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Messages between DH and ex - don't know what to think

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Worriedandveryconfused · 02/01/2019 09:39

I’ve NC’d for this but I’m a longstanding poster. I don’t know if I’m BU or what to do next. Apologies if this gets long but I don’t want to be accused of drip feeding.

Background: DH & I married 10 years, 1 DD. We married when I found out I was pregnant. I’d have liked more DCs, DH didn’t so DD is an only. DH has an ex who is his “one who got away”. They were together through university and broke up through circumstances rather than any issues or mismatch. I struggled with this at first, eg DH kept all the cards, notes etc she’d sent him and was reluctant to get rid. We had a real wobble a couple of years in when she contacted him to tell him she was getting married and he didn’t deal with it very well. But we got through it and he’s been a good husband and father since.

About a year ago I noticed her name pop up as having replied to one or two of his FB statuses. I didn’t say anything but I sent her a friend request myself, which I admit was a bit weird as I don’t actually know her. Nevertheless she accepted so I had a snoop round her profile, as you do. A few things made me a bit uneasy, first she’s really pretty, good figure etc, second her relationship status said “single” and also although she hadn’t posted that much my DH had commented or liked or put a heart reaction on literally everything she’d posted, going back weeks and weeks. Again I didn’t say anything but the next time I saw she’d commented I asked “is that Such-and-Such?” and when he said yes I asked casually if she was still married. He said no, they’d split up quite recently.

A month or so before Christmas a mutual friend of theirs from university posted some old photos from that time and tagged my DH and this woman in them. Even though it was from years ago, it really hurt me to see photos of them together with their arms round each other etc. One of the photos they weren’t the subject but off to one side, kind of in the background they were kissing really passionately. On this photo my DH had commented “I remember that night ‘wink’” and she’d replied “I do too ‘wink’” then he said “BBJE still” and she’d responded with “naughty...but thank you” and a blowing kiss emoji. I asked him what “BBJE” meant and he brushed it off as an old university in joke, when I pushed to know what it stood for he got irritated and said it was ancient history and to drop it.

Just before Christmas he left his iPad lying around and I’m embarrassed to say I went snooping. I found dozens and dozens and dozens of messages between them, going back all year. There was nothing to suggest an affair, most of them were just chit-chat about their day, but there were quite a few compliments from my DH to her, eg he asked her where certain holiday photos had been taken and when she said which ones, he’d said “where you’re in the gorgeous red bikini”. (of course I went looking and the photos were from yonks ago, it took me ages to find them so how long had he spent going through her photos? And she hasn’t had kids so of course there’s no stretch marks or c-scar or pouch, she’s all long tanned legs and toned belly and perky boobs, there’s no way I can compare). Their recent messages talk about her moving to a city not exactly on the doorstep but where DH has to go minimum of once a month for work. One of his last messages says to let him know when she's found her place and they can meet up and he'll show her round, and she replied with "I'd like that."

I chewed over this for a few days, could hardly think about anything else but between Christmas and NY I finally asked him about the messages and he said she's been down and lonely since splitting with her DH and he's just been trying to build her confidence back up. I said I wasn't happy about them meeting up, he said it probably wouldn't happen anyway but even if it did it was just a friend helping another friend. He was annoyed that I'd snooped on his iPad which I understand and we had an argument about trust, he said I've always been jealous of her for no real reason as he's always been faithful to me. It's true that I've always had a bit of a jealousy problem where she's concerned so there is some truth in what he says.

We had friends round on NYE and shortly after midnight I put our DD to bed while he stayed downstairs with our guests. I tried to have another look on the iPad but he's changed the passcode but there was an unread message from her on the lock screen sent just after midnight, wishing him happy new year and calling him "her rock" and saying she's looking forward to the "next chapter". I haven't said anything to him because I'm embarrassed to admit I was trying to snoop on his iPad again, but I don;t know what to think, what's normal, if I'm BU or he is or what the hell's going on. I want to believe they're just friends but my gut is constantly churning just thinking about them messaging each other and DH looking at photos of her looking gorgeous and sexy in a tiny bikini.

