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Dating Thread 138: Hotter Than July

999 replies

CoverMeLads · 06/08/2018 19:51

Dating thread rules:

  1. The first rule about the dating thread is you don't talk about it with people you're dating.
  2. Develop a thick skin.
  3. Do not invest emotionally too soon.
  4. It's all BS until it actually happens.
  5. Trust your gut instinct.
  6. People vanishing, lying & being generally weird is not your fault.
  7. You are the prize - they should be trying to impress you.
  8. If it's not fun, stop.
  9. Loo update is mandatory.
10. No dating the thread. 11.Do unto others as you would have them do to you.

And a reminder - you don't know them until you know them!

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Kinunir · 28/08/2018 16:58

Male perspective here if you want it Runs

user1466783975 · 28/08/2018 17:06

Thanks cover, fingers crossed. Not sure I would have the energy to go back on old. Getting stood up,men getting me into bed too early and never to hear again (my fault, I know),men love bombing me and wanting to move in,waiting for txts yet they are online,the list goes on. It's knackering! Good luck everyone x

Pringlecat · 28/08/2018 17:31

I gave Tinder a try. Mainly because I promised on this thread that I would. I do get quite a lot of matches, but NO ONE EVER MESSAGES. Occasionally they don't message, say nothing, then a few days later, they remove themselves.

I had one date out of Tinder and it was the fetish guy who I decided not to see again.

All roads lead back to POF...

Has anyone ever met someone in real life and found them to be much better in person than their style of writing? Had a message from someone who has actually read my profile and seems vaguely normal, but I hate, hate, hate the way he writes. I'm such a pedant... I think sometimes the writing is even more a turn off than the photos.

@RunsforCake14 I'd offer to look, but I'm not exactly doing well myself! I'd take up Kinunir's offer of a male POV.

@Catmatrat I'd be wary too. I also want a man to be attracted to me, but if he's too OTT during the first three dates, then from experience, he's only after sex. Or he's trying to convince me that sex leads to a relationship rather than the other way round. Not for me.

@user1466783975 I think you're even more old school that me. Which is nice. I know I'm one of the more Victorian ladies on this thread - it's nice to have company! Wink For me, there are very few boundaries once the trust is there, but it takes a while for me to gain that trust with a stranger (because experience shows most of them are pigs).

@gettingstherehopefully I accept that many people multi-date from day one (much as I hate it) and you're not exclusive until/unless you've had a conversation. But to me, talking about talking with other people is a bit weird and disrespectful. I think you should only bring up dating other people when you're both ready to say 'and I don't want to date other people' and just keep quiet about it until you get to that stage.

I can see both POVs - where I am in life right now, I could happily do away with everyday messaging. But I'd have to feel pretty secure to go for days without contact - and you're not at that point. You know he's talking to other people. When he's not talking to you, he's messaging other people. So I understand why you feel more of a need for regular contact - you want to be reminded that you're his best and most favourite option.

My limited experience of Frenchmen (I used to live on the other side of the Manche myself) is that they either don't care about you, or they're massively head over heels in love with you, with no in between. I think you have to declare yourself in or out, there's no 'seeing how it goes'.

How much do you like him? Take a risk.

@meowimacat I can't decide if one tick, two ticks, blue tickets is a great thing or the devil's work. Such a modern first world problem, eh?

callow · 28/08/2018 17:40

Hi. I have been following the thread for a few weeks. I have ended up chatting to two guys. One I am have 3rd date with at the weekend, the other only one date.

How can I word a text to the one date guy who has asked to meet again as I want to see how it goes with the first chap.. I do also like the 2nd guy but now it is getting a little more serious I am not someone who can have 2 dates on the go at the same time.. Thanks

Pringlecat · 28/08/2018 17:49

@callow You've only had two dates with the first guy. I'd be inclined to be busy at the weekend (little white lie like uni friends visiting), see how the third date goes with the first guy and then take a view on seeing the first guy again or trying to arrange a second date with the second guy. Basically, I would stall the date with the second guy until I knew if I definitely wanted to cancel.

Someone once told me he was trying to choose between me and someone else he was dating. That felt like shit. I think I'd rather have been stalled.

gettingstherehopefully · 28/08/2018 17:53

Ah, PringleCat, that is a very helpful message, thank you.

Frenchmen are much more about flirting and game playing IMO but it's not unpleasant, I've found. I'm half French, have been here for over twenty years but still find the difference between French and British men intriguing.

Plus points about this man. When he says he's going to do something he does it. He listens well and wants to find out about me as well as divulging information about himself. He's less of a fretter than I am (which could be good for me) and takes me very happily as I am (so far). He's very attracted to me (has made that very clear) and has been honest about his expectations of a serious relationship. We seem to agree on many things and laugh a lot. In public he holds me, shows me a lot of affection and is very polite.

Less positive points (for me) the frequent chatting with other women on OLD. If he's telling the truth (who knows) he claims he's talking to long distance women and has met up with very few over the past few months. His texting style; quick responses, always affectionate and positive but short. The fact he's told me he can be jealous in a relationship and that he wants to live with someone whilst I see myself more living apart in a future relationship.

I've liked previous suggestions on this thread about gently stating one's needs; those that like you will stick around. So, I think I'll do that. If he likes me as much as he claims then he shouldn't have any problem if not then, never mind.

