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He’s left me after 32 years

238 replies

Shylawyer · 01/02/2019 13:38

Long time lurker. I’ve been with the same man for 32 years, married for 19 of them. We have two grown up children (22 and 18). Last night, out of the blue, he left me. He says he’s still in love with me but feels that I’m just in love with the idea of him, but not the actual him and he can’t accept that situation. I have no idea what he’s talking about. Admittedly, we don’t do a lot together these days, and our sex life hasn’t been great for years. I’m not really that interested any more but I never really have been. He's known that from the outset, and if it is about the lack of sex, it’s the first time he’s said anything about it in three decades!

On my side, I feel left out of his life. He spends hours with the children playing in bands, going to their gigs, and messing about in the music room he built with them (he’s from a musical family and the children have inherited it). They (and their friends) waste hours in there playing guitars, drums, singing - it’s an endless racket. They constantly embarrass me by giving me a tambourine or some other foolish thing to make a noise with. I feel that they’re just laughing at me.

If they’re not in there, they’re messing about with old cars. He has always had an interest in fixing and restoring them and the children have been dragooned into helping. They all waste even more time fooling about with an old convertible and a horrible old 4x4. Very often, I sit in the house alone watching television while they’re outside in all weathers. They think it’s hysterical when one of these old wrecks breaks down and one or other of them has to be rescued by the others. I find this really embarrassing rather than funny. I can’t understand why they are so blasé about it.

If I can finally get him to spend time indoors with me, I have to share him with his mobile phone. He is passionate about politics and is constantly posting on forums about homelessness, the state of the NHS, Brexit, education - you name it. He’s a very liberal person and he always has some worthy cause or other to get excited about. Radio 4 is never off. Again, I have no interest in any of this and his constant pestering to get me into conversations that can turn into serious debates is quite tiring.

He is a partner in a large accountancy firm and we don’t have any money worries that could cause this behaviour. I’m a solicitor so have a demanding job myself. My career is very important to me and I work long hours but when I get home, he will not leave me alone. He is constantly fussing around me, wanting to talk - and when I’m cooking, he is constantly putting his arms around me, or kissing my neck until I have to shoo him away. He tries to help but he’s pretty clueless in the kitchen and I can’t keep things on time if he’s under my feet. So I shoo him out of the kitchen and then he sulks for hours and spoils the meal.

He says the straw that broke the camel’s back for him was my refusal to fly away to our friends’ place in Italy over the Christmas holidays. He had (once again) organised it as a surprise when he knows I hate that sort of thing. I like time to plan and prepare - not just jump on a plane and head off. He’s done it so many times and I’ve always made it clear I won’t play along with his half-arsed arrangements. But still he does it! It’s maddening.

We have a lovely home, a good life and he is throwing it all away for no reason that I can understand. I don’t know what to do. We’ve been together since I was a teenager and he was just 21. How can he say that it’s my fault that I’m not in love with him and he can’t live a lie? I do love him. He claims he needs me to love him the way that he loves me and in his opinion, I don’t. He’s acting like a lovestruck teenager. I feel that I’ve more than demonstrated my love for him by putting up with living with a man who acts like an overgrown child for all these years. How can I talk sense into him? I’m at my wits end.

OP posts:
BookwormMe2 · 01/02/2019 14:43

Million dollar question, OP: why do you want to stay married to him?

2019willbegreat · 01/02/2019 14:44

He sounds great!! I have finally called time on my marriage partly due to my H having no gumption about him and wanting us to be like 80 year olds......your DH sounds like the kind of man I wish my H was like.

jinglet · 01/02/2019 14:46

You are more concerned about "being embarrased" than about people around you enjoying their lives ,for me it is far more childish to be so concerned about appearances and embrrasment than to appreciate your family taking pleasure in something

This!!!

Time to see a therapist OP. You seriously come across as a killjoy, whinge bag. Your husband just cannot do anything to please you, despite him doing backflips of the highest order in an attempt to woo you. I'll say it again: your husband has done the right thing. He needs to move on with his life and grow. You on the other hand, need to really reflect on who you are and what role you've played in all of this.

Chamomileteaplease · 01/02/2019 14:47

You've given an awful lot of details - very outing.

LuckyLou7 · 01/02/2019 14:48

Are you the husband with the dull, disinterested wife? You've done right to end the marriage. You sound interesting, funny and passionate about life.

SusieOwl4 · 01/02/2019 14:50

In all of your posts you have not actually said how you feel , deep down, how do you feel? Because there is your answer about whether you love him and he is the one in the wrong , or whether you have just been accepting of a less than perfect life as has he , and in fact he is right to go ?

Lottapianos · 01/02/2019 14:51

You sound utterly miserable OP, and I mean that kindly. My partner is a noisy chatty type who has to have the radio on all the sodding time, and I get how irritating that can be. You sound like you really can't stand him though, almost like he makes your skin crawl, yet you want him to sit and watch telly with you in silence every evening. You sound like my mother - joyless, bitter, angry, paranoid and lonely to your bones. I feel very sad for you.

Honestly, what do you think about people's suggestion to see a therapist? I was in therapy myself for several years and it was the best thing I have ever done for myself

TwoGinScentedTears · 01/02/2019 14:52

I read it as a reverse too.

