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OH Begging me not to leave

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Satnam11 · 29/03/2018 09:32

Okay I'm going to lay this out so I can get an honest opinion off you guys. I'm ready for leaving but he's begging me not to go (he has no where to go, no family/friends).

We got together 2 years ago, he left his job and moved across the country to be with me. To start a fresh as he called it. He moved in on the 4th month of knowing each other (yep, I know, bad OP). Back then I was in a terrible confused place. Just finished with my fiance of 5 years, he was living a double life with another women (ex). I was single for about 2 months (this seems to be a recurring pattern in my life) before meeting current DP.

okay so he moves in all goes well for the first 3 month until the EA starts, then the physical violence began. 3 occasions he attacked me until on the last one I suffered a concussion and I said "get the fuck out of my house". He begged and pleaded and cried and said he would change. He did. The EA and violence stopped over night. Just like that 😐.

Over the time of the EA stopping he got a secure job and settled into it. During our time of living together I've noticed when he becomes angry/hurt he shuts down and becomes very defensive, even with the smallest argument's. He belittles, manipulates and mocks. So I've come to realise the EA didn't stop altogether. This has pushed me away. I've recently become quite involved with a new interest and he's taken it as a threat in some way.

Over the past month it's come into my awareness that I haven't been happy at all, I've just suppressed feelings for an easy life. I can forgive him for what he's done to me in the past but I don't FULLY trust him if I'm honest (with regards to the violence).

We both know he has a lot of inner work to be done, he suffers with childhood PTSD which has completely and utterly effected who he is and he's only come to realise this whilst being with me.

I'm the type of person who loves very much, I can argue, like everybody but I never ever get personal or abusive. I'm a very kind and gentle being and I feel we are quite the opposite. He likes to attack as a way of defensiveness and I do not. Even when we have my niece I feel I'm walking in eggshells because when she becomes loud he can't handle the noise level and I see him go into some kind of irritable sulk.

Okay so you have the jist of what's happened. I'll take you to present.

I currently feel emotionally unavailable to this man at the moment, any type of affection is making me feel uncomfortable. I'm not feeling the loving feelings within. I do to a degree but they could possibly just be pitty because I see I'm breaking his heart.

He knows how I feel and for his own sake he's given me until this Friday to make my mind up. I do feel very withdrawn but on the other hand I have conflicting feelings that I'm going to be possibly making a mistake 😖.

He has PROMISED and swore he will work on himself, he said "Do you think I like the person I am?". This morning he has said he's having suicidal thoughts because of what is going on, if that's true and he is I'm sorry but because of the person he currently is I can't help feel that, that again is another form of manipulation. He also said "I dumped my whole life for us!" True but the way he is is not my problem, his behaviours are his to keep, not mine.
He said "I'm being cruel" again, I'm sorry if I am but this I feel is the result of me being pushed. He does love me very much that's also plain to see.

So right now I'm confused, two conflicting feelings in my heart, on one hand I want to finish this and start the new beginning of life (late but oh well (27)) and on the other hand I'm dreading making the biggest mistake of my life. I've literally sat and prayed for an answer (to who/what I don't know).

Apologies for this long post. I've been crying for 2 weeks straight because I can see this is hurting him and me also.

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Gide · 29/03/2018 22:47

Don’t believe his bollocks. Suicide threats are common when an abuser feels he’s losing control, so I’ve learnt from being on here! If you’re renting in your name only, pack his shit and send him out when he gets back. Why are you putting up with his controlling and abusive behaviour?

Gemini69 · 29/03/2018 22:48

kick him out.. and don't fall for the 'woe is me crap' he's a grown man with issues.. Christ you'd be lucky to find an adult who doesn't have issues... get rid of him Lady.. you deserve better Flowers

Gloryificus · 29/03/2018 22:51

You can do this.
Gather up some support speak out loud about how he has treated you
Remain silent no longer. Verbalise the past 2 years of your life
You will heal and become stronger away from him, you deserve better than him!

Satnam11 · 29/03/2018 22:51

Something tells me he won't be back tonight.

I'm sorry I'm not going to throw a drunk man out in the pissing rain at whatever time of the morning it is. I dont have that sort of heart. That isn't me. He will be leaving but in more suitable way.

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Satnam11 · 29/03/2018 22:53

I will do Gloryificus thank you. I definitely could do with some counseling

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Satnam11 · 29/03/2018 22:53

... to say the least 😂

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Gemini69 · 29/03/2018 22:58

I suspect he knows you won't kick him out... he always knew.. he plays on your gentle kind nature.. plays the little wounded boy.. and you come running with a plaster and hugs... he needs to get a bloody grip.. he sound utterly cringing Flowers

Gemini69 · 29/03/2018 22:59

don't leave your home either... make him go.. whenever that may be Flowers

Satnam11 · 29/03/2018 23:08

Yeah I suspect the same... He has been threatening to leave himself.

