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Dating thread 141 - fun and games

999 replies

Koko12 · 25/10/2018 19:05

Hope not stepping in anyone’s toes but thought I’d start the new thread as old one was full and I wanted to post!

Dating thread rules:

  1. The first rule about the dating thread is you don't talk about it with people you're dating.
  2. Develop a thick skin.
  3. Do not invest emotionally too soon.
  4. It's all BS until it actually happens.
  5. Trust your gut instinct.
  6. People vanishing, lying & being generally weird is not your fault.
  7. You are the prize - they should be trying to impress you.
  8. If it's not fun, stop.
  9. Loo update is mandatory.
10. No dating the thread. 11. Do unto others as you would have them do to you.

And a reminder - you don't know them until you know them!

OP posts:
HopelessWithNumbers · 14/11/2018 16:52

I am in London Twice
But that didn’t seem to help before.
I think my profile is boring! I’m not boring but I don’t seem to communicate that very well!

Milomonster · 14/11/2018 18:11

@hopeless I was on a Soulmates for a few months and paid for the subscription. Had a few dates with genuinely nice guys that went nowhere. There is a very low turnover of guys (even in London). Many of the same faces since January. Bumble is much better, I think.

RunsforCake14 · 14/11/2018 18:17

This is going to sound a bit pathetic but I'm feeling sorry for myself this evening. I work by myself and today I spent 7 hours with just myself for company. No interaction with another human being.
I've come home and my kids are busy with homework and messaging friends. I'm feeling like I've been a bit abandoned by my friends but it's just that they're busy with work and family.

I'm tempted to go back on the apps just to get some messages from someone. But I know it will just end in frustration.

Does anyone know of any apps that are just for chatting, not dating. I looked at the Bumble friends option but that just showed me 3 women who looked fake. I'm ok in the day time on my own but I find evenings hard.

user1466783975 · 14/11/2018 18:54

Runs,i'm holding out till after Christmas to go back on pof,but god it's so hard. I too work on my own all day. I think this is the longest I've been single since the ex hub ran off with a Russian 5 years ago. I know I need this time,yet pof is calling. I've never have any other apps like tinder as i'm still using my old nokia( well,its a year old actually!). May be you could just go on and tell people you're just after chats and not quite ready to meet up.Take the pressure off

DaffoDeffo · 14/11/2018 19:19

runs you're welcome to my number. Do you have it? Im ALWAYS up for a chat Grin

shitwithsugaron · 14/11/2018 19:23

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Koko12 · 14/11/2018 19:24

Ditto runs if you ever want to chat feel free to pm me and I’ll give you my number x

OP posts:
Dusty5 · 14/11/2018 19:34

Okay guys, I need your advice.
So I'm 3 dates in with this guy, I'm trying not to over invest, but he seems lovely.
We message on a daily basis, try to have a date at least once a week.
Is it to early to have a chat about where r were heading, should I give it more time and dates with him?
Also the messaging has been light, just about normal stuff,
I'm wondering what other peagles messages are like , what do you talk about in messages? Just seems a bit standard and boring to chat about your day all the time?

RunsforCake14 · 14/11/2018 19:49

Thank you everyone for your support. It's just one of those days. Tomorrow will be better.
I've just committed myself to trying something new tomorrow evening. Men in lycra will be there! Not sure if that's good or bad. But it has to better than the weirdos of POF Smile

scotgal2017 · 14/11/2018 20:20

okay i need opinions guys as certain things I'm thinking are taking up too much headspace. as this is the first guy i have met since my marriage ended and the first time I have been in the dating world i may be missing things that scream "red flag" or "that's so obvious!" to others. Also just to add, my grandad passed away yesterday but we haven't been close for a long time so i don;t think it's just being emotional due to the circumstances.

