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Dating Thread 144: Jingle Bells, Dating Tales, Single All The Way

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DaffoDeffo · 22/12/2018 04:22

Dating thread rules:

  1. The first rule about the dating thread is you don't talk about it with people you're dating.
  2. Develop a thick skin.
  3. Do not invest emotionally too soon.
  4. It's all BS until it actually happens.
  5. Trust your gut instinct.
  6. People vanishing, lying & being generally weird is not your fault.
  7. You are the prize - they should be trying to impress you.
  8. If it's not fun, stop.
  9. Loo update is mandatory.
10. No dating the thread. 11. Do unto others as you would have them do to you.

And a reminder - you don't know them until you know them!

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Notcoolmum · 30/12/2018 11:53

So am struggling a bit with the multiple dating thing. Mr Local ghosted me which was fine as I think we wanted different things. Mr London is coming up tomorrow for NYE but I feel things have really gone off the boil. There’s no momentum in our communication. I really liked him after our second/third dates but he has kept me at a distance and I’ve pulled back.

Mr Liverpool is new on the scene. We’ve had 2 dates and some amazing snogs and I’m looking forward to seeing him again but hard to work out his providence. No social media so anything he is telling me could be a pack of lies? 🤔

DaffoDeffo · 30/12/2018 12:31

notcoolmum that reminds me of a comedy sketch where a woman talks about her new boyfriend with her friends but says what am I meant to do, he has no social media presence and they all freak out :). I don't think it's a bad thing in itself. I have never let any of my irons friend me on social media and I have never tried to friend them!

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DaffoDeffo · 30/12/2018 12:32

singlesal I would agree with everyone else. If you just want a shag then fine. But if he means more to you then don't engage as you will end up getting hurt.

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scotgal2017 · 30/12/2018 13:57

Afternoon chaps, will catch up on thread soon, just back from being with me, myself and I at the cabin. There was no Wifi and no phone signal so was great for not being in contact with people lol. I did visit local town and have got matches on POF etc to catch up on (I can't remember if I posted before I left to say i had rejoined). Mr Italy WA me a few times... he said he missed me, so he got a message back saying, no he missed someone coming to his flat for sex and that he used me for sex, nothing more, nothing less. Was good to get it off my chest!!

Don;t have many irons on the go. I did read most of Matthew Hussey's book whilst i was away so have the other book to go.

TwiceMagic · 30/12/2018 14:00

he also asks me quite a lot of questions about him and do I like certain things, do I like his beard (if not he'll shave it off) what do I think of his shoes (if I don't like them he won't wear them again) like any of that is my business!!

My BF did that a bit at the start about whether I’d be ok with a guy with longish hair or if he should get it cut. I told him it was his hair and it’d be best if he chose how he wanted it. He still asks me about shaving and stubble (he’s indecisive over whether to be clean shaven, have some permastubble or grow a beard). Partly that’s about my comfort (as his day after shaving stubble is like evil sandpaper). But I’m refusing to tell him what he should do with his facial hair; it’s his face.

Tbh, I think it’s partly a really silly desire to try to please me and (at least initially) to be what I want him to be. But I explained that things can only work if I like him as he actually is. And the other bit of it is that as far as I can tell (and much of this I’ve gleaned from his friends and brother, rather than him), his ex was really quite controlling about what he was allowed to look like/do etc. So he has been conditioned to expect that it’s not entirely his decision.

I’ve got absolutely no interest in telling anyone else what to do or wear or how to cut their hair (etc). I’m not even willing to be controlling over my children’s hair (even if DS2’s father insists on being that way). It really doesn’t matter if I don’t like his shoes or jumper so long as he likes them/it. I’m much more interested in whether his character and personality work for me (rather than his hair, shoes or occasional interest in something I find tedious, like boxing).

He’s stopped doing it now, unless he genuinely is just unsure about something himself and wants a second opinion. And we’ve been together long enough that I know it’s just that he wants someone else to tell him that the 90s T-shirt he’s looking at really is very 90s indeed.

It was a bit annoying though. As you say, why act like it’s any of my business whether you have a beard or not? I think some people just lack the confidence to believe people might like them just as they are (for all sorts of reasons).

In my case, I kind of go the opposite way. My ex was horribly controlling and passive aggressive (so I’d have to guess what it was he wanted from me, like a test I could never pass). As a result I’m not really willing to invite anyone else’s opinion on my hair or clothes or interests. I’ve had too long trying to fit a mould I never could and I’ve decided that I’m not interested in anyone who doesn’t just like me exactly as I am. I’m not a ‘fixer upper’, not do I want one!

