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He’s left me after 32 years

238 replies

Shylawyer · 01/02/2019 13:38

Long time lurker. I’ve been with the same man for 32 years, married for 19 of them. We have two grown up children (22 and 18). Last night, out of the blue, he left me. He says he’s still in love with me but feels that I’m just in love with the idea of him, but not the actual him and he can’t accept that situation. I have no idea what he’s talking about. Admittedly, we don’t do a lot together these days, and our sex life hasn’t been great for years. I’m not really that interested any more but I never really have been. He's known that from the outset, and if it is about the lack of sex, it’s the first time he’s said anything about it in three decades!

On my side, I feel left out of his life. He spends hours with the children playing in bands, going to their gigs, and messing about in the music room he built with them (he’s from a musical family and the children have inherited it). They (and their friends) waste hours in there playing guitars, drums, singing - it’s an endless racket. They constantly embarrass me by giving me a tambourine or some other foolish thing to make a noise with. I feel that they’re just laughing at me.

If they’re not in there, they’re messing about with old cars. He has always had an interest in fixing and restoring them and the children have been dragooned into helping. They all waste even more time fooling about with an old convertible and a horrible old 4x4. Very often, I sit in the house alone watching television while they’re outside in all weathers. They think it’s hysterical when one of these old wrecks breaks down and one or other of them has to be rescued by the others. I find this really embarrassing rather than funny. I can’t understand why they are so blasé about it.

If I can finally get him to spend time indoors with me, I have to share him with his mobile phone. He is passionate about politics and is constantly posting on forums about homelessness, the state of the NHS, Brexit, education - you name it. He’s a very liberal person and he always has some worthy cause or other to get excited about. Radio 4 is never off. Again, I have no interest in any of this and his constant pestering to get me into conversations that can turn into serious debates is quite tiring.

He is a partner in a large accountancy firm and we don’t have any money worries that could cause this behaviour. I’m a solicitor so have a demanding job myself. My career is very important to me and I work long hours but when I get home, he will not leave me alone. He is constantly fussing around me, wanting to talk - and when I’m cooking, he is constantly putting his arms around me, or kissing my neck until I have to shoo him away. He tries to help but he’s pretty clueless in the kitchen and I can’t keep things on time if he’s under my feet. So I shoo him out of the kitchen and then he sulks for hours and spoils the meal.

He says the straw that broke the camel’s back for him was my refusal to fly away to our friends’ place in Italy over the Christmas holidays. He had (once again) organised it as a surprise when he knows I hate that sort of thing. I like time to plan and prepare - not just jump on a plane and head off. He’s done it so many times and I’ve always made it clear I won’t play along with his half-arsed arrangements. But still he does it! It’s maddening.

We have a lovely home, a good life and he is throwing it all away for no reason that I can understand. I don’t know what to do. We’ve been together since I was a teenager and he was just 21. How can he say that it’s my fault that I’m not in love with him and he can’t live a lie? I do love him. He claims he needs me to love him the way that he loves me and in his opinion, I don’t. He’s acting like a lovestruck teenager. I feel that I’ve more than demonstrated my love for him by putting up with living with a man who acts like an overgrown child for all these years. How can I talk sense into him? I’m at my wits end.

OP posts:
Shylawyer · 01/02/2019 14:02

I find it really difficult to talk to him about these things. He’s always talking. I can’t get him to shut up. Every conversation we have is very intense. He gets so passionate about - well - everything! I feel like there’s never any small talk. I dread him being in the room when the news comes on. He has an opinion on everything.

I don’t know what sort of a man I would want other than him. He’s all I know! I like to cook. And go for walks but he spoils those by talking all the time. I don’t want to sound uninterested in him but he is very intense these days and I find it all a bit stressful. He once teased me because we travelled to London in the car (about 4 hours) and he deliberately didn’t speak at all to see when I did. He started laughing when I hadn’t spoken for two hours. He said he thought we would have been at Charing Cross without speaking if he hadn’t broken the silence. And he says that I don’t love him. I think that sort of childish behaviour shows that he hasn't got much love and respect for me either.