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Bluntness100 · 02/01/2019 15:26

I do think people are jumping way ahead of themselves for something that can still be completely innocuous

And then some. He might just be enjoying the flirting, she might not be interested that way, but people are posting he's leaving her, he will have kids with this woman, that this woman working is his turn on, that she is second best. But hey, best to prepare her, eh?

It's beyond shameful.

Fairylea · 02/01/2019 15:27

I’m not sure my post will be either what you want to hear right now or helpful but here goes....

I could have written your post ten or so years ago. To cut matters short my then dh upped and left within a few weeks of the whole messaging thing with his ex coming out and within 2 weeks he had moved out, left dd then aged 6 and me and never heard from him again.

I found out shortly afterwards that when he had been saying he was staying with his mum visiting (we lived some way away and we both worked shifts so couldn’t always go together) he was actually seeing the ex.

I was utterly heartbroken. I could never imagine the man I had been with for that long would ever do that.

I also did the same as you - added the ex as a friend on Facebook prior to him leaving and tried to understand what was going on. I don’t think he ever really let go of her and I was just second fiddle really.

I then found out he had left me with 30k worth of debt and in order to have a clean break I then had to downsize - a lovely large house in the country we had moved to only 2 years prior to it all going shit shaped. Total mess.

Two years on from all that....

I met my now dh. Life is good and I am now the happiest I have ever been and I realise now how awful and separate my previous marriage was - although I never saw it or admitted it at the time. Dh and I have a young son together and he’s a great stepdad to now teenage dd.

Do not be afraid of the future. It has to be better than this. Flowers

Bluntness100 · 02/01/2019 15:28

There will be many of us that have had fantastic sexual experiences away from our current partners, but you don't humiliate and hurt them by publicly discussing it

It's highly likely it's the opposite of a fantastic sexual experience, that's why it's a joke between them.

Critical thinking skills.

Get some.

itsalloverforanotheryear · 02/01/2019 15:28

BBJE = best blow job ever.

He's a twat.

LTB

YoungBritishPissArtist · 02/01/2019 15:30

OP, I would screen shot the BBJE comment and anything else incriminating; this may be useful later re solicitor.

Sorry this is happening to you, you deserve better.

VietnameseCrispyFish · 02/01/2019 15:32

It's highly likely it's the opposite of a fantastic sexual experience, that's why it's a joke between them

She responded by thanking him.

Are you wilfully trying to misread what’s going on here, by OP’s own admission?

Even if you were correct, is it okay for you if your husband openly tells an ex on social media in front of your friends that she gave him the best blow job ever?

Your bar is incredibly low for a partner, what’s up with that? You sound very invested in the OP’s DH having done very little wrong and all over posters are unanimously piling on to cause pain rather than give their genuine advice with good intent. Why is that?

Are you the DH?

hammeringinmyhead · 02/01/2019 15:33

Exactly. His and her social media friends don't know if it is an in-joke, and I would wager many of his friends know he is married to someone else.

OhLemons · 02/01/2019 15:33

*t's highly likely it's the opposite of a fantastic sexual experience, that's why it's a joke between them.

Critical thinking skills.

Get some*

My critical thinking skills may not be up to the standard of yours, but having read the comment and the response he got to it I believe that it was indeed a compliment.

Feel free to criticise my thought process more if you feel the need.

Youbrokemytwatometer · 02/01/2019 15:35

I can't believe he wrote that on the Facebook post for all to see. I knew straight away what it meant. How disrespectful. And if she had any decency, she'd have removed the comment or told him to, not revelled in it.

I'd leave him for that alone. What a sleazy piece of shit.

Lweji · 02/01/2019 15:35

Critical thinking skills. Get some

You know.. pot, kettle, black...

Bluntness100 · 02/01/2019 15:36

Oh ffs.

Why don't you contact a solicitor, have the papers drawn up and sent to her then work yourself into even more of a lather and go tell the child.viatnamese.

Will you be happy then? Why are you ignoring the fact they have had plenty of opportunity and never even met up yet, that past this her marriage is good?

Fairylea · 02/01/2019 15:36

The Facebook comments are vile.

No one should be accepting that from a partner. Dreadful.

areyoubeingserviced · 02/01/2019 15:40

Agree Fairy

Lweji · 02/01/2019 15:43

Why are you ignoring the fact they have had plenty of opportunity and never even met up yet, that past this her marriage is good?