MyOldBrainStoppedWorking · 30/12/2018 14:41

Having come off all the apps, I seem to have 1 date and 3 non-dates this week.

Non-date 1 - Mr Friend. I met him before Christmas and he was nice but not my type. However, he says he's just looking for friendship rather than dating. So today we met for lunch. Had a nice chat then went our separate ways. If that's all he wants then it suits me to meet occasionally for some company.

Non date 2 - Mr Shoes. He was my very first POF contact from over 2 years ago. However, he was too far away and much too young. But we kept in touch and randomly meet about once a year. We're having lunch tomorrow.

Non date 3 - Mr Rain. We had one date about a year ago and agreed that we weren't suited. But we stayed in touch. And are hoping to go for a walk later in the week.

Actual date - Mr Glamour. He was a tinder match earlier this month. Sent me a photo of him and his ex, who looked like a model. I told him I thought I wasn't right for him. But he insisted that he wanted to meet me after Christmas.
We're having drinks this evening in a very swanky wine bar. I know I will feel out of place. Panicking already about what to wear.

Lovemusic33 · 30/12/2018 16:37

Back from my date with Mr Hippie, went for a walk by a lake and then he took me out for lunch (tapas place). I’m not really feeling any fireworks, it’s annoying as there’s nothing that bad about him, his kind, friendly, good sense of humour but I’m not really feeling it. The fact he is so tall puts me off a little and the fact he smokes (not often but I can smell it on him). We had a good day but it wasn’t amazing.

lannister · 30/12/2018 17:34

@Lovemusic33 trust your intuition! When you have niggly feelings, something aint right.

NanBoleyn · 30/12/2018 19:34

Can I join in please? I've finally taken the plunge after 2 years separation and had my first date today. I'll call him Mr Sales, we got on well, lots in common and I didn't find him unattractive (but not immediately sure whether actually attracted to him!) Have agreed on second date as I did like him.
I also have a date lined up later in the week with Mr Chatty. Long long messages from him but at least the conversation flowed.
Also chatting to a few others in including Mr Medical who I am pretty sure is lying about his age and is using an old photo! And Mr Offshore - sounds lovely but lives on an island.
I look forward to hearing about everyone else and am sure I will be needing advice as this is all new to me!

TwiceMagic · 30/12/2018 20:10

Good luck with Mr Glamour tonight, @MyOldBrainStoppedWorking. I’m sure you’ll look fantastic in whatever you choose to wear.

If you’re not feeling it; you’re not feeling @Lovemusic33. That’s how things go sometimes. Someone can be nice but just not right for you. I’d be totally put off by any smoking (however occasional) and I’d genuinely prefer properly short over very, very tall. Actually I think I prefer kind of short-average over anything else but I may be slightly odd.

TwiceMagic · 30/12/2018 20:12

It sounds like it’s going well at the moment, @NanBoleyn. Lives on an island sounds interesting. I’m imagining something unrealistically romantic (like an island in a loch). 😆

Lovemusic33 · 30/12/2018 20:17

Twice I prefer short, I’m short myself. I’m 5”2, he’s 6”7 🤣. He has decided he’s going to friends tomorrow night and not coming to mine (as he originally wanted too). The smoking thing never used to bother me but now it does, I hate the smell and the health issues that come with it.

I have started talking to another old iron on POF, going to keep my options open.

WarIsPeace · 30/12/2018 20:28

@Lovemusic33 I'm short and have always gone for super tall too.
But actually, not having a face full of armpit is nice, and kissing someone who doesn't have to bend themselves in half is less awkward.

TwiceMagic · 30/12/2018 20:29

5’2 and 6’7 is quite a height difference. That would be very awkward, even when lying down. 😆

The first boy I ever kissed (back in the days when it was boys I was interested in kissing, because I was a teenager) was a foot taller than me. It was ridiculous and even more awkward than a first teenage kids should be.

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Lovemusic33 · 30/12/2018 20:41

It does feel comical. And yes lying down together is awkward 😐. It’s pretty tricky kissing, I feel like a child and it feels wrong. I usually date men that are a bit taller than me (there’s not many men as short as me) but this is a big difference. He’s a pretty big guy, he’s not skinny and when he sits too close he squashes me 🤣. The only bonus is I probably look petite and skinny next to him.

TwiceMagic · 30/12/2018 20:48

I can totally see how that would be offputting. Kind of feeling like a child isn’t great.

