoils the meal.

He says the straw that broke the camel’s back for him was my refusal to fly away to our friends’ place in Italy over the Christmas holidays. He had (once again) organised it as a surprise when he knows I hate that sort of thing. I like time to plan and prepare - not just jump on a plane and head off. He’s done it so many times and I’ve always made it clear I won’t play along with his half-arsed arrangements. But still he does it! It’s maddening.

We have a lovely home, a good life and he is throwing it all away for no reason that I can understand. I don’t know what to do. We’ve been together since I was a teenager and he was just 21. How can he say that it’s my fault that I’m not in love with him and he can’t live a lie? I do love him. He claims he needs me to love him the way that he loves me and in his opinion, I don’t. He’s acting like a lovestruck teenager. I feel that I’ve more than demonstrated my love for him by putting up with living with a man who acts like an overgrown child for all these years. How can I talk sense into him? I’m at my wits end.

OP posts:
Bluntness100 · 01/02/2019 18:18

The kids are 22 and 18. So I'm guessing the last one about to leave home for uni,

IroningMan · 01/02/2019 18:19

To be honest the main fact of it is that you've always been different and long term it's just too different.

It sounds like he's never going to be the quiet, reflective person you probably are better suited too. Likewise you're never going to be the loud, opinionated, 100 miles an hour person he's probably better suited to.

It is sad but honestly I hope and think you can both find happiness elsewhere.

Paddy1234 · 01/02/2019 18:21

I think you sound like a lovely lady but just completely incompatible with her husband.
You could be talking about a friend of mine but they have been married for far less years.

Good luck and think of all that freedom to walk round galleries, listen to radio 4 uninterrupted.

I get completely where you are coming from

Big hugs X

Giesabreak · 01/02/2019 18:22

Oops, it was in the very first post. I hate posters like me Grin

Cookmysock1 · 01/02/2019 18:22

Poor man, I hope he finds some happiness

Paddy1234 · 01/02/2019 18:23

God you lot are absolutely horrible

SabineUndine · 01/02/2019 18:27

I'm wondering what you do for fun, OP. When do you let your hair down and have a laugh. Can your kids join in with that? I just get the feeling you are very serious. Do you ever do silly thing just for the hell of it?

Bluntness100 · 01/02/2019 18:28

Oops, it was in the very first post. I hate posters like me

I did it earlier too, I just assumed young adults as they drove, then realised it was in the op, 🤣

Op, have you now got an empty nest, as in did your youngest leave for uni? You talk about them as if they both live at home though?

EvaHarknessRose · 01/02/2019 18:31

I’m sorry you have had such a shock. It’s not a waste if you separate - you still laughed, raised children together and created a shared life. It’s just time to create the next bit with more quietness, less irritations, more doing what you want to do and more being included when you do things with your children, who sound like they love you both very much and can help you move forward from here. I wish you well in everything you do. Be kind to youself, and I think although he will soon realise what he has lost, (and the dc will start to see his weak spots), that he has probably done you a favour that will free you up to live a better later life than the one you had ahead of you.

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe2726 · 01/02/2019 18:32

Lovely post, Eva

Ginger1982 · 01/02/2019 18:34

I'm not surprised he left! You've made no effort to get involved with him and the kids for years, you don't want to talk to him, you don't want him to touch you...what is he supposed to do? 🙄

Anonanonanariston · 01/02/2019 18:34

I haven't read other's responses. I'm sorry this has happened to you. Truthfully, you sound pretty incompatible. You don't seem to have anything in common. You are quite scathing in the way you speak of him and his passions and seem to resent that the children share them and their fun together. I don't want to be mean but you sound like a bit of a joy-killer to him, very serious and irritated by the little things that make him happy. I can see how he would interpret all your negative attitudes towards him and his interests and desires as being a lack of love. I would call it a lack of understanding, mutual interest and, well, respect really. You don't really respect him, do you? Again, I'm sorry for you it's come to this, you are the way you are and can't force enjoyment in the same things, but I get what he did and think he was right to do it.

HollowTalk · 01/02/2019 18:39

Your updates do make your husband sound a bit of a pain - it's all very well being spontaneous but if you ignore all the jobs to be done, then it's the other partner who has to cope with that. I didn't like the sound of his temper, either. You didn't mention that at first and I wonder why you missed it out.

You do sound very different. You've been together an awful long time and maybe you have just grown apart. He seems to irritate you a lot and some time without him might make you think about the sort of life you want to live, rather than just going on with the life you were having. I think it would be a relief for you to be alone for a while.

