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A thread to moan on until I’m rid of exP

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UnimaginativeUsername · 17/03/2018 20:30

(Ex)P and I are separating but we have to live together until we sell this house (due to finances). So I thought I’d start a thread to help me get through the next few months.

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UnimaginativeUsername · 01/07/2018 14:05

Haha. Good plan.

Im hoping that there can be no more than 3 weeks of fridge sharing with him. He’s taking DS2 to visit his parents for the first two weeks of the summer holidays and presumably I will have managed to move within the next 5 weeks (since, at this point, all the paperwork appears to be in place and it’s about agreeing dates and transferring money).

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RandomMess · 01/07/2018 14:21

Seriously do it just to piss him off and keep DS safe!

UnimaginativeUsername · 01/07/2018 14:39

It’s more the after the move that I’m worried about tbh. When I can’t be the butter police.

Not that I want to be the bloody butter police!

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FizzyGreenWater · 01/07/2018 14:48

You will come up with strategies, basically.

The eventual strategy, sadly, will probably be that your smart little DS will come to the conclusion that he doesn't like feeling ill for a couple of days after eating at Dad's, and will decide to see him to go out only, or not stay over unless he has breakfast in a bag with him, etc.

Ultimately it will be one of the many many ways in which your stupid puffed up froglet of an Ex will soon demonstrate to your DS that he isn't worth much of his time.

RandomMess · 01/07/2018 14:49

What contact arrangements have you provisionally agreed?

Ideally he has him a few days at a time so if he makes him ill he has to see DS unwell to hammer it Home?

UnimaginativeUsername · 01/07/2018 15:21

Every other weekend, with ex picking him up from school and taking him to an activity two days a week but him sleeping at mine.

Ex will inevitably lose interest in the week nights quickly as that’s not super sad opportunities. Then it’ll be EOW.

I’m pretty sure ex only wants the weekdays because he thinks it’ll reduce his maintenance. His bad advice men in midlife crisis club have been giving each other poor advice related to reducing their maintenance (including a misapprehension that they get to reduce the CB from the amount they pay in maintenance).

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UnimaginativeUsername · 01/07/2018 15:23

That’s term time. Ex is adamant that he must get half the holidays.

Again we’ll see how long that lasts when the reality sets in.

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AsleepAllDay · 01/07/2018 16:04

Bad advice men! Like the opposite of MN

Turnedovernewleaf · 01/07/2018 16:13

@UnimaginativeUsername

It sounds as though you've had quite a time of it and regarding new childcare arrangements it seems as though he would just want the fun times. So frustrating.

Sorry to hear about the butter situation. This made me cross just reading about it.

What is going on inside these mens' heads!!

My ex hasn't returned home from his night away yet. I do hope the watch was in his bag and then he will hopefully realise what a silly, pathetic ( could use stronger words) man he'd been ( and still is of course )

He probably won't want do anything with DC as he'll be 'tired '

Turnedovernewleaf · 01/07/2018 16:21

EX HAS JUST RETURNED HOME WEARING HIS WATCH !

TWO FINGERS TO YOU EX !!

DC "CAN WE PLAY"

EX "I NEED TO SIT DOWN, HAVE AN ICE-CREAM AND A REST"

MY THOUGHTS ... SO PREDICTABLE

UnimaginativeUsername · 01/07/2018 19:44

It is almost like you are clairvoyant @Turnedovernewleaf.

He’s such a wanker. It’s a shame for the kids that he’s so ‘tired’.

Ex did very little with DS2 today as far as I can tell: took him swimming (caused an embarrassing fuss on the squad WhatsApp practically accusing people of stealing DS2’s fins; they were just in the wrong bag Hmm) then to pizza express and then came home.

I went for a swimming lesson (I’ve decided to learn to breath properly so I can swim lengths of front crawl) and when I came back ex and DS2 were bouncing my exercise ball around the garden. Ex kept making moralistic comments about his DS2 (who had done an hour of butterfly training already) just ‘watching screens’ all day. Well, ex could have done something with him presumably. But then he’d need to have given some thought to what to do/where to go.

It may have had something to do with the fact that DS2 and I were watching minecraft villager news when he got in yesterday. But we were perfectly entitled to relax, especially as we’d both done 2 hours of sea kayaking in the harbour and he’d done an hour of snowboarding before that. How much more outdoors/exercisey activity does ex think is necessary (especially when he never does any)?

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Maelstrop · 01/07/2018 21:31

Given the amount of video games and idiot ex insisting on him watching the iPad in ex’s room, he is a moron for making those comments.

If it’s ‘your’ day, don’t let him take ds2 off to his room etc. Prep ds2 about this with nice comments re you wanting to spend time with him.

Please get a lockbox for the fridge. The ex is such a wanker.

RandomMess · 01/07/2018 21:34

The lockbox is all about inconveniencing Ex and making him buy his own butter and other f*cking condiments!!!

UnimaginativeUsername · 01/07/2018 21:49

I am browsing amazon for lockboxes.

Ex is cunning. He waits until I am making dinner and the co-opts DS2. In ex’s mind this is all totally reasonable but it’s not. I’ve got him on Sunday next week, so I’ll just take him out for dinner and entirely remove any opportunity. DS2 can come to my swimming lesson (he’ll be up for additional aimless pool time) and then we’ll get some dinner with DS1 somewhere.

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UnimaginativeUsername · 01/07/2018 21:53

I have never in my life had to protect butter and condiments. I’ve never lived in a shared house before. I’m
Looking forward to being in my own house where the contents of my fridge are just for me and the boys (and any visitors we might have).

