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Money causing family tensions

392 replies

RollUpTheHosepipe · 27/07/2018 18:30

I hope this fits into Relationships, I’m not feeling brave enough for AIBU! Genuinely unsure if I’m in the wrong here or not. Have name changed and can’t give too much detail for fear of outing, but the gist is this...

I’ve been with DH for many years and in all that time there has been a long standing arrangement regarding a family property, in that when it was sold half would go to him, and half would go to his parents. This was the request of the original owners of the property, and the deeds of the house reflect half ownership.

The property is now being sold, and his parents have asked him for almost all of the money from his half in order to fund a property they want to buy. They would have enough money to buy something with their half, but it isn’t what they want, they want one that costs considerably more hence the request.

DH is in an absolute state because he doesn’t know what to do, he doesn’t want to be the reason that his parents are unhappy by saying no, but we have children of our own and the amount of money we’re talking about them taking would be totally life changing for us. We have suggested compromises where they take a lesser amount from DH’s half to give them more money to play with, but they don’t like those options either.

I have had a difficult relationship with my in laws in the past, and me and DH have had some ups and downs lately so I’m conscious of our relationship too, but I don’t understand putting your own wants above your child and your grandchildren, and it’s not something I would ever do unless I was utterly desperate, not just because I didn’t like the options available for the amount of money that I had.

Ive told DH that it’s his decision to make and he needs to do whatever he needs to do for his own peace of mind, and I will support him in that. Whatever happens won’t affect our relationship in any way, because it’s not him I’m mad at and we will be fine regardless of what happens. But, I can’t hide the fact that I’m livid with his parents for putting him in this position in the first place, and for asking him to give up so much when we could do so many things with the money ourselves. So I’ve told him that should this go ahead as they wish, I’ll do nothing to stop him and the kids seeing his parents as they wish, but I don’t want to see them for the foreseeable future because I can’t accept their behaviour and am too mad with them on behalf of DH.

Im not envisaging this to go on forever, but for now I just don’t want to face them. This isn’t helping DH who wants to find a solution to make everyone happy when there clearly isn’t one, but I don’t feel like a can lie about how I feel. Am I being grabby in expecting DH to be given what he’s owed? Am I being dramatic? Should I slap on a happy face and pretend for the sake of relations? I’ve gone over it so many times that I’m not sure what’s best so hoping some outside perspectives will help.

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RollUpTheHosepipe · 29/07/2018 12:10

I asked him if he’d do the same to one of our children when they’re adults, he said that he didn’t know, which absolutely appalled me.

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another20 · 29/07/2018 12:10

His main concern is still family harmony, so he wants me to agree,

No this is not true -- it is his own personal discomfort in dealing with his unreasonable parents that he wants to alleviate.....what about your "family harmony" - there are 4 of you to consider.

Stick to your guns 100% - you sound reasonable and fair - do not give in to him - he is rolling over and doing the wrong thing - and playing on your emotions at the same time. Dont let him do this to your children.

If you give an inch to these sorts of people they will take a mile - dont let this happen.

RandomMess · 29/07/2018 12:11

AngryAngryAngryAngryAngryAngry

Cherubfish · 29/07/2018 12:16

Can he explain why he would do this to one of his children?

another20 · 29/07/2018 12:19

I’m bitterly disappointed but if I can’t even get DH on side I don’t see how I can fight this fight without him, without fracturing his and our family forever.

Your thinking is wrong here - YOU do not take responsibility for fracturing family dynamics.

IF it comes to that it was the UNREASONABLE request of the ILs (as unanimously declared on this thread).

You need to stand strong for what is the RIGHT thing to do on so many levels - the wishes of the benefactor, the law, your children even for your DH - even he doesnt WANT to do this - he is being manipulated thru FOG (fear, obligation, guilt) to hand over his inheritance - not because it is the right thing to do.

Maybe the benefactor left the split as they did as they knew the dubious characters of the ILs?

Cambionome · 29/07/2018 12:29

Don't back down op. You have the weight of Mumsnet behind you!! Smile

RollUpTheHosepipe · 29/07/2018 12:31

If you could all pop round and have a word with DH then accompany us to the ILs in convoy that would be super Grin

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niketrainersarecomfy · 29/07/2018 12:31

10 grand will become 15 then 20. You need to show how you have worked out a house and mortgage repayments and show that you need the deposit and money for fees etc.
Or divorce him and take that quarter of the money to buy your children a home.