The BF is 5’6 and so am I. He might be 1/2” taller than me if he tries to stand up straight. I actually really like that he’s the same height as me. It’s convenient (standing or lying down). In fact, he can drive my car without messing around with the seat or mirrors, which is great.

That said, he gave me a hug standing on the next step up from me on an escalator and I could lean against his chest and I did think that was something I might be missing out on. But it’s not a dealbreaker (obviously).

MyOldBrainStoppedWorking · 30/12/2018 20:53

Love I will send Mr Glamour over to you. He was shorter than me. Probably about 5'6.
He was sitting on a bar stool when I arrived so I didn't realise until the time to leave. I'm 5'7 but I felt like a giant.

The date went well. We found lots to talk about. But, while I wouldn't say he was out of my league, he moves in very different circles to me. I could hold my own during the conversation but dates with him would probably be at very expensive restaurants. I would feel like I had to be on my best behaviour all the time.

TwiceMagic · 30/12/2018 21:03

That doesn’t sound great @MyOldBrainStoppedWorking. I think having somewhat similar lifestyles and lifestyle expectations is important. You need to feel happy and comfortable on dates.

I like the OLD dates exchange idea. ‘This one is a decent human being but not for me’. It might take some of the horror out. 😆

gettingstherehopefully · 30/12/2018 21:30

Hello everyone!

Scotgal2017, is the Matthew Hussey book really good?

Lovemusic, I've had the same feeling as you with Mr Hippie. For those that remember, I met up yesterday with a man from Paris with who I've been in regular contact for a month (WhatsApp and phone calls). It was our first possible weekend when we could get together. I felt pretty calm about the meeting him in a 'what will be will be' kind of way. As he walked down the train platform I immediately noticed that he didn't look much like his photos at all and my heart sank a little. Nevertheless I greeted him with a big hug and we had a great day together; going for drinks, food shopping at the covered market, cooking dinner at my place and a good night together. I felt surprisingly at ease with him. We spoke loads, drank quite a bit. I rarely let men into my home but was glad to have made the effort. He was super enthusiastic about me/us, talking about future plans. He wanted me to reciprocate with equally enthusiastic comments but I preferred to go with the flow and not speak empty words.

We really did have a great time but on waking up this morning I just wasn't feeling it. I gently told him that I'd like to be alone and we agreed he'd leave on the 5pm train. We drank coffee and made lunch, talked more. He was obviously disappointed that I didn't share his hope for something more together but I'm proud of myself for following my gut AND being nice and positive with him regardless of it not feeling right.

I'm just not prepared to settle anymore and prefer to be alone than with someone who doesn't make my heart sing. He's a nice guy, really. My sex was good (no regrets about having DTD at all) but kissing him didn't feel right. I think kissing is so important and it was amazing with the last guy I went out with.

I asked him towards the end of our time together (as we were having an in-depth conversation) if he saw me as a strong person or not. He responded that it was obvious I was a very strong woman otherwise I wouldn't have had the courage to tell him this morning that it wasn't working for me. I'm glad about that.

gettingstherehopefully · 30/12/2018 21:31

Sorry, that was supposed to say 'the sex', not 'my sex'! Smile

gettingstherehopefully · 30/12/2018 21:35

MyOldBrainStoppedWorking, whilst it's good to be with someone who inspires you to do better it isn't right to feel as though you have to behave in a certain way all the time. I remember my sister decades ago saying 'the right person for you is the one who accepts you exactly how you are'. Obvious advice but very true nonetheless.

MyOldBrainStoppedWorking · 30/12/2018 22:05

It's difficult to know what to do about Mr Glamour.
I've had so many dates with boring men who have nothing to talk about. And don't know how to keep a conversation flowing.

But I spent over 2 hours chatting with Mr Glamour. We covered all sorts of subjects. Probably could've talked for a lot longer. It was only when we started discussing food and restaurants that I realised his idea of a meal out would probably cost me a days wages.

He seemed to accept me for who I am. We discussed our different lifestyles and he said he was more interested in personality than what a person does for a living. But it's me who's feeling slightly out of place.

I'm going to send a text tomorrow to say I enjoyed meeting him. And then see if he suggests meeting again. But I suspect he won't.

Lovemusic33 · 30/12/2018 22:16

Gettng that’s how I feel, I can’t exactly pin point what I don’t like (other than the height issue), today was nice, he’s easy to talk too, we had lunch, came back to mine DTD but when he goes I don’t get that feeling that I have felt with others, the feeling that you don’t want them to go, the feeling that you can’t wait to see them again? I don’t think I would be bothered if I didn’t see him again. He doesn’t give me butterflies in my tummy.

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