Beamur · 01/02/2019 18:47

OP, I haven't rtft. But this sounds like a classic case of growing apart.
Take time to grieve the end of your relationship, try not to apportion blame and move on with dignity.

SevenStones · 01/02/2019 18:48

I just wanted normal for 60% of the time, not eccentric for 100% of the time.

Well then , you're incompatible, and calling it a day is a kindness to you both.

God I am so jealous- I would love a man like this.

Maybe not Brexit, but I'd love to meet someone I could have two-hour long intense conversations about something we're passionate about, over a meal.

WineGummyBear · 01/02/2019 18:51

OP I can see that most of these responses may be quite upsetting for you.

Realistically, it sounds like you will both be happier separated. You describe life with him as living with a grown up man child.

There's no right or wrong way to be and living with someone that we are not compatible with would make anyone unhappy and it really does sound like you have both been very unhappy for a long time.

The future can be brighter for both of you.

whatdoesthismean2019 · 01/02/2019 18:53

OP. You don’t sound happy with him, I wonder if, looking back this will be a blessing in disguise?

Inforthelonghaul · 01/02/2019 18:56

Two sides to every story and all that but you have my sympathy. It must be devastating after 32 years with the same partner to know that you have to make a new future on your own. You will be in shock for a while, you may find that others aren’t as surprised as you are. Whatever happens be kind to yourself and take each day as it comesFlowers.

winecigsandchoc · 01/02/2019 19:00

Reverse? Confused

Hen2018 · 01/02/2019 19:00

I used to love helping my dad tinker with cars and tractors. :-(

My mum did her own thing. I hope she never sat there thinking we were wasting our time.

SevenStones · 01/02/2019 19:06

I want to watch it without it being discussed as if we were the Guardian tv critics. Same with films. Same with the theatre. We never seem to be able to enjoy these things in the moment. He has to dissect and critique them all the time.

I like dissecting and critiquing. For me it's half the enjoyment.

My enthusiasm can be completely crushed at times when I'm excited and interested in something, and someone stamps on that by telling me to just "enjoy it" and not analyse all the time. Analysng is fun! In fact, lots of times it's more fun analysiing something than the actual thing itself is!

I say this just to put across the other side of the experience, and how it feels for someone who does like to analyse being brushed off all the time.

Nether is wrong or right, it's just incompatibility that he's decided to do something about because he doesn't want to keep living the way you have been doing all these years. he's not going to change his personality to suit you, just as you're not going to change yours to suit him.

I suspect the timing is down to the children being adults now.

Teddyduchamp · 01/02/2019 19:11

What do you like about him? You seem shocked he has left but seem like you weren't happy anyway

Bluesmartiesarebest · 01/02/2019 19:18

Op, you’re getting a hard time but I get it. My ex was a similar type of character and I found him exhausting to be with. He enjoyed discussing, debating and arguing about every single thing. After we separated several friends said I looked worn down being with him.

I met a lovely man some years later who is much calmer, kinder and gentler. We are happy to sit in silence watching a film without a whole discussion afterwards. I never feel bullied into going on trips or outings because DH always asks me first and doesn’t get cross if I say no to something.

Honestly you are both miserable in the marriage but you sound like you will be fine on your own and be able to move forward in the future. Good luck!

GoodbyePiccadilly · 01/02/2019 19:22

Endings are also beginnings (sorry that's so cliche) and this could be an opportunity to look at your life. Take time for yourself. Find things that you enjoy that you can do with your children without your husband dominating everything. He sounds exhausting. Perhaps cooking? There are partners out there who will be happy to chat and not just rant on about worthy issues. New people to meet. New experiences to have. Smile

Bluntness100 · 01/02/2019 19:30

Maybe not Brexit, but I'd love to meet someone I could have two-hour long intense conversations about something we're passionate about, over a meal

Yes me too, I don't want to be one of these couples you see. Sitting in silence, staring stoned faced ahead, I get some people like that, the op, I guess for one. But it's not for me.

So I also can understand how the husband might struggle with someone who wishes silence, who doesn't wish to join in, who feels embarrassed by a car breaking down, or shaking a tambourine, and who not only doesn't wish sex, who also rejects any physical affection, who it's more important to get the dinner right to, than it is to make it together.

So I think there really is two sides to this, thr op is not wrong for what she is like, but her husband is not wrong either.

I also suspect the ages of the children are relevant here and he's thrown himself into the kids and bided his time.

I also suspect the op will be better on her own. She can meet someone she is more compatible with, and a,so have her quiet time.

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