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He’s left me after 32 years

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Shylawyer · 01/02/2019 13:38

Long time lurker. I’ve been with the same man for 32 years, married for 19 of them. We have two grown up children (22 and 18). Last night, out of the blue, he left me. He says he’s still in love with me but feels that I’m just in love with the idea of him, but not the actual him and he can’t accept that situation. I have no idea what he’s talking about. Admittedly, we don’t do a lot together these days, and our sex life hasn’t been great for years. I’m not really that interested any more but I never really have been. He's known that from the outset, and if it is about the lack of sex, it’s the first time he’s said anything about it in three decades!

On my side, I feel left out of his life. He spends hours with the children playing in bands, going to their gigs, and messing about in the music room he built with them (he’s from a musical family and the children have inherited it). They (and their friends) waste hours in there playing guitars, drums, singing - it’s an endless racket. They constantly embarrass me by giving me a tambourine or some other foolish thing to make a noise with. I feel that they’re just laughing at me.

If they’re not in there, they’re messing about with old cars. He has always had an interest in fixing and restoring them and the children have been dragooned into helping. They all waste even more time fooling about with an old convertible and a horrible old 4x4. Very often, I sit in the house alone watching television while they’re outside in all weathers. They think it’s hysterical when one of these old wrecks breaks down and one or other of them has to be rescued by the others. I find this really embarrassing rather than funny. I can’t understand why they are so blasé about it.

If I can finally get him to spend time indoors with me, I have to share him with his mobile phone. He is passionate about politics and is constantly posting on forums about homelessness, the state of the NHS, Brexit, education - you name it. He’s a very liberal person and he always has some worthy cause or other to get excited about. Radio 4 is never off. Again, I have no interest in any of this and his constant pestering to get me into conversations that can turn into serious debates is quite tiring.

He is a partner in a large accountancy firm and we don’t have any money worries that could cause this behaviour. I’m a solicitor so have a demanding job myself. My career is very important to me and I work long hours but when I get home, he will not leave me alone. He is constantly fussing around me, wanting to talk - and when I’m cooking, he is constantly putting his arms around me, or kissing my neck until I have to shoo him away. He tries to help but he’s pretty clueless in the kitchen and I can’t keep things on time if he’s under my feet. So I shoo him out of the kitchen and then he sulks for hours and spoils the meal.

He says the straw that broke the camel’s back for him was my refusal to fly away to our friends’ place in Italy over the Christmas holidays. He had (once again) organised it as a surprise when he knows I hate that sort of thing. I like time to plan and prepare - not just jump on a plane and head off. He’s done it so many times and I’ve always made it clear I won’t play along with his half-arsed arrangements. But still he does it! It’s maddening.

We have a lovely home, a good life and he is throwing it all away for no reason that I can understand. I don’t know what to do. We’ve been together since I was a teenager and he was just 21. How can he say that it’s my fault that I’m not in love with him and he can’t live a lie? I do love him. He claims he needs me to love him the way that he loves me and in his opinion, I don’t. He’s acting like a lovestruck teenager. I feel that I’ve more than demonstrated my love for him by putting up with living with a man who acts like an overgrown child for all these years. How can I talk sense into him? I’m at my wits end.

OP posts:
Shylawyer · 01/02/2019 14:18

I’m a bit shocked by most of your replies tbh. We have always been quite different people. I thought that we had got to a point where we accepted each other for who we are. He has decided that he can’t accept me. Bit upset to be described as toxic as well. All I want is someone who isn’t full on 100% of the time. Someone who doesn’t view meals out in a restaurant as a good opportunity to discuss Brexit for two hours.

I am hurt and surprised so perhaps over reacting. The kids have been great - they haven’t taken sides either way. I need to think about what comes next. I suppose I should be grateful they’re grown up and financially I can look after myself. Our time together seems like such a waste for both of us if it ends like this.

OP posts:
PaleRider1 · 01/02/2019 14:18

I'm surprised that your husband hasn't left you before now tbh.

You sound totally disengaged in him, your children and your family life. He really can't do right for doing wrong can he?

You want him to come inside and spend time with you, but then say he irritates you, talks to you, shows affection and you end up telling him to clear off?