OP posts:
SwordofGryffindor · 01/02/2019 14:02

Sounds like he made the decision to get an extremely toxic wife / mother out of his and his kids lives.

SweetLathyrus · 01/02/2019 14:03

I'm sorry, OP, but I have to agree with lots of PPs. You refer to him and the children 'wasting time' when they have really productive and creative hobbies. You complain he leaves you alone in the house, but then say that when he is inside he won't leave you alone. He sounds engaged with the world whilst you don't describe anything you are interested in except working.

Honestly, the way you have described him, if I didn't love my own politically engaged, music loving, R4 listening, DH so much, I'd be passing him my number.

TakeMeToKernow · 01/02/2019 14:03
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cheercaptain · 01/02/2019 14:05

OP, wow. I feel sorry for you, not becasue your husband has left you but because you do not fully grasp why. Just read your post and reflect on your own words and perhaps it will become clear to you why this has happened to you.

BettySwollocksandaCrustyRack · 01/02/2019 14:05

I'm surprised you've lased 32 years to be honest, you sound like a complete fun sponge. You hate everything he is interested in, see it as an insult when the poor guy tries to get you to join in. what are your interests? I feel for him, you don't sound much fun at all. Shooing him away when he tries to be affectionate, poor poor man

DarklyDreamingDexter · 01/02/2019 14:06

Gosh, I totally see why he's left you if things are the way you describe. You seem to have absolutely nothing in common and however hard he tries to get you involved with his interests and hobbies - and those of your children - your reaction is simply to feel embarrassed. You shoo him away when he tries to show affection, refuse to get involved if he plans anything fun and spontaneous. I'm only surprised that he hasn't left sooner quite frankly. What a miserable existence. If you want to save this marriage you are going to have to rethink your entire relationship. But if that's not what you want, why should you? Perhaps better to let him go and find someone to share the joys in life with. You can then maybe find someone who likes whatever it is you like.

loveliesbleeding1 · 01/02/2019 14:07

I feel sorry for your Dh to be honest.You want him to pay you some attention but when he books a holiday for you both it’s not right,can he do ANYTHING right in your eyes?
If you are really honest with yourself are you just fearful of a future on your own without your marriage as a security blanket?

TakeMeToKernow · 01/02/2019 14:08

I appreciate that it must be a pretty daunting time if you’ve never known any different, but by the sounds of it, I think you’ve got a happier future ahead of you, OP Flowers

Take this chance and, for want of a better phrase, get started with the “conscious uncoupling”. If you love him, let him go to find someone who will match his intensity, and likewise you can find someone who you can rub along with on a much more chilled level. You both deserve a better companion in life.

BettySwollocksandaCrustyRack · 01/02/2019 14:09

2 hours in the car and you hadn't uttered a word. Your last post makes you sound even worse. He is definitely doing the right thing by calling it a day, I hope he sticks to his guns.

Karigan195 · 01/02/2019 14:11

Actually I rather see his point. You don’t do things with him, you reject his surprise, you hold yourself separate calling it foolish when he tries to get you to join in.

He sounds like quite a nice man with interesting hobbies, good with the kids and fun.

You’re coming across as a bit of a spoilsport and it rather sounds like you’ve pushed/driven him away. Seriously reread your post about the things you’ve done. Not talking to him for 2 hrs! Why? Why would anybody treat someone they claim to love like that.

juneau · 01/02/2019 14:11

Please read your post back OP. You sound utterly contemptuous about your family, moan that your DH doesn't 'spend time indoors with you', that you sit on your own watching TV while they all do stuff together - tbh I'm not in the least bit surprised that your DH has left. You have nothing in common! You don't even want to have sex with him! His hobbies bore and irritate you, his passions aren't yours - you absolutely don't have 'a lovely time', you sound like you're living totally separate lives and want completely different things. I suspect he'd like to be with someone who is passionate about politics, music, old cars and spontaneous travel and you want what? Someone who'll sit on the sofa with you inside? I dunno. But I'm afraid I don't blame him one bit for leaving and I'm amazed he's stuck with you for 32 years.

