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Dating thread 145: new year new adventures

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Notcoolmum · 12/01/2019 09:17

apparentlyacatch I’m sorry to be such a mum but please don’t invite men round to your house in the first date. You are putting yourself in a v vulnerable position. These men are strangers and you know nothing more about them than what they have chosen to tell you.

He now knows where you live, what possessions you have, seen pictures of your kids, your car, where you put your keys etc.

So 3rd date tonight with Mr S and we are totally DTD! Excited and nervous!!

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supercali77 · 23/01/2019 05:59

Guys I have just had the most demoralizing experience. On sat night went to see someone I'd slept with before. I invited him to mine for dinner but He said go to his. Fine. He's a good cook. He asked me to wear stockings. I obliged. It was a fun night. Though I took the stockings off as we were chatting because they felt weird outside of the bedroom context. He drove me home next day. I said I could get a cab but he insisted. Texted that night. All pleasant. 2 days later. This morning to be precise....at 730?! He texted to say he regretted not dtd when I had the stockings on for those 5 mins. I thought be was being playful. So I replied that delayed gratification can be good. E.g. maybe another time. But He didn't play along. He peppered his reply with hahas but it basically said I got everything I wanted and all he got was 5 mins of stockings. Er....ignorning everything else? So I said I'd be sure to write a poem about the tragedy. Eye roll. And he comes back with ... he can't wait to see it ...will it include ( then lists the things he did for me including food and drinks). Eh? I bought the damn stockings. I paid for the cab over. What the hell is this all about? I was worried he was going to ramp up to calling me a user?? or some shit so I again just diffused withn humour but I have been awake all night bloody fuming. He's basically got up early to paint a picture of me as an underperforming hooker who got paid in port and cheese and this morning I'm going to drag his arse for it. And what do you know...same guy insists he's a feminist. I'd laugh if I wasn't so goddamn tired .

WarIsPeace · 23/01/2019 06:27

Urgh supercali what a prick he sounds. So you obliged his request as far as felt comfortable for you, spent the night, and he's whinging?

There's plenty of men who would be much more appreciative of your willing company in similar circumstances, what a toad.

And yy of course he's a feminist that's why he wanted you to wear stockings for him, to empower you and not for his titillation. Don't get me wrong, mutually agreeable titillation is A-ok, but really.

supercali77 · 23/01/2019 06:38

War is peace. Precisely. Fucking fuck. I'm furious! I was happy to wear for mutual. In fact if he'd asked in the bedroom and not while we were sitting chatting about flipping brexit....fine. I'm not wholly sure this is about the stockings. We texted perfectly fine on Sunday night. No texts Monday and then he launches this early Tues. Unless he's been mulling. Considering what he was due. Twat. I haven't slept a wink I am honestly that incensed

MyOldBrainStoppedWorking · 23/01/2019 06:47

supercali I had to read your post twice to try and work out what his problem is. And I still don't know.
He's a twat. But it also sounds like something else is going on with him. He's making a big deal over nothing.

WarIsPeace · 23/01/2019 06:59

I'm a feminist too.
I would happily wear things for my partners enjoyment if I was comfortable and if his enjoyment was a turn on for me.

But obligation? Nothing less sexy.

Imho he's setting you up to fail, something to criticise later. Seems a bit gaslighty to me

supercali77 · 23/01/2019 07:09

I sent it. He read it immediately. The script is. He was just teasing guys. And it's hard to know how sensitive someone is over text. Etc etx. He never means to hurt anyone! He's sorry. Some compliments. He wanted to see me again. He genuinely didn't mean it. Then he starts trying to dissect what I've written but he's forgetful. I know I offered him lunch. I'm not replying obviously. If he was teasing well. It fell in totally the wrong way for me. And if he wasn't well sod him

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Notcoolmum · 23/01/2019 07:56

supercali it doesn’t sound like teasing. He sounds like a twat.

Can anyone advise on multiple dating? I am starting to feel out of my depth. I’ve been dating Mr London since October. No talk about exclusivity and we have seen each other about 7x. I really fell for him after an amazing date abroad, literally one of the best experiences of my life. But I’ve never got the impression he felt it for me so I kept my options open.

Then I met Mr Scouser. And he is caring and attentive and I feel relaxed. He’s told me he’s deleted his tinder but not asked me about what I’m doing. I think I like him. But I’m scared if catching feelings and getting hurt.

Should I carry on seeing them both. Stick with Mr distant or risk the feelings...?

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Leatherandsilk · 23/01/2019 08:03

Super what a wanker!

Shjt I’m sorry, that’s really horrible when it’s someone you thought you knew Sad

Not hmmm for me I think that would have reached a point I could not be dating both to be honest. Not sure what others think. But then I feel guilty talking to more than one!

I sent a message saying it wasn’t for me to the iron just now, unmatched and blocked, now I feel like a bitch. But I can’t handle any response even if it’s nice. How cowardly?
Although at least I didn’t ghost like many others have to me??

DogDayMorning · 23/01/2019 08:06

notcool this is where it gets really tricky. I don’t know what the answer is for you, but I was in the same dilemma early in the New Year. I felt strongly that 2019 was not going to involve multidating so I had to make a decision. I ditched the distant guy because his emotional distance didn’t make me feel good, even though so many other things about him did. I stuck with the warmer guy because he has never made me feel anything less than good about myself (and he lets me know I make him feel good too). So I feel vulnerable now and I’m taking a big risk, but nothing ventured, nothing gained.