Ever wondered WHY he spends so much time with the children or tinkering outside?

Sounds like you checked out of this marriage way before be decided to.

punishmepunisher · 01/02/2019 14:19

But why stay together if you are both unhappy with each other?

Enigmam · 01/02/2019 14:19

This is so sad. Reading the first few lines I thought here we go, another DH rewriting history and blaming his DW for why he was leaving, but that's not the case.

It doesn't sound like you even like him let alone love him! I think you need to have some counselling to get to the route of why you don't want to interact with your husband or your children.

It's sounds like they are having a great time, engaging with each other and sharing hobbies. Why do you choose to separate yourself from them?

Annasgirl · 01/02/2019 14:20

Wow how did he last 32 years???? I often see couples like you and I always wonder how they stick it out, is it for the kids? Is it fear of being alone? You sound as if you would be happier alone and hopefully he will find someone who appreciates him. He has probably realised he has only a short time on this earth and he doesn't want to waste another minute of it on you.

Sorry if I sound harsh but I came on here expecting some poor woman who was abandoned out of the blue for another woman, I never expected to feel sorry for the DH.

Offside · 01/02/2019 14:21

OP, it appears that what everyone has said and continues to say has gone way over your head, you haven’t responded nor acknowledged anything.

Is this a reverse?

fluffiphlox · 01/02/2019 14:24

I don’t often say this about marriages but: ‘poor bloke’ is what comes to mind.

Diamondlight · 01/02/2019 14:24

You sound very miserable. You have a husband who spends time with their children and you write about it like it's a bad thing?
They gave you a tambourine and you think they are laughing at you? Sounds like they are trying to include you, and maybe you should try and laugh with them once an a while. He planned a surprise trip away and you grumped about it rather than be grateful? Read your post back. I can only see one person who is at fault from what you have written.

Miane · 01/02/2019 14:24

I’m sorry you are hurting. But in summary:

You find your DH and DC’s perfectly normal hobbies embarrassing.

You complain he’s never in the house.

Paradoxically you complain that when he walks into a room you wish he’d leave you alone/stop talking/not touch you.

You aren’t really interested in talking to him at all.

Basically you want him to sit in silence in the house but not in the same room as you and not to be using his phone.

You aren’t interested in his hobbies, his views or any physical affection.

He’s miserable and you don’t sound very happy but you don’t want life to change?

SunburstsOrMarbleHalls · 01/02/2019 14:24

Ok assuming this is not a reverse I think it does sound as if you have grown apart and have no shared interests at all.

It appears that your DC and DH have very similar interests but you have described there love of making/playing music as a "endless racket" and then say you are embarrassed if they try to include you. You also describe their love of mechanics and cars in a negative way and again mention how it embarrasses you. You also say you have no interest in your DH's political beliefs/opinions and do not like to be drawn in to tiring discussion about this.

Your DH tried to surprise you with a trip away to Italy and was rebuffed - if you don't like surprises and are not an impulsive person I can totally understand this but maybe your DH was trying to arrange something nice for you both but sadly got it wrong. You describe his attempt as "half arsed arrangements" so I would imagine that he felt quite dejected by your response.

You do not like it if your DH tries to talk to you while cooking or tries to initiate any physical contact. That can be lonely and soul destroying for a partner who wants to have a healthy physical relationship. I know you have said that you have always had a low libido but would you say it has worsened recently? If so it may possibly be hormonal/menopausal and discussing this with a health professional may be beneficial to you.

You also sound as if you feel a bit isolated and lonely too, do you have hobbies or things that you enjoy doing independently or with friends while your DH is indulging in his passions.

You say that you love your husband but in what way do you show him this? Sometimes we all need a small demonstration of love and kindness just to remind us that we are valued. You cannot always have things on your own terms in a partnership and it does sound as if you do not like to compromise. Other than your shared history together what actually bonds you together as a couple?

juneau · 01/02/2019 14:25

Can you not see though OP that your constantly pushing him away doesn't demonstrate how much you love him? You seem to think that because you've always been like this (a bit cold, by the sounds of it, not chatty, not interested in any kind of physical intimacy), that he should just get over it and accept you and live out the rest of his life with you, because you've been together all this time? That's really not how it works unless you're with someone who is either very religious or very dutiful. Most people, if put down and pushed away enough, will get the message and they will leave. I'm stunned that his gregarious, affectionate and passionate man has managed to stay with someone who comes across as an utterly cold fish, but I guess he wanted to try and make it work. Your refusal to meet him halfway though, to sit in silence when you know he loves to talk, to refuse to engage with him or any of this passions, has clearly sucked out whatever life your relationship may once have had.