SpiritedLondon · 01/02/2019 14:11

I’m sorry about this but you seem to suck the joy out of everything. You’re dismissive of everything he and your children are interested in. Why is that? What should he be doing? You don’t have to do the same things but you could at least appreciate that he’s a father who is engaged with the children and enjoys spending time with them. You describe yourself as serious about your job but presumably he is too....he’s not exactly small-time is he? And finally no physical affection from you? I’m amazed he’s stuck around for as long as he has ( I suspect that’s more to do with the children ).

mummmy2017 · 01/02/2019 14:11

Two hours. Yeah my teenagers does that when in a strop.
How come your needs come first?

DreamsofJacaranda · 01/02/2019 14:13

You sound like an absolute killjoy. My DH is a bit like you.

I wish we could swap husbands, yours sounds lovely.

Perhaps time alone will enable you to step back a bit and see more clearly what you actually want in a relationship. Maybe you’ll be happier alone.

glitterbiscuits · 01/02/2019 14:13

OP- what do you like or love about him?
What attracted you to him in the first place?
What were your early years together like?

Blooto · 01/02/2019 14:13

Ignoring the fact that you don't seem to like him as an intimate partner, you sound pretty boring to have even as a platonic friend. It must have been torturous for such a dynamic fellow to live with you for so long. Its a miracle he wasn't dragged into depression along the way!

Gettingbackonmyfeet · 01/02/2019 14:14

I'm sorry OP but wow you really do t sou d remotely self aware

You come across as Incredibly judgemental and controlling

You are more concerned about "being embarrased" than about people around you enjoying their lives ,for me it is far more childish to be so concerned about appearances and embrrasment than to appreciate your family taking pleasure in something

You want to make small talk and sit and watch tv ? Fine if that's the case but you don't get to nullify those who wish to do more or different

People don't fit into your cardboard cut out plans because you decided that's what they should do...why on earth do you want this marriage to continue?

WhoKnewBeefStew · 01/02/2019 14:14

OP you say you have a wonderful life, but your posts paint a very different picture. It sounds like you are both very mis matched.

I think once you get over the shock and your head around it all, you may see this as a blessing in disguise

ChrisPrattsFace · 01/02/2019 14:15

My and my DH always comment when we’re out for dinner, about those couples who are sat together and never speak! It sounds like you want to be one of those and your DH doesn’t.
He wants to interact, I’m not surprised he has left!
You sound like you hate him, he sounds lovely.

mummmy2017 · 01/02/2019 14:15

My wife hates the children's hobbies.
She hides in the house and tells us to leave her alone
I try booking holidays, talking to her, physical affection.
All she wants to do is be alone, no talking .
If we walk into a room laughing , she scowles at such , and wants us too shut up.
We drove two hours the other day .. no one spoke.
If we go for a walk it has to be in total silence.
I try to comment on things, but I think she just wants me too shut up.

DuffBeer · 01/02/2019 14:15

I also think that he sounds great!

You sound like a bit of a misery I'm afraid.

mansneverhot · 01/02/2019 14:18

It sounds like you really don't like him, let alone love him. Nothing you're complaining about is actually negative, he's passionate, affectionate, wants to talk to you, spend time with your children, is proactive... I will admit I have a poor view of a lot of men but yours sounds like one of the good ones. I think some time apart and for you to have a long think about what truly upsets you about him will be enlightening. Perhaps with all his interests and hobbies you feel devoid of energy for your own and you might find that in rediscovering yourself that the two of you simply aren't compatible anymore.

BookwormMe2 · 01/02/2019 14:18

I feel that I’ve more than demonstrated my love for him by putting up with living with a man who acts like an overgrown child for all these years.

You sound like you don't even like him, let alone love him, and reading your other post it doesn't seem like you have any respect for who he is as a person and what his interests are.

punishmepunisher · 01/02/2019 14:18

I'm afraid it does sound like you've driven him away and he wants more from life.

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