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OH Begging me not to leave

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Satnam11 · 29/03/2018 09:32

Okay I'm going to lay this out so I can get an honest opinion off you guys. I'm ready for leaving but he's begging me not to go (he has no where to go, no family/friends).

We got together 2 years ago, he left his job and moved across the country to be with me. To start a fresh as he called it. He moved in on the 4th month of knowing each other (yep, I know, bad OP). Back then I was in a terrible confused place. Just finished with my fiance of 5 years, he was living a double life with another women (ex). I was single for about 2 months (this seems to be a recurring pattern in my life) before meeting current DP.

okay so he moves in all goes well for the first 3 month until the EA starts, then the physical violence began. 3 occasions he attacked me until on the last one I suffered a concussion and I said "get the fuck out of my house". He begged and pleaded and cried and said he would change. He did. The EA and violence stopped over night. Just like that 😐.

Over the time of the EA stopping he got a secure job and settled into it. During our time of living together I've noticed when he becomes angry/hurt he shuts down and becomes very defensive, even with the smallest argument's. He belittles, manipulates and mocks. So I've come to realise the EA didn't stop altogether. This has pushed me away. I've recently become quite involved with a new interest and he's taken it as a threat in some way.

Over the past month it's come into my awareness that I haven't been happy at all, I've just suppressed feelings for an easy life. I can forgive him for what he's done to me in the past but I don't FULLY trust him if I'm honest (with regards to the violence).

We both know he has a lot of inner work to be done, he suffers with childhood PTSD which has completely and utterly effected who he is and he's only come to realise this whilst being with me.

I'm the type of person who loves very much, I can argue, like everybody but I never ever get personal or abusive. I'm a very kind and gentle being and I feel we are quite the opposite. He likes to attack as a way of defensiveness and I do not. Even when we have my niece I feel I'm walking in eggshells because when she becomes loud he can't handle the noise level and I see him go into some kind of irritable sulk.

Okay so you have the jist of what's happened. I'll take you to present.

I currently feel emotionally unavailable to this man at the moment, any type of affection is making me feel uncomfortable. I'm not feeling the loving feelings within. I do to a degree but they could possibly just be pitty because I see I'm breaking his heart.

He knows how I feel and for his own sake he's given me until this Friday to make my mind up. I do feel very withdrawn but on the other hand I have conflicting feelings that I'm going to be possibly making a mistake 😖.

He has PROMISED and swore he will work on himself, he said "Do you think I like the person I am?". This morning he has said he's having suicidal thoughts because of what is going on, if that's true and he is I'm sorry but because of the person he currently is I can't help feel that, that again is another form of manipulation. He also said "I dumped my whole life for us!" True but the way he is is not my problem, his behaviours are his to keep, not mine.
He said "I'm being cruel" again, I'm sorry if I am but this I feel is the result of me being pushed. He does love me very much that's also plain to see.

So right now I'm confused, two conflicting feelings in my heart, on one hand I want to finish this and start the new beginning of life (late but oh well (27)) and on the other hand I'm dreading making the biggest mistake of my life. I've literally sat and prayed for an answer (to who/what I don't know).

Apologies for this long post. I've been crying for 2 weeks straight because I can see this is hurting him and me also.

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cestlavielife · 29/03/2018 21:55

Walk away a nd don t make it your issue to help him.
Let him sort himself out sone place else
He needs to go tomorrow

Mummadeeze · 29/03/2018 22:00

Just wanted to add that my partner went 6 years without being physically violent to me and then it happened twice in a couple of months so I wouldn't bank on the fact that he won't attack you ever again. With a certain trigger, it will almost certainly happen again. Wishing you courage and strength to see this through. Believe me, having children with this type of partner makes the situation a million times worse too. You have a really good chance of changing your future now. Lots of love.

Satnam11 · 29/03/2018 22:07

Mum's here now ladies.
Feel miles better.
I'm reading all.
Thank you for posting every single one of you, I can't thank you all enough 😢

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Satnam11 · 29/03/2018 22:16

He's text me...

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Satnam11 · 29/03/2018 22:16

I'm worried for his welfare

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Satnam11 · 29/03/2018 22:17

It reads....

"I'm slipping off the edge, my hanging by a thread, I wanna start this over again 😭"

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HarryLovesDraco · 29/03/2018 22:17

I hadn't noticed that he just upped sticks and moved in with you after 5 minutes. Very suspicious. What was he running away from?

Satnam11 · 29/03/2018 22:17

What the fuck do I do....

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HarryLovesDraco · 29/03/2018 22:17

Call 101 and report him as suicidal. Then turn off your phone.

OddS0ck · 29/03/2018 22:21

He's being manipulative, he just wants his own way. This isn't genuine emotion on his part, he wants you to do what he wants.