Tawdrylocalbrouhaha · 01/02/2019 14:25

Assuming this is not a reverse (which I still feel it should be), you sound very ill suited to one another. I understand that to a low key person who craves peace, living with a bouncy, noisy, hyper enthusiastic human Labrador could be difficult but then...why do you want him to stay?

And, what are you into apart from being indoors, tv and silent walks? Would you really mind being single?

Blooto · 01/02/2019 14:26

"I thought that we had got to a point where we accepted each other for who we are"
This is the problem. You thought he should have accepted how abysmally you treat him (and be happy about it), yet it's obvious you never came close to accepting him as he is.
A relationship is two sided but you appear to have expected him to do all the heavy lifting.

SunburstsOrMarbleHalls · 01/02/2019 14:27

*their

TabbyCat44 · 01/02/2019 14:30

Blimey, I don't blame him. I'm amazed he's stayed this long!

Fiona0x · 01/02/2019 14:31

Are you trolling OP? Hmm if not, I think you need to see a therapist as you seem very closed off and self absorbed. Wow.

Bluntness100 · 01/02/2019 14:31

We have a lovely home, a good life and he is throwing it all away for no reason that I can understand

Can you really not? You wish to stay together simply for the lifestyle. You're not just disinterested in your family, you're embarrassed by them, I too am surprised he has lasted this long. It must be very hard for him to be constantly rejected in this manner and to be expected to stay for the house and financial benefits.

ShesABelter · 01/02/2019 14:32

Is this a reverse?

NottingPhil · 01/02/2019 14:33

It doesn’t seem like you love this man at all. I don’t see why you hate that he and your children have hobbies, why can’t you join them?

BookwormMe2 · 01/02/2019 14:34

I thought that we had got to a point where we accepted each other for who we are.

Read your posts back. Do you really think you've accepted him for who he is? I say this with kindness though, because clearly you are very distressed right now. But, as other PP have said, maybe your marriage ending is for the best.

ElonMask · 01/02/2019 14:35

I can't believe this is genuine.

jinglet · 01/02/2019 14:35

He's doing the right thing. You sound like a highly strung, and dare I said it, boring person. I wish him the best of luck for the future and hope he finds someone who enjoys being spoilt by him. Your lucky DC- he sounds like he's invested a lot of time and energy on them and is now reaping the rewards of that.

CookPassBabtridge · 01/02/2019 14:36

It does sound like a reverse.. You've listed all the ways you are different and can't stand him and then wonder why he doesn't want to be with you.

Shylawyer · 01/02/2019 14:41

Lol at human Labrador - that’s exactly what he is. I am afraid to be alone. I don’t have many close friends of my own that aren’t in couples that are friends with us as a couple but I don’t expect that is too unusual.

I’m not (I hope) as bad as I seem to have painted myself but the surprise trips away that have been “organised” by DH have often neglected making arrangements for the children - he’s often forgotten that they need sorting out especially when they were younger.

And the car maintenance often involved the house stinking of petrol for days, oil on the carpets, car parts in the dishwasher(!) etc. And the regular breakdowns meant being stranded at the roadside for hours at a time. I just wanted normal for 60% of the time, not eccentric for 100% of the time.

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pudding21 · 01/02/2019 14:43

I think the first line of "I've been with the same man" is very telling. Not my husband and I, or my DP and I. With the "same man". He sounds lovely to be honest, interested in his kids, active, has lots of interests. Fair enough if you are not interested in the same things, but he sounds like a great father and he sounds like he adores you. I appreciate that one post cannot reflect the state of your marriage but you don't say anything remotely warm about him.

You don't sound like you love him, you sound like you despise and tolerate him, I feel for your husband and it sounds like maybe he just wants to feel loved.

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