Because no "good marriage" ever has broken down due to infidelity?
Because they are exs and have already had a sexual relationship?
Have they actually had opportunities? From what the OP says, they will soon when she moves to the new town.

The fact is that the husband here is maintaining what looks like a back up relationship, one that could rekindle at any moment. A bit like going on holiday and leaving your fireplace lit.
It's not inevitable, but highly dangerous.

Bluntness100 · 02/01/2019 15:48

For gods sake. No one is disputing he is flirting, I personally have said the op may be relying on this woman to reject him.

The issue is taking it to thr extreme Of he is planning to leave her, that he will have babies with this woman, that she is second best. Is beyond cruel and totally uncalled for.

baileys6904 · 02/01/2019 15:49

Even if you were correct, is it okay for you if your husband openly tells an ex on social media in front of your friends that she gave him the best blow job ever?

Your bar is incredibly low for a partner, what’s up with that? You sound very invested in the OP’s DH having done very little wrong and all over posters are unanimously piling on to cause pain rather than give their genuine advice with good intent. Why is that?

Are you the DH?

*have you RTFT?? or maybes even just the last page or so, would do? the bit that says "Yes the bj joke was not acceptable, if indeed that's what it was, and I suspect it was," that Bluntness put? If youre going to target a poster, at least get their point right.

And if youre trying to justify people recommending LTB due to said INAPPROPRIATE COMMENT, the one we're all agreeing is inappropriate/disrespectful, then it doesn't.

The husband HAS NOT sent anything but day to day private messages. He HAS NOT denied being married or with a daughter. He HAS NOT hidden meeting plans from her. He HAS been transparent, painfully so, with a hurtful comment being at the crux of the matter. NO ONE is excusing that, what people are doing is saying MAYBE its more innocent than the baying pack of mumsnet posters have automatically assumed. MAYBE the fella is more than happy in his marriage, and has no realisation of the upset he has caused. MAYBE it was a dickhead comment with no intention of any hurt and MAYBE the guy will be mortified that he has upset the woman he loves so much.

MAYBE, just MAYBE things aren't as fucking dire as people are so intent to make them.

MAYBE im wrong. MAYBE im not. We don't know as we are basing opinions on a facebook comment. Nothing else.

If youre happy recommending a woman say good bye to a 10 year relationship that she has been happy in based on this, then thats your prerogative. Based on your assumptions above, perhaps youre a divorce lawyer

category12 · 02/01/2019 15:49

Bluntness, you have as little basis for thinking your interpretation of the comment is correct as anyone speculating on other things in this thread that you've criticised so hard.

areyoubeingserviced · 02/01/2019 15:49

I think that some posters are minimizing the behaviour of Op’s Dh. I , for the life of me cannot understand why.

Bluntness100 · 02/01/2019 15:50

Bluntness, you have as little basis for thinking your interpretation of the comment is correct as anyone speculating on other things in this thread that you've criticised so hard.

Do you struggle with reading comprehension. Because I have given it no absolute interpretation, I have said it could be either. That no one on here knows.

Lweji · 02/01/2019 15:51

It's equally cruel to give the OP false hope.

It is a fact that the OP feels second best, due to her OH's actions. He is not treating the OP as if she's first and foremost in his heart. Quite the opposite.

category12 · 02/01/2019 15:51

Baileys, he hasn't been transparent about plans to meet this woman - OP only knows it's a possibility cos she read the messages. She'd have no idea anything was in the wind if she hadn't.

category12 · 02/01/2019 15:52

"Highly likely" is what you said, Bluntness. Hmm

areyoubeingserviced · 02/01/2019 15:53

Exactly Lweji

Mummylife2018 · 02/01/2019 15:53

OP, I grew up with two parents who absolutely should've split up, but who stayed together 'for the kids' and it was HELL

CONSTANT ARGUING
CONSTANT CRYING

My Mum was miserable, we were miserable and I used to beg God to make them split up.

Please don't do this to your kid/s

Lweji · 02/01/2019 15:54

Even if he had carried out his communications with this other woman in the open, given his feelings for her, he's still playing with fire by continuing to be in contact with her. If he's not hoping for a certain outcome.