Okay, i have posted a few times about Mr cheekybanter. this post may get TMI and some people may disagree with my actions but i'm (now after abusive ex) a firm believer in doing what feels right, going with the flow and picking myself up and dusting off if it doesn't work (heck I did it a million times or more in my marriage)

Anyway i'm rambling but this may be a long post. As said before MrCheekyBanter messaged me first on POF. He did not have a photo. His first message wasn't the generic hi so i replied and said he sounded interesting. He sent me photos and although not a looker the conversation flowed (although he was quite sexual from the off). I sent him some photos of me and he said I was exactly what he wanted etc. We arranged to meet, and the first time we sat in his car and talked for 2 hours straight. It was very natural and he got a cheeky snog at the end of the evening. he kept saying i was more beautiful than he thought and I made him nervous ina good way etc. Also just to mention, we talked briefly about kids, exes etc but he did not say much about his recent ex except that she had gone off with a guy. He said that he had had a stalker in a previous relationship and that he had been in an abusive relationship himself so knew where i was coming from )i know from MN that this can be a red flag).

I went home and we kept messaging. he suggested moving to Kik, to whch i said, i've heard that Kik is only for married men wanting hookups and he said no, he uses it all the time. We moved to Kik...wasn';t long before i got videos of a certain part of his anatomy......at this stage I was fine to just go along as we had met in person and we did click. he wanted to meet again 2 days after initial meeting, so we met same place and time, again 2 hours in his car....but I had told him some of what he waqs saying made me uncomfortable (which I had posted about here) and that i wasn't naive. he said okay well, you can go and then put his case to me to say he wanted to still see me. None of this was done in an aggressive way which was refreshing after constant arguments with ex. We had a few cheeky snogs at the end of this date.

Since then as posted, he has been very sexual and we arranged last week for him to come to mine. he did and we DTD and it was great. When we are in person it is natural and as you would expect a dating couple to be (laughing, joking etc).

I;m now struggling as he seems to have backed off and I'm not being "lovebombed". On Kik our messages are very generic and sexual....there is very little conversation from him about anything else and I don;t want to bring it up over text. It's got so generic, he even sent me a video of his anatomy that he had sent me a week ago, so now i'm beginning to wonder if he isn't as single as he is trying to make out? he says he shares a flat with a guy.....

Really, I understand i really don;t know much about this man but I'm beginning to wonder if I ever will and whether he is just getting his kicks with me because he can get away with it. There's been no suggestion about meeting in a public place (especially near where he lives) even for a coffee, so am i just a FWB? I don;t have a problem with this as long as I know that that is what we are....he says he isn;t "dating" anyone else but I really don;t know if that is true...he says he wears his heart on his sleeve but anyone can keep things a secret couldn't they? we live an hour apart and can't see esach other every few days so it's a tricky one...I decided to send him a message to say "am i not getting a video this week?". He has said he will send one later and I'm waiting to see if he sends a previous one as i think if he does I'm just going to end it there and then. It;s strange, but he sends love heart messages, all his messages end with an x and have done since pretty much the first time we met. Part of me is trying to convince myself that a married man wouldn't bother himself with the xx's or love hearts and wouldn't be sending sweet messages interspersed with the sex talk, especially now that he has had his itch scratched. honestly, i'm just tying myself in knots at the moment. I think if it doesn;t end tonight, next time I see him i'll be having a frank talk with him to get more info about him and his relationship history.... (he knows about mine really). any/all opinions/input greatly appreciated and sorry this post is soo long! p.s tried not to drip feed!!

PPS obviously if I find out he isn;t single he will be gone before you can say Lying bastard!!

Eesha · 14/11/2018 20:35

@RunsforCake14 feel free to PM me too, I'm a SAHM and I'm alone all day long aside from my kiddies. I have lots of friends but responsibilities mean I'm at home every evening, and can empathise with how lonely it gets. I often think with OLD that I'm just looking for someone to talk to rather than any full on relationship...

coolcahuna · 14/11/2018 20:38

@scotgal, I don't think you'll know unless you get an invite to his place or go out in public.
Do you have his number or just kik

scotgal2017 · 14/11/2018 20:58

@coolcahuna, just Kik

coolcahuna · 14/11/2018 21:08

@scotgal, do you know his surname?
The problem with kik it's so easy to delete the app off his phone and reinstall.

