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Would this bother you or have I gone all feminist/sensitive/irritable

141 replies

whatsthatcar · 09/12/2018 10:00

Me and the man I am dating for the last few months both work in a similar industry, with slightly different jobs and completely different disciplines within that industry. He is paid better as he had been doing in a few years longer and he came from money. Let's call him John. That's the background.

This issue is not all job based, but it is the job thing that frustrates me most, so I will start with that. Obviously in real life I wouldn't say this (!!) but I am an intelligent woman and I have done well for myself. I love a good debate and learning new things and will always say if I don't know or understand something - I know I'm not stupid so I am comfortable doing this. John however thinks he knows everything about everything, including my job. Even when it is completely and utterly wrong. Last night he made a comment about how general people believe x and it is just crazy because it is so wrong. This is my 'area' of specialism and so I said actually it is like that, but the exception is y - not what he had said at all. He laughed at me in a sort of mocking way and just said "sweetheart it really isn't." He usually calls me sweetheart so that's normal but it felt hugely patronising.

I was furious! Luckily the food came that moment and I chose to not go into it as we have had real friction in the past over this sort of thing.

This happens regularly. I got into my job without any contacts, he got in through his Dad. This means he has essentially had all doors open to him from day 1 and (dare I say it!) he is intelligent but I often feel he doesn't always think about things with an open mind and often misses the point. I came from a privileged background too, but my (ridiculous) views from my early twenties are long gone - for instance he still thinks all homeless people are to blame for being homeless (you cant even discuss the wider possibilities here) and he blames my closest friend for never having a better paid job (she could work harder in fairness but equally she has not had anywhere near the opportunity me and him have had). These were views I had when I just left school - very narrow minded. They are not views I hold now and I can listen to another's point of view and properly consider it.

He thinks he knows everything. The drive between my house and his (I had done it nearly 50 times before he did - and he told me i was going the wrong way as his sat nav didn't go that route...obviously I am not an idiot and after so many times I had worked out the quickest route...)

Other times we will be chatting about something and I will mention a fact of interest about the topic where appropriate and he will exclaim "that's right! Well done sweetheart!" I honestly don't think he means to be rude here but I find it insulting.

The feminist point...he's made comments about men being better in his area than the women, it is "just a fact" because "women are too emotional." I think this may have stemmed from a chat we had once where I had said i think women can be emotional at work more than men (at least i can be!). However, saying women are not as good at their job as a general rule is rather different I think? (He's never criticised me and my ability).

What do you think? Am I being total idiot? Happy to hear that if that's the view...thanks for reading :)

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SuperLoudPoppingAction · 09/12/2018 10:03

I would find him quite hard work in this regard and therefore not my cup of tea.

treaclesoda · 09/12/2018 10:04

No, you're not being an idiot. He's patronising and sexist.

TatianaLarina · 09/12/2018 10:04

I think the real question is why you’re dating him at all. He’s an utter twat.

FuckYouChrisAndThatHorse · 09/12/2018 10:05

Honestly? He sounds awful. He doesn’t respect your intelligence or knowledge, assumes he knows better about the things you are an expert in, has no concept of how other people have not had the same advantages he has, and is painfully patronising.

I’m not you but I simply could not be in a relationship with someone who thought they were my superior in all things.

OrchidInTheSun · 09/12/2018 10:05

I think he sounds insufferable

Ikeameatballs · 09/12/2018 10:05

He’s awful. Dump him.

RyderWhiteSwan · 09/12/2018 10:07

You are not an idiot. He is, however. A misogynistic, entitled idiot.

croprotationinthe13thcentury · 09/12/2018 10:08

Sounds like a complete bellend. It is to be hoped he is seriously good between the sheets.

LatentPhase · 09/12/2018 10:09

Yeah all of that would bother me too. He thinks he (and indeed all men) are superior to you (and all women, including your friend). It’s both implicit and explicit.

If this is how it is after just a few months I would say this isn’t going to go very far.

Next!

Notcoolmum · 09/12/2018 10:09

He sounds like a complete and utter cock Womble. Why on Earth are you dating him?

And please don’t grease feminism like a dirty word. Surely the #metoo movement has shown that feminism remains as valid and needed as ever today.

Notcoolmum · 09/12/2018 10:10

Sorry don’t treat feminism... can’t edit my post.

Thatsalovelycuppatea · 09/12/2018 10:10

Sounds like a dick. You don't sound compatible. Why bother going through so much hassle?

C0untDucku1a · 09/12/2018 10:10

I think youre sexist as well tbh. You said women are more likely to be emotional at work? A male colleague of mine was in tears last week. You didnt challenge him properly over YOUR JOB! And your thread title is appalling.

Apart from that, he sounds an utter knob. Why are you with him?

kaldefotter · 09/12/2018 10:11

I couldn't abide being patronised like that. I'd find it intolerable. He won't change. You deserve better than to tolerate this shit. He's not worth your investment.

whatsthatcar · 09/12/2018 10:12

If I pull him up on things he will eventually back down and say "ok maybe you a right then darling."

He actually isn't a bad person - remember I have posted about one element of his character that I find very annoying.

Other parts are that he is generous (to homeless people included!), loves his family a lot, works hard, makes a huge effort with me.

I just find this so so so annoying. Especially where my job is concerned. The other week he was telling me I should be on far more money, even when I told him I was well in the right pay bracket and had obviously taken a job that fitted my expectations (again, I am not stupid!) - mentioned it to a colleague at a similar level to me - she thought it was hilarious and asked how John would know when he works in X area.

I find myself getting tangled into disputes with him over things and wonder if I should just nod along even when he is entirely wrong?!

He also likes to think he knows everything about where I live - I live in a really really nice suburb whereas he lives near his parents in the countryside. He constantly tells me how high crime is where I live etc and how much better it is where he lives. This frustrates me because although I had a privileged upbringing I wasn't given loads of money and had to work to live where I do and I love it - it is actually objectively nicer than where he is based although my home is smaller. God it all sounds petty writing it down!

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ChangoMutney · 09/12/2018 10:12

A good man will find intelligence in a woman attractive.

NK1cf53daaX127805d4fd5 · 09/12/2018 10:12

Why are you still with him? He sounds horrible and patronising

AFistfulofDolores1 · 09/12/2018 10:12

It's not you. It's him. I think that he's compensating for being enabled into his current role, and it is simply not on.

justilou1 · 09/12/2018 10:12

See ya John!

Breakfastofmilk · 09/12/2018 10:14

YANBU. Differences opinion are fine but I could NOT put up with a man who thought he was always right and patronised me like that.

2cats2many · 09/12/2018 10:14

I couldn't tolerate that. No way.

LatentPhase · 09/12/2018 10:15

What’s the point in being irritated by all this bollocks.

Bye bye John 👋

Magmatic80 · 09/12/2018 10:15

‘Maybe you are right’ is the same as ‘I’m sorry you feel that way’. He isn’t backing down and believing you’re right, he’s saying what he thinks you want to hear.

RyderWhiteSwan · 09/12/2018 10:15

Gah! he sounds even worse from your last post! I know men like this. They don't change.

kaldefotter · 09/12/2018 10:16

It doesn't sound petty when you write it down, it sounds infuriating. You're now trying to defend him, but he has a pretty serious character flaw, and that won't change.

Also, I agree with the sentiment expressed above; please don't use 'feminist' disparagingly, or treat it as though it's a dirty word.

You're allowed to have self-respect, and decide that you don't need to put up with his shit.

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