Pringlecat · 28/08/2018 18:03

@gettingstherehopefully Good on you. We move to compromise far too quickly - say what you want and if it works, brilliant, if it doesn't - well, it wouldn't have worked anyway. You're not losing anything with that approach. In fact, you're saving time for both of you.

callow · 28/08/2018 18:15

Thanks for the advice Pringlecat. I am pretty busy so I have sent a true message saying I might be free on Sunday afternoon. I have plans with a girlfriend but she often cancels due to depression. After that I am truly busy for the rest of the month with holidays. Hopefully that will stall him for a while.

gettingstherehopefully · 28/08/2018 18:15

Pringlecat, your thoughts have made me feel so much better, thank you.

I'm not very good at going with the flow relationship wise and spend more time working on that (unsuccessfully) than daring to state my needs. You are absolutely right; by sending such a message (which I just have Smile ) I'm saving my time and his instead of sitting on my uncomfortable thoughts and fretting.

It's all about knowing you deserve more than second best and stating it respectfully.

I'll keep you posted, if I may, of his response. Either way, whether he agrees or not with my need for a little regular contact over the next few weeks of absence, it'll be good for me as I can move forward. One step at the time.

Pringlecat · 28/08/2018 18:26

@gettingstherehopefully Oh, I'm glad you feel better. Smile Will be looking out for an update!

DaffoDeffo · 28/08/2018 18:36

Met Mr NY. It was good I thought. But I wasn't sure he felt the same way and I was right. I would quite happily have come off online dating for him but I can see he doesn't feel the same way as he's still on the apps we met on and still actively on there. He said he is really looking forward to seeing me again but I bet he doesn't call tonight and he has called me every night so far. Bit depressing but confirms my mantra for meeting people rather than messaging. He sent a message late today saying he had been super busy but I could see that hours before that he had managed to be online. I just think the bottom line is that he wasn't as into me as I was him.

Fwb has been in touch and trying to set something up with him..may focus on Mr Northern and see what happens.

Oh well....

gettingstherehopefully · 28/08/2018 18:57

I can imagine how disappointed and flat you might be feeling Daffo.

OLD really seems to be an addiction for so many people. How was your date? Did he seem as keen as you were?

VetOnCall · 28/08/2018 20:17

Oh Daffo massive hugs for you, I'm so sorry. I can imagine exactly how you feel. The same could happen to me on Saturday and I'll be in bloody Canada 🙈

Cakecrumbs · 28/08/2018 20:34

Might I have some advice please?
I've be putting next to zero effort into old recently because I don't feel like I'm particularly bothered about it BUT one guy caught my eye and we have been chatting a bit, we texted a bit over the weekend and he suggested a call which happened and was lovely, as soon as we came off the call we ended up texting for another hour. Then the next day we had a longish text conversation in the afternoon, nothing past about 6ish that evening. Today he messaged me first, I replied but he waited until after work to message back and since then his messages have been very short and to the point. After work tiredness and just leave him to it? I don't want to go psycho on him and ask him if he is OK, unless that's what men want? Confused
Will catch up with the thread soon.
Sorry about your disappointment over MrNY daffo
vet what an adventure, I hope there will be updates from Canada?

Cakecrumbs · 28/08/2018 20:38

Runs I'm happy to look if you want a female perspective too

VetOnCall · 28/08/2018 21:03

Cake I'll definitely check in. I'll either be ecstatic or gutted!

Pringlecat · 28/08/2018 21:12

@DaffoDeffo Sorry to hear that. It never gets any easier. You are right though and you know you're right - he's not as into you as you are into him, and for self-preservation, you have to take that power back and look elsewhere. You are the prize!

@Cakecrumbs Have you actually met him yet?

Cakecrumbs · 28/08/2018 21:15

pringle not met him yet

Pringlecat · 28/08/2018 21:21

@Cakecrumbs If you like him, meet him. It can get exhausting speaking that much (mainly in writing) before a first meet, and you're running into pen pal territory. Meet him, see if there's a spark, and if there is, the conversation should go back to flowing well!

Cakecrumbs · 28/08/2018 21:26

pringle we are planning on meeting but he lives far away, he has already asked for my free dates (I live where he is from and he is planning on moving back)

RunsforCake14 · 28/08/2018 21:38

Daffo so disappointed for you. Have you heard from him at all this evening?

Cakecrumbs will pm you the link for my profile, thanks

DaffoDeffo · 28/08/2018 22:08

vet I am sure you will be fine

No, heard nothing other than one message earlier today. He has called every day but nada today. Never mind.

I now have Mr Music (who stood me up 3 times), who I thought I had blocked, trying to tell me he came off all the dating apps because he liked me so much lol!

Arghhhhhh! Block block!

DaffoDeffo · 28/08/2018 22:14

Tbh normally I don't care but he has been calling me every single day for a while for hours. And in this instance I would actually rather he said you know after meeting you it doesn't feel right. Rather than just ghosting me. But I know I can't dictate his behaviour. I will just stop messaging him now because I can see he is active on his dating apps (we are on the same ones) but it does feel like a big disappointment which is exactly what I wanted to avoid.

Pringlecat · 28/08/2018 22:15

My neighbour keeps coming up on Bumble and Tinder. I keep swiping left! How do I make it stop? Arrrrgh. Awkward.

PS No, not remotely interested.

MargoLovebutter · 28/08/2018 23:04

Sorry Daffo. Stuff like that never gets an easier. Gin Wine

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