Notcoolmum · 23/01/2019 08:10

Eek dogday that sounds very familiar. How are things going?

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DogDayMorning · 23/01/2019 08:16

not they seem to be going well in terms of both feeling good. I can’t say any more than that really, there is no label, no ‘what is this?’ chat, just feeling our way. Keep finding new things we are totally on the same page about, but there are a couple of elephants in the room so who knows what will happen

DogDayMorning · 23/01/2019 08:18

Should have added not that I’m a risk-seeker. Might not recommend this path to everyone

BatshitCrazyWoman · 23/01/2019 08:30

Super you've dodged a bullet - what an idiot he was. Didn't like being called on it either whicb is a red flag in itself.

Shit that's .... shit. But you've said your piece, you can only hope he'll take it on board.

not I'm okay with multi dating as long as everyone involved seems to be. No help, I know ...!

wishywashy6 · 23/01/2019 08:45

@WarIsPeace Tell you what, these older men don't invite you for Netflix and chill. I like that.
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By older I just mean my own age and up as opposed to youngsters.*

I love Netflix and chill Grin

Crustaceans · 23/01/2019 09:25

Talk about difficult, this dating lark is like Rubik’s Cube!

That is a good analogy. Except that with rubik’s Cube you can buy a book that tells you how to actually do it. 😆

Dating is just bloody hard and it is about figuring out what you want as you go along - and in relation to who you meet. And hoping that they’re figuring things out in the same direction as you.

I love a bit of Netflix and chill too. But more once it’s a ‘thing’ rather than in the figuring out period.

@DogDayMorning The feeling vulnerable, and allowing yourself to be, is really hard. Or, at least, I find that tough. I’m one of those stupidly independent types generally, and I have come out of a terrible relationship, so it’s not something that I found easy. But, there’s no way to avoid it; you can’t actually form a meaningful relationship without opening yourself up to someone else and that necessarily makes you vulnerable.

Maybe that kind of thing translates as ‘emotionally unavailable’ in some instances. Or it might feel like it to someone where you just don’t have enough of that elusive ‘spark’ (whatever it is) or the possibility of ‘catching feelings’ to make you feel able to open up like that.

I guess in the rubik’s cube metaphor, it’s about getting one side totally right so you start to tackle the other sides. Because when you start doing that it does mess up your nicely finished side in the process and you have to trust that it’ll all come together. And then, once you’ve got the ‘top’ and ‘sides’ done, you need to tackle the bottom, which is even harder. But if you don’t feel that you’re getting the top done, you just can’t even begin to think about tackling the rest of the puzzle.

Leatherandsilk · 23/01/2019 09:33

My iron I was meeting Monday, has gone quiet, now has been unwell and is busy now Monday.

God it’s all so predictable, thing is you get so used to being someone’s voice on the line, you aren’t even surprised that no one ever meets. Tried not to come across as cynical in my response but it’s hard.

supercali77 · 23/01/2019 09:40

Thanks everyone. I've decided to work from home. This really got me in the feels. I'm not sure if I believe whether he was joking but after a previous guys called me a whore and user on Friday for politely declining a date I thought....is this guy flipping serious? Is this his way of saying he doesn't approve that I didn't wear the stockings. And whatever. Anyway. I did reply. Said...its not any of that (whatever shit he was talking). You were implying you didn't get what you want as if I owe you something which is crass and objectifying. So he says he knows he wholeheartedly apologises. He doesn't ever want to do that to someone again. I say...ok. thabks for the apology. Good luck. Guess what he comes back with....dont go getting in touch with me in 6 months wanting to use me for sex again......its meant to be a joke but I want to punch my arm through my phone screen. Blue ticked. Onwards!

shitwithsugaron · 23/01/2019 09:42

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Chocolate123 · 23/01/2019 09:43

@supercali77 you are well rid delete and block what an idiot

DogDayMorning · 23/01/2019 09:44

Yup crustacean. And I've never come anywhere close to solving a Rubik's cube, so I'm keeping hope alive but expectations low!

DogDayMorning · 23/01/2019 09:49

supercali he's never going to get it, is he? That weird idea of treating other people with respect? He sounds all over the place in every way, move on.

BeyondShattered · 23/01/2019 10:03

Forgot to say, I saw ms pixie yesterday. Not in like a date sense or anything - she had to pick up something from my street and I saw her drive past! So I at least know she is a real person now Grin

Leatherandsilk · 23/01/2019 10:06

Beyond why didn’t she stop and meet you?!

By the way did you say earlier you went to someone’s flat for a first date? I don’t get how that’s safe...

Ant330 · 23/01/2019 10:23

Quick question about everybody's expectations for people's online presence...
I'm not a big user of social media, I use Twitter and LI for work but that's it. I don't use FB, IG etc and I wonder whether it's something I need to work on before I get out in the dating world again?
When you see somebody you like on one of the OLD sites, or once you start texting or chatting, do you then look at their social media profiles? Would a lack of any put you off? Or do you not look because that would be considered stalking?
I'm reminded of an advert, was it Maltesers, where a girl is panicking that her date has no online presence and must therefore be a freak Smile

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