But from your posts I see that you don't like his hobbies, you don't like to talk to him, you don't like it when he touches you, you don't like sex with him, you're embarrassed by him, you don't like his world views, you don't like his romantic gestures.

Is there anything you do like?

TheGoddessFrigg · 01/02/2019 14:53

Someone who doesn’t view meals out in a restaurant as a good opportunity to discuss Brexit for two hours

God I am so jealous- I would love a man like this.

TwoGinScentedTears · 01/02/2019 14:53

Also, marriages are partnerships. They can be fun, lots of fun. Do you ever have fun? Together or separately?

harriethoyle · 01/02/2019 14:54

You sound absolutely ghastly. No wonder the poor chap's decided enough is enough!

Crazyfrog007 · 01/02/2019 14:54

You genuinely sound like you really dislike him, and your children for that matter.

I'm really sorry you're hurting but maybe you need to start acknowledging your complete disinterest in him and anything that interests him, and then maybe you'll have something to work on.

Raspberry88 · 01/02/2019 14:55

I agree this must be a reverse. Otherwise the lack of self awareness is incredible. Poor guy, and poor kids. Stood out to me that you said that the kids have been great OP, maybe they've been expecting it. They must have picked up on the atmosphere.

user1494670108 · 01/02/2019 14:55

I think this must be a reverse. If not then OP you should take some time to really think about how to feel rather than just wanting what you're used to and what your setup looks like from the outside.
You sound incompatible and I think the previous replies although they must be hard to read, are entirely fair. What's in it for him at present?

Dvg · 01/02/2019 14:58

i agree with the others , this sounds like a you problem and you sound utterly boring :S his conversational skills are just obviously clashing with yours and your interested in different things, that in itself is a reason too split.

Also sounds like you only want him because its easy, he earns good money.. you have a house... and have been together for along time but not once have you said a reason to love him. I think you want the ease of it but it doesnt sound like you really want him that much

ElspethFlashman · 01/02/2019 15:01

This is suuuuch a reverse.

And if this is the husband writing it, then he hates her as much as she hates him.

juneau · 01/02/2019 15:04

If this isn't a reverse I wonder if the OP might be autistic?

The lack of self-awareness in a grown adult is quite mind-boggling, plus the lack of real care or concern. He's all you've ever known, but that doesn't mean he has to stay with you when you're so mean to him and give him nothing that he actually needs or wants in a relationship.

BookwormMe2 · 01/02/2019 15:05

If it is the reverse and it is the husband writing this, ElspethFlashman, then maybe he should stop to consider why his wife is so clearly desperately unhappy in their marriage. It might not be for the reasons he assumes.

DBML · 01/02/2019 15:12

This has to be a joke?

over50andfab · 01/02/2019 15:13

Has to be a reverse - no one would paint themselves in such a negative light. The use of the word waste twice - as in seeing it as a waste of time when a parent spends what sounds like enjoyable and interesting time with their DC.

This all sounds to me like it’s how the DH perceives his DW as seeing things (in rather an extreme fashion) and wants to know if he is doing the right thing - therefore trying to put it from the female perspective.

Sorry - just too OTT OP

Sallygoroundthemoon · 01/02/2019 15:16

Surely a reverse? He sounds great and is doing the right thing. He's better off without you OP and I would definitely suggest counselling for you to help work through why you are like this.

wotsittoyou · 01/02/2019 15:18

I like some peace and quiet, but your dh still sounds great to me. You say he involves the children in his hobbies, doesn't this give you time to yourself? Why don't you spend time with friends on your own during this time? Honestly, I'm imagining shooing my own dh away when he's excited about something (and he has adhd, so I think I understand a little); he'd be so hurt.

SunburstsOrMarbleHalls · 01/02/2019 15:23

You sound deeply unhappy with your husband.

Your husband sounds deeply unhappy with you.

Separation is the logical solution. It is pointless to want to stay in a relationship where there is no shared interests, an imbalance of need for physical intimacy, no demonstrable love and a complete ambivalence to your partners feelings.

The positive thing is that your partner has stated that he still loves you, perhaps with counselling individually and as a couple there may be some hope of reconciliation but this will require a great amount of effort, self awareness, compromise and understanding from you both. Being scared of being alone is not a good reason to carry on the relationship if you are unable to genuinely commit to finding a middle ground that brings you both happiness.

It is not unreasonable to not want petrol, oil and car parts in your house but it is also not unreasonable to want a loving physical relationship with your partner either.

SuperSuperSuper · 01/02/2019 15:24

I think that you'll both be happier apart and that your children probably recognise this and therefore aren't surprised/upset by the separation.

I'm not going to criticise you, I'll just wish you luck. You may decide to remain single or you may find someone who is ideal for you. Either way, you'll enjoy your life more. Don't make the divorce harder for you both than it needs to be - amicable, accepting and efficient is the way forward.

RomanyRoots · 01/02/2019 15:24

This sounds like a loveless marriage, held together for the sake of the kids, for the most part.
It's ok to have different hobbies and interests to your spouse, you aren't joined at the hip.
I'm also sure they gave you a tambourine to include you, not to mock you.
I think you should seek some counselling.