I'm certainly not leaving.
I love my home 😍
Thanks for your words ♥️

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HarryLovesDraco · 29/03/2018 23:09

Are you serious? You'd let him in your home drunk and with a history of violence against you?
You need to toughen up and quickly

Satnam11 · 29/03/2018 23:42

HarryLovesDraco
If he touches me I will letslnall eat my own pjyama top, my word on that.

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Satnam11 · 29/03/2018 23:42

I will eat*

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M0RVEN · 29/03/2018 23:59

He’s a 31 year old man with a good job and money. He’s perfectly capable of staying with a friend ( I assume he’s not drinking alone ) or booking into a hotel.

If you let him back into your house when he’s angry and drunk, you are just asking for trouble .

Step away from the drama.

Satnam11 · 30/03/2018 00:21

Well he's come in and literally fallen into bed and is asleep.

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bunbunny · 30/03/2018 01:27

Have you got plenty of bin bags and boxes? I'd start packing up all his stuff in the morning so it's easy for him to move out...

Bumshkawahwah · 30/03/2018 01:32

I have to say, after promising to change, going out on the lash and sending you texts designed to make you worry he is going to top himself isn’t great. It’s not really doing what he said he would do.

Please get out of this. It’s just awful.

Walkaboutwendy · 30/03/2018 06:54

Right so what's your plan for getting rid of him today?

Come on you need to get a grip of this before he attacks you again. You didn't think he would do it last time did you so you've got to admit to yourself you don't know him the way you think you do. He's unpredictable, manipulative and violent. In short dangerous to your physical and mental health.

He has places to go. He could go to a travel lodge until he finds a house share. He's got a job, he can pay for it himself. He just doesn't want to.

Don't baby him. He survived before you came along and he will do so after you've split up.

So what's the plan OP?

Dozer · 30/03/2018 08:50

You don’t have the luxury of “wising up” slowly, you need to wise up FAST and get him out of there fast and safely. Then ignore all communications. His welfare is NOT your concern and it doesn’t make you a good person to worry and do kind things for him, it makes you a victim who isn’t taking sufficient care of yourself.

Seek help from a womens organisation and start the Freedom Programme.

He has a job so has money: not at all hard for him to rent a room somewhere fast.

Dozer · 30/03/2018 08:51

Get some people to come round to be with you, pack up all his stuff and put it in one room, ask him to leave today and collect it all within a week.

Satnam11 · 30/03/2018 09:56

Morning all.
I feel like absolute shit this morning.
Haven't eaten since yesterday morning (feel too sick), my heart is absolutely pounding and I feel hungover (I don't drink) 😩. Haven't had much sleep either.
My plan so far, is to tell him we are truly over today, I'm pretty sure he thinks we are still together for some reason. Even this is a massive step for me so please take it easy with me guy's. I'll then wait for his response and see if he has a plan in place with regards to housing, if not, I will apply pressure.

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cestlavielife · 30/03/2018 10:12

That isn't a plan.
You need the next step.
E.g. we are over you are leaving today..here is the address of storage place and hostel.

Dragongirl10 · 30/03/2018 10:13

Hi op, good for you, it has to be done and you will feel so much better after.

Get a cup of tea and try and eat, plan what you will say when he tries to change your mind/won't accept you are serious.

He is an adult, housing is his issue please see that, you are NOT his mother, he is not a child even if he behaves like one!

seventh · 30/03/2018 10:14

So you'll leave it up to him?

The man who treats you like crap?

Perhaps think about the logic there and then call your parents/a friend and kick him out.

Change the locks.

Block him on all fronts

And get on with your life

Walkaboutwendy · 30/03/2018 10:21

That isn't a safe plan.

I know you want to approach this slowly but be aware this is the time where you are most at risk from violence.

Tough love time but you seem to want to get out thinking somehow that you are the good guy and have done everything to be kind and help him. Violence changes any situation I'm afraid. Your life is at risk. You need to get real about the danger you are in.

You really need to toughen up and take bigger steps to protect yourself. You sound lovely but you also need to find some anger.

Satnam11 · 30/03/2018 10:23

cestlavielife
I dont understand why people cannot seem to grasp the fact I cannot and will not throw ANYBODY out on the street. He will be leaving, not in his own time but in a reasonable time under safe circumstances. When I said I don't believe I'm at risk from another attack I meant it. He will be leaving, yesterday I'd come to terms with it and I've already started the grieving process. I'm a mess today, my hands and feet are pissing sweat, I'm absolutely exhausted and I feel ill. I want him out by Wednesday, I think that's a reasonable enough time to arrange with someone.
He did say he'd move back to his home town if we was too split so he may end up leaving his job.
I tell you, I wouldn't like to be him today.
I wish I felt awake and fresh so I could start cleaning and keep my mind off things/go out but I feel like a bag of arse. I can't even hold down 1 coffee.
When this is all over I will be be undergoing a serious transformation with regards to myself and boundaries.
Also I watched the 'murdered by my bf' and I wept, it was so painful to watch.

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