FishingIsNotASport · 29/07/2018 12:32

Have they spent a lot of money improving the property? And I mean improvements that add real value eg. extension, conservatory, major landscaping, not just updating. If yes, perhaps they should expect some return for that, but just general maintenance and bathroom/kitchen update then no, those are just general upkeep. The standard now should be what it was 20 years ago. After all they've had the benefit of it.

SuitedandBooted · 29/07/2018 12:38

Your ILS are "fracturing the family dynamic", by being so ridiculously grabby and selfish. This is not a normal way to treat your children, it really isn't.

It's quite telling that NOBODY on here thinks they are right. They have really done a number on him. He is not responsible for fulfilling all their wants, he does not have to give them any of his inheritance, particularly as they already have enough for a place anyway!

Perhaps I should have suggested to my siblings that all my parent's cash should have come to ME Hmm - after all, I really, really wanted a much larger house with more land than the one I ended up buying. Selfish buggers kept it for themselves though - somehow, they didn't realise that I'm more important than them! (stamps foot!!)

SuitedandBooted · 29/07/2018 12:42

Have you picked out any houses in a good area for work and schools, and done the math's OP?

Even losing 10K may put them out of reach for you. And they shouldn't even have 10p off you!

peekyboo · 29/07/2018 12:42

I'm not sure how much damage this is going to do to your marriage but I don't think you're coming out unscathed.

user1457017537 · 29/07/2018 12:46

Just stand firm and say you want to stick to the original agreement. They have had plenty of time to save for their preferred property. It’s your husbands inheritance as well as theirs and he (and you) are entitled to benefit.

RollUpTheHosepipe · 29/07/2018 12:48

He just thinks that all families are different and that’s how it is. The way his works is not the way other people’s may work and that’s fine, I can’t get anything else through to him. But, just as I can’t imagine sitting my children down in ten years time and telling them that their security was given away for what their grandparents wanted, I cannot sit them down and tell them that the reason their home was broken was that mummy and daddy were arguing the toss between 50 and 60k. Divorce is not an option here. I know you’ll all eye roll at this but DH is and excellent father and husband and is, after all a product of his environment. I cannot hold him to ransom by threatening to take away his children because he’s finding it difficult to undo 35 years of brainwashing in the space of a few days. Maybe I’m wrong for that, but I just won’t do it.

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peekyboo · 29/07/2018 12:53

I'm not suggesting divorce. But just as you've felt sidelined by his treatment of his parents over you, you'll feel hurt by the time he's finished decimating his children's inheritance today. You may love him just as much but you might not like or respect him as much.

You've put up with the damage his family has done before, and the damage he has done by not supporting you. But this harms your children too. I don't think you're going to find it easy to get past this.

It's so not about the money, is it?? It's about him and his parents, and the knock-on effect for the rest of you.

niketrainersarecomfy · 29/07/2018 12:57

You wont be breaking your childrens home, we know that. But hus refusal to put your family before his parents selfishness will chip the respect you have for him away. And excellent fathers dont sell their kids short. I bet it wont just be 10grand. They know he is too weak to argue. Theyre actually evil imo

SuitedandBooted · 29/07/2018 12:58

All families ARE different.

Very few attempt to steal their kid's inheritance, and don't give a toss about their grand children having a secure, permanent home.

freetoagoodhome · 29/07/2018 13:02

I know you’ve said you don’t really get on with the in laws anyway, but if he gives them the 10k, what’s your stance going to be with them from now on?

RandomMess · 29/07/2018 13:04

I would strongly suggest that you get relationship therapy because he doesn't see you and the DC as his primary responsibility/family.

It isn't about the money as much as he is totally at their back and call and what will happen when they become infirm?

RollUpTheHosepipe · 29/07/2018 13:08

If that’s what happens I will make sure they are aware that it’s not done with my blessing, and the reasons why. After, I’ll be civil to them at birthdays, christmas, etc for the sake of my husband and children, but I won’t be seeing them unless it’s unavoidable, and I’ve told DH this.

Right, we’re off. Wish me luck and I’ll be back later, hopefully with good news.

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Cambionome · 29/07/2018 13:12

Good luck. Stay strong. Flowers

Wallywobbles · 29/07/2018 13:26

Good luck. Please be the evil one and just tell them to fuck right off. You'll not regret it b

Robin2323 · 29/07/2018 13:41

Good luck 😉

Icecoldchilli · 29/07/2018 14:06

Why have your PIL never bought their own house?

This would piss me off royally.

It doesn’t sound like they are really in the position/intending to leave you any inheritance, so why don’t they just rent?

whatwouldkeithRichardsdo2 · 29/07/2018 14:15

And why do they seem to keep deterring your husband from buying a house?

Madness.