Also the video, if he sent it to you twice, sounds like he might be sending to others?

scotgal2017 · 14/11/2018 21:14

@coolcahuna, no dont know his surname.....I'm not sure if he knows mine, I understand that raises flags (as does the Kik) but I don;t know if I would wantto give my phne number to a guy straight off anyway jsut incase he was an arse. Now Mr Cheekybanter has been to my house he obviously knows my address, so i think at the next meeting (if there is one) that i want to get more personal info about him.....if he's not willing to give it by now then in my opinion there's something not quite right..... Hmm

RollsEyes · 14/11/2018 22:28

@scotgal2017, I just stopped by this thread and had to stick my oar in. Reading your post made me really sad that you're considering some kind of relationship with this man. Please raise your standards; he's made it clear what kind of person he is, and that is someone who is not good enough for you.

You sound lovely. He doesn't. Please block him.

HereIgoagainxx · 14/11/2018 22:46

Scotsgal I have to agree with Rollseyes. You meet for a few hours chatting in a car and he sends you unsolicited(initially) videos of his cock? Is that all he has to offer? Are you happy to be what looks like dirty secret?

He sounds like an absolute creep. He obviously keeps his videos if he sent the same video twice. God knows how long it's been doing the rounds. I agree you sound lovely and deserve much more than what he appears to be offering.

richdeniro · 14/11/2018 23:17

Agree with the other posters @Scotsgal, he sound awful. A first date in a car, sending you dickpics afterwards and now he's backed off.

You deserve way better.

scotgal2017 · 14/11/2018 23:23

Thanks guys, it's frustrating because on some level we connected personality wise but at 39 and having had to put up with the highest degree of abusive twatishness for the last 20 years, I'm looking for what should be a normal relationship (or at least one where I get a coffee out of it). I'll be sending him a I'm out message tomorrow morning so wish me luck!

RollsEyes · 14/11/2018 23:25

Oh I'm really pleased, @scotgal2017. Send him the message then block his arse Smile. Onwards and upwards x

coolcahuna · 14/11/2018 23:25

@scotgal, wise decision. You deserve better. I'd delete kik too

wishywashy6 · 15/11/2018 01:47

@scotgal2017 wise choice, you're worth more than that

@Dusty5 I personally think 3 dates is too soon, you're still getting to know each other.
I chatted with my partner for around a month before we even met (only because I was away and he had a lot on with work) but we spoke daily, it was still about 8 weeks into dating (dates once or twice a week) and chatting daily either by text or phone, or both, that we really spoke about where we wanted it to go.

Message wise, I can't even really tell you what we chat about. They just go off on complete tangents about all sorts 🤷🏼‍♀️

Eesha · 15/11/2018 02:13

@scotgal2017 right decision, I'm out of an abusive relationship myself and it's so easy to try and really want someone to be so lovely afterwards even if they arent, but this bloke is showing you what he is like. You need to look at the main signs and make your decision rather than hoping about something underneath. Once I started applying this rule to people, it did start weeding out a few bozos!

HereIgoagainxx · 15/11/2018 06:56

Yay Scots gal a very good move!! You deserve far better. Now raise that bar right up.

I think anyone that has been in abusive relationship can find the boundaries get blurred. What you described was simply not good enough for you!! And don't worry if he takes it well or not, it's not your job to bolster his ego. You owe him nothing.

Even if you want/crave company, stay strong. This idiot will only take you off the market where decent men are. Smile

RunsforCake14 · 15/11/2018 06:58

scotgal as everyone says, get rid of him. I would've blocked him the minute he sent the unsolicited dick pic. Men like him know exactly what to say and can seem very charming.
Tell him you don't want to continue then block him so he can't persuade you to change your mind.