No consideration for you. Overblown language, sounds like a quote from a pop song.

Please look after yourself and don't fall for his manipulations. Try to take a step back, detach from all his drama and observe his attempts to pull your strings.

Easier said than done, I know, but immensely liberating when you can see what he is doing.

He just cares about himself, this is about him, not you and him.

MaryPeary · 29/03/2018 22:22

OP, you are very young. In a few years' time this will seem like a lifetime ago.

I'm not going to make assumptions about what this man is "really" like. None of us knows. But he doesn't have to be awful to be not right for you. You're supposed to actively want to be with someone because you like the way they make you feel, whereas the most positive thing you've said about him is that a) he's not as bad as he used to be, and b) you feel sorry for him. Come on - if you had a daughter whose relationship was like this, what would you say to her?

He's behaved badly towards you in the past and you need a fresh start and a whole fresh approach to your relationships. Get out before you end up with children in this situation.

RandomWordsandaNumber5 · 29/03/2018 22:22

Put yourself first because I don’t think he will.

MaryPeary · 29/03/2018 22:24

So he's texted you - it's still not umpire responsibility. If you're genuinely concerned then call the police and ask them to do a welfare check on him. But he's a big boy and he knows that people break up, so chances are he's trying to pull at your heartstrings. Best for you not to respond as it will only encourage him.

Satnam11 · 29/03/2018 22:25

Eventually got through to him.

Didn't answer for 4/5 times. Kept hanging up.

He answered and he sounded like he was in a pub. I said what did you expect to gain from a text like that???? He said I don't know it's the way I'm feeling.

I'm absolutely fuming.

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PrizeOik · 29/03/2018 22:28

Well, he knows how to play you like a fiddle...

Stop engaging op.
Ignore him. The more you play into this nonsense, the worse your life is going to get. Phone the police if you're genuinely worried about his safety.

Satnam11 · 29/03/2018 22:28

Now I feel like a dick for ringing.

I had images of him hanging off a bridge

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Satnam11 · 29/03/2018 22:31

I will ignore from now onwards.

Thank you all ♥️💜

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Daisymay2 · 29/03/2018 22:33

OddS0ck is correct. The text was a line from a song:

Simple Plan - Untitled (Lyrics) -Lyrics
… I try to make a sound but no one hears me
I’m slipping off the edge
I’m hanging by a thread
I wanna start this over again… More

So not original. Agree you should call 101, report him as possibly suicidal, and that you have split up because of DV.
Turn off your phone, and double lock all the doors, Change the locks if you can but give a key to the landlord!

BlessYourCottonSocks · 29/03/2018 22:35

Don't be so utterly ridiculous. Of course he isn't.

It sounds like the pair of you are enjoying the game. If you are serious about the behaviour he has exhibited in the past and your mother is actually there then turn the damn phone off, engage with your mother and then go to bed. Oh, and lock the door if it's your house. Stop posting on the Internet with a drip feed of wide eyed drama.

He'll find somewhere else to go.

HarryLovesDraco · 29/03/2018 22:35

He text you a song lyric?!
And you phoned him 5 times while he kept hanging up on you???
Stop! Just stop. Don't answer, don't call, don't engage. If he sends you anything that implies suicide, call 101 and block his number.

RunRabbitRunRabbit · 29/03/2018 22:37

You know how with most people you should assume incompetence before you assume malice or manipulation?

Well with him I think you need to turn it around. Every time you get a text assume malice or manipulation is afoot.

MaryPeary · 29/03/2018 22:40

Hang in there Satnam. You're not his mum. You're not responsible for him. Please don't play his game. It only works if you play too, so don't call, don't answer texts. There is tons of behavioural research on this - it's basic dog training! If you give him attention, he'll keep trying.

Gloryificus · 29/03/2018 22:41

Time to detach from wanting to fix/help him it's his responsibility to seek professional help for his feelings.
You are not the keeper of his wellbeing you do not need to keep him afloat. He is feeling sorry for himself knowing you are pulling away. He needs desperately to reel you back in to manage his ego.
His actions/abuse caused you to lose trust in him. He knows he is losing his ego boast.
How arrogant a person must be to hurt someone several times and know nothing happens/changes. He gets away with it walks away like its no big deal and then piles on the pity if you mention it.
'I hurt you physically but what about meeeeee'

Satnam11 · 29/03/2018 22:43

I'm such a dick.
My mum is here.
She's watching a film I'm in my room.
I'm not going to sit there and talk about ifs and buts with mum, what's the point? Waste of time.
I'm sat on the internet because I can't sleep!
I'll do that with regards to suicide.
Thank you (most of you) for understanding and being patient with me.

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Satnam11 · 29/03/2018 22:45

The call made me aware of his games. I won't continue anymore. Slowly wising up, I'll get there 😄

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