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OH Begging me not to leave

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Satnam11 · 29/03/2018 09:32

Okay I'm going to lay this out so I can get an honest opinion off you guys. I'm ready for leaving but he's begging me not to go (he has no where to go, no family/friends).

We got together 2 years ago, he left his job and moved across the country to be with me. To start a fresh as he called it. He moved in on the 4th month of knowing each other (yep, I know, bad OP). Back then I was in a terrible confused place. Just finished with my fiance of 5 years, he was living a double life with another women (ex). I was single for about 2 months (this seems to be a recurring pattern in my life) before meeting current DP.

okay so he moves in all goes well for the first 3 month until the EA starts, then the physical violence began. 3 occasions he attacked me until on the last one I suffered a concussion and I said "get the fuck out of my house". He begged and pleaded and cried and said he would change. He did. The EA and violence stopped over night. Just like that 😐.

Over the time of the EA stopping he got a secure job and settled into it. During our time of living together I've noticed when he becomes angry/hurt he shuts down and becomes very defensive, even with the smallest argument's. He belittles, manipulates and mocks. So I've come to realise the EA didn't stop altogether. This has pushed me away. I've recently become quite involved with a new interest and he's taken it as a threat in some way.

Over the past month it's come into my awareness that I haven't been happy at all, I've just suppressed feelings for an easy life. I can forgive him for what he's done to me in the past but I don't FULLY trust him if I'm honest (with regards to the violence).

We both know he has a lot of inner work to be done, he suffers with childhood PTSD which has completely and utterly effected who he is and he's only come to realise this whilst being with me.

I'm the type of person who loves very much, I can argue, like everybody but I never ever get personal or abusive. I'm a very kind and gentle being and I feel we are quite the opposite. He likes to attack as a way of defensiveness and I do not. Even when we have my niece I feel I'm walking in eggshells because when she becomes loud he can't handle the noise level and I see him go into some kind of irritable sulk.

Okay so you have the jist of what's happened. I'll take you to present.

I currently feel emotionally unavailable to this man at the moment, any type of affection is making me feel uncomfortable. I'm not feeling the loving feelings within. I do to a degree but they could possibly just be pitty because I see I'm breaking his heart.

He knows how I feel and for his own sake he's given me until this Friday to make my mind up. I do feel very withdrawn but on the other hand I have conflicting feelings that I'm going to be possibly making a mistake 😖.

He has PROMISED and swore he will work on himself, he said "Do you think I like the person I am?". This morning he has said he's having suicidal thoughts because of what is going on, if that's true and he is I'm sorry but because of the person he currently is I can't help feel that, that again is another form of manipulation. He also said "I dumped my whole life for us!" True but the way he is is not my problem, his behaviours are his to keep, not mine.
He said "I'm being cruel" again, I'm sorry if I am but this I feel is the result of me being pushed. He does love me very much that's also plain to see.

So right now I'm confused, two conflicting feelings in my heart, on one hand I want to finish this and start the new beginning of life (late but oh well (27)) and on the other hand I'm dreading making the biggest mistake of my life. I've literally sat and prayed for an answer (to who/what I don't know).

Apologies for this long post. I've been crying for 2 weeks straight because I can see this is hurting him and me also.

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Satnam11 · 29/03/2018 20:31

By the way he didn't batter me to unconsciousness, he pushed me hard, I fell over a chair and banged my head off the living room wall. Not minimising just correcting. Both as bad as each other however.

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Strigiformes · 29/03/2018 20:32

Just read your update, please just risk moving your dog and go to your mums. What if he attacks your dog when he gets home drunk? You are both at risk, if you can't get out for your sake do it for your dog.

Strigiformes · 29/03/2018 20:34

And just seen your second update, thank goodness you're going.

PrizeOik · 29/03/2018 20:36

You sound very confused and vulnerable. What was your childhood like? Where did you learn that you were worthless?

For future reference, never stay in a relationship with someone who assaults you. That's generally a good rule of thumb.

You really need to get real about some things:

  • words don't matter. Talk is THE cheapest thing in the world.
  • anyone can say and promise anything.
  • anyone can go back on their word.
  • ONLY actions matter. Literally nothing else matters.

It doesn't matter that he has 1000 sob stories. He's made it crystal clear by committing a criminal assault against you, that he is a dangerous person and you need to get away from him.

Alternatively - by all means, listen to his words and ignore his actions. Just understand that you will likely end up dead by his hand, eventually. Your best case scenario is that you "only" get emotionally abused for the rest of your life.

How you feel about him isn't actually Important. How you feel about his sob stories isn't important.

What is important is that he has assaulted you numerous times and has consistently emotionally abused you. That means you need to get away from him.

Stop sleepwalking through your life. Get real. Open your eyes - you are not a child. No one can save you but yourself.

PrizeOik · 29/03/2018 20:37

By the way he didn't batter me to unconsciousness, he pushed me hard, I fell over a chair and banged my head off the living room wall. Not minimising just correcting. Both as bad as each other however.

It actually makes me angry to read this.

Why do you think this clarification is relevant?

Why is it ok for him to shove you so hard you end up with a concussion?

Serious question.