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RandomMess · 01/07/2018 22:12

One brand was lockabox but I saw others!

Turnedovernewleaf · 01/07/2018 22:19

@UnimaginativeUsername

You are perfectly entitled to relax as you had done lots of lovely activities together. We all need a bit of down time. When I sit down with Dc to watch TV it's because we've been busy and just need a bit of a recharge however Ex always makes sarcastic comments. Whereas I know I've balanced their day nicely.
Ex on the other hand would have them watch TV / use iPads all day. So he can play on his phone or watch tele himself in another room

I hope your lock box search went well and yes in the future not having to share a fridge ( or anything else ) with ex is something for you to look forward too

shitwithsugaron · 02/07/2018 08:36

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Turnedovernewleaf · 03/07/2018 12:50

@shitwithsugaron..... I look forward to the day that I'm a single fridge user ( and sharing with DC of course )

@UnimaginativeUsername... did you find the box ?

UnimaginativeUsername · 03/07/2018 17:02

I have ordered a box. But today I have bigger frustrations. And I’m working through the utter mind fuck that is dealing with ex (who has me questioning if I’m in the wrong).

DS2’s birthday is in the middle of August. I will have him during that part of the holidays, not least because ex has elected to go to a conference abroad at that time.

After sea kayaking at the weekend DS2 said he really wanted to do it again and I suggested he could do it for his birthday with his friends. Later on ex agreed but said he wanted to do it before the holidays - presumably because he has planned a trip away on his birthday. I didn’t really say much to that (but apparently that constitutes an agreement).

There are 3 weeks left is school, and ex is taking DS2 to visit his parents on the 21st. So that’s 2 possible weekends. That’s 1. Not enough notice for his friends to be able to come; and 2. Not enough notice to book a bloody birthday party. So it was never going to be a feasible plan.

I spoke to the kayaking place today and (guess what) they can’t do the weekend after next. Who’d’ve thunk? So I asked if they could do his actual birthday and they can. I’d already contacted some friends to see if they would be about/available on that day (because I have DS2 and realised he’d want to celebrate turning 9 regardless, and it’s better when friends are involved). So I booked (and paid for) the party. All lovely.

I put it in the diary and ex is Not Happy. He’s stormed up to question me about it. Apparently it’s me being completely unreasonable because I went against the ‘agreement’ (which was more of a not causing a scene than any actual agreement - but this is a man who counts telling someone in advance that you don’t want to have sex, clamping your legs together, and crying as ‘consent’, so his idea of agreement possibly differs from mind anyway). I need to look at myself in the mirror and realise that I think it’s one rule for me and another for everyone else (this feels like projection).

I pointed out that: 1. There isn’t enough time to do it before the summer holidays; 2. DS2 will want to celebrate his birthday with his friends on his actual birthday for once in his life; 3. I have him at that point so I can choose to do what I like; 4. I haven’t asked him to pay for it; 5. DS2 never gets a birthday party because we tell him he can have it in September when the schools go back and it never happens (because the agony of trying to get ex to agree to and then book/pay for anything that puts other people first is too much); 6. Ex isn’t even going to be in the country on the day, so clearly this is about him and not DS2; 7. There’s nothing stopping him organising an additional birthday celebration for DS2 when he’s with him; and 8. Does he expect me to ignore that it’s DS2’s birthday on the day because he has elected to not be in the country?

But still, I am unreasonable. And he’s so good at gaslighting that I find myself wondering if I’m in the wrong for not phoning him to check that it’s ok for me to book something on a day when I have DS2. Also I’m unreasonable for not responding to him in a whisper because DS2 might hear (when he’s the one that stormed up, knocked on my door and insisted that I am in the wrong).

But, it’s not me, is it? It is him that’s being a total arse, isn’t it?

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UnimaginativeUsername · 03/07/2018 17:04

Other important information on the two weekends available between now and the summer, DS2 has at least one activity booked every single day. And ex had already asked if he could take him to a local video games and pinball event on the 14th/15th.

I did point out that I cannot magic up an extra weekend in July out of nowhere.

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RandomMess · 03/07/2018 17:13

He is an utter gas lighting arse, it's about him, he wanted the glory of the birthday party - irrelevant that it's DS Birthday!

UnimaginativeUsername · 03/07/2018 17:52

Yes. That’s what I think it must be. He doesn’t place a high enough priority on DS2’s birthday to make sure he’s even in the fucking country but doesn’t want to miss out on being superdad (while I do all the actual work).

It’s annoying as I’d never go to a conference on my children’s birthdays. There was a really good one in Edinburgh (so easy to get to) on DS1’s birthday but I couldn’t go and not be there on DS1’s 18th birthday. My children are more important than my career!

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Thebluedog · 03/07/2018 18:01

It’s most definitely him and not you Hun! But just think, it won’t be long and he will not even have a say in what you do with ds on your weekends. You can choose not to tell him and just ‘do it’

But you are right, you can’t magic weekends out of thin air, and ultimately it’s his choice to work on his ds birthday. So yes, he’s being a grade a fuckwit

Turnedovernewleaf · 03/07/2018 18:16

@UnimaginativeUsername : Not you at all

He is away, his choice.

No , sorry. I'm not a magician so unable to weekends appear from nowhere

This is the best option for DS.

Suggest he does something before or after he returns

What a complete and under prat . I'm angry on your behalf

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