RunRabbitRunRabbit · 29/03/2018 20:38

You are still minimising.

he pushed me hard, I fell over a chair and banged my head off the living room wall

He pushed you over a chair and into the wall so hard you got a concussion.

Your version makes the chair, wall, concussion bit sound like some kind of unlucky accident not something he did to you.

Lovemusic33 · 29/03/2018 20:41

I could have wrote your OP 18 months ago, he also moved himself in pretty quickly, became abusive (emotionally and sexually). Eventually it all blew up when her was verbally abusive towards my daughter, I asked him to leave, he threatened suicide and stormed off, when he was gone I got the locks changed and put all his things outside, I then called the police to report him missing and suicidal, the police were great and they put me in touch with local rape crisis and told me if he turned up to dial 999 or the police station direct.

He will plead with you, he will cry, he will make you feel sorry for him and as last ditch attempt he will threaten suicide, it’s all a part of the abuse. He’s messed up but you shouldn’t feel sorry for him, he’s not your problem and he won’t ever change. He might seem different for a few days or even months but you know he will snap again. Please make sure you keep yourself safe and please leave him/kick him out.

Satnam11 · 29/03/2018 20:46

Your all a million percent correct. This thread today and opened my eyes. Thank you.

My mum is coming to my house to stay with me.

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Gemini69 · 29/03/2018 20:46

personally... I'd be going NOWHERE.. his stuff however would be in sealed bags at the door for his return.. with a Dear Goodbye Flowers

Satnam11 · 29/03/2018 20:49

RunRabbitRunRabbit
That's not the case. I know exactly what he did. I was just merely explaining what happened.

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RunRabbitRunRabbit · 29/03/2018 20:51

Stay safe tonight.

TheSecretMole · 29/03/2018 20:52

You are totally making the right decision. The only acceptable level of abuse is NONE.

Sorry if this has already been covered, but are you renting where you are together, or alone?

Lovemusic33 · 29/03/2018 20:55

Glad your mum is coming over, my mum was my rock when I was going through this. You are doing the right thing xx

Satnam11 · 29/03/2018 20:56

I'm renting in my name.
Thank god my housing situation is stable.
He's still not home.
I don't care, just saying.
Wish my mum would hurry up.
I could be completely wrong, he may be absolutely fine and just go to sleep drunk.

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expatinscotland · 29/03/2018 20:56

You can never ever go back to this person. He has to be gone out of your life forever, because he can kill you.

Satnam11 · 29/03/2018 20:57

Thank you Lovemusic33.

To be quite honest, I think I know where I have gotten my "rescuer" personality from, my mum and dad are the same.

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expatinscotland · 29/03/2018 20:57

He's not fine. He is abusive.

Lovemusic33 · 29/03/2018 21:00

I am the same, I have had several partners I have thought I can rescue, the truth is these people can not be changed and it’s not our job to be their therapist whilst taking their abuse. You deserve someone who looks after you and treats you right.

BubblesAndSquarks · 29/03/2018 21:04

27 is not at all late. This will only get worse, the fact he only managed to hide it for 3 months says it all, its ingrained in his personality it's not just a one off loss of temper.

I wonder if his personality is the reason he had no issue 'leaving everything' to be with you when he barely knew you still. Shows a lack of normal attachments and feelings.

I don't know if you want/are able to have children, but imagine if you did stay with him and end up pregnant down the line. He would likely get far worse as he would know he had more control over you, and you would either be stuck in an abusive relationship which would be horrific for you and the child, or you'd separate and be forced to trust him alone with your child who would likely be treated similar as they got older.

Satnam11 · 29/03/2018 21:05

Lovemusic33 sorry to hear you went through that.
I've realised what you said the hard way. Deep down I don't believe he will change. He still thinks I'm in the wrong. My feelings apparently switched off over night... Yeah because I realised I was unhappy and explored the feeling. I'd been repressing feelings, unhappy feelings and gut feelings for such a long time. They came to surface (after doing personal development work) and I couldn't then ignore them.

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Satnam11 · 29/03/2018 21:17

BubblesAndSquarks
I know what you mean. I have dreaded ever falling pregnant to him, to be honest I always struggled to Invision him in my future with children because his emotions are all over the place.

He isn't emotionally intelligent at all.
He really needs help.

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Mix56 · 29/03/2018 21:35

"well you know I'm going to sort myself out so it's up to you!"
How do you know, is just his words.
Yes it is up to you, to say "this isn't working for me" You know this is true, you are afraid, you cannot forget, promises are just words.
You are over with this
Yes it will hurt for a while), you may be lonely, doubt yourself, second guess... but no longer scared.

Your niece is already experiencing the fall out from this.

Tomorrow is Friday. tell him its over in a public place so he can't punch the shit out of you
Go home, change the locks

GreenFingersWouldBeHandy · 29/03/2018 21:35

Please let us know when your Mum gets to you. We are worried about you.

Mix56 · 29/03/2018 21:41

sorry page hadn't' refreshed.

NettleTea · 29/03/2018 21:50

Im really glad someone is coming round to be there with you. I have been thinking back on this thread all day, especially given tomorrow is the friday when you were given the ultimatum to decide what you are doing.