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Husband & porn - please only comment if you can be helpful or supportive as I genuinely can’t cope

374 replies

Ifeeldreadful · 05/03/2018 07:05

I’ve name changed for this, as I feel truly dreadful, and don’t want this situation associated with the ‘regular’ me.

This is very long, and please, if you can’t say anything helpful or supportive, then please don’t comment - I just can’t take it.

My child seemed quite unwell. I wanted to check the symptoms online, but realised I’d left my phone in the bathroom from when my DD had a bath earlier & I’d caught up on emails. I couldn’t find the laptop, and in my panic I just went and opened the bathroom door and caught my Husband sat on the toilet ‘enjoying’ porn on the laptop.

He very quickly tried to close the window down, but I’d seen about 1 second of it. It looked like ‘regular’ porn, but I’m just utterly disgraced, incensed in fact that he was ‘enjoying’ any porn. I looked at him with disgust, and just said ‘seriously,’ before walking out with my phone and slamming the door.

I didn’t know what to do, but ever since then, I’ve wished I’d taken the laptop off of him and watched what he was watching - I just can’t cope with the betrayal of him using porn full stop, but then also not being able to see what he was watching is absolutely destroying me.

I also hate the fact that I don’t know if he continued to use the video after I’d fled the room in a clearly angered state.

I was physically shaking and thought I was going to be sick. I went and cuddled my child and tried to continue normally, in the hope that I could speak with him whenever he next showed his face, but I couldn’t cope. I went to our child’s bedroom and cried uncontrollably and hyperventilated, and couldn’t stop shaking. I wanted to stop crying and quickly get my child and I ready to get out of the house, but I failed miserably. I didn’t want her to see me like that, nor the neighbours, so I only managed to put my coat on and wipe my mascara from my cheeks before he came into the room.

He told me how sorry he was, and put his arm around me. I shuddered and told him not to touch me. I couldn’t look at him, or even in his general direction. My shaking was terrible by that point, and I burst into uncontrollable tears again. Our child came running in and hugged me and asked what was wrong & went and got tissues for me. I tried my best to stop crying and get my shit together, as I don’t want her seeing her Mummy like that, and for the sake of my unborn child. Obviously I couldn’t discuss/address anything with our child there, and all I ended up saying to him is ‘how does he think I feel for watching it in the first place, but when I’m 39 weeks pregnant too, and when I’ve hardly had a spare moment to myself like usual and he has done as he pleases all morning.’

He kept apologising and saying he’d been stupid. He said he’d gone on YouTube to watch something and clicked on another video, and then he saw that one and started watching it. He started blaming the internet saying how easy it is to access porn.

I don’t believe him however, and I’m convinced that he uses it regularly. A few years ago before we had our child, I came home early and caught him then. I went ballistic and was distraught. He promised he’d never watch it again. I have never got over catching him that time, and now it’s happened again.

It may sound strange, but a huge problem for me is that I don’t know exactly what he was watching. From the seconds I saw, it all looked ‘normal,’ and with female adults, and I don’t doubt the content for a second. I just simply feel I have to see properly what these women look like, and what exactly they were doing. It’s the unknown that I can’t deal with. I’ve dwelled on it over and over since the first incident, and always wished I’d demanded that he show me the video.

I went and searched the laptop history earlier, and tried to access his YouTube account, but funnily enough the bastard doesn’t use a password for that that I know. We know each other’s passwords for everything else. I tried a few different passwords and gave up in severe frustration and a sea of tears. I wanted to cut all of his clothes up!

I was ‘forced’ into trying to act normally as our child was there, so I think he thinks I’m handling this better than I am, but I can’t get over it. I couldn’t bring myself to sleep in the same bed as him, and I’ve been crying for hours.

I can’t handle not seeing what he watched, and the feeling of being lied to, and the betrayal of it all (including using an unknown password). I was really hoping I could just sit and watch it without him knowing, but now I feel that the only chance of trying to move on is if I demand that he sends me a link to the video and I can watch it in private (no way could I watch it with him there). I just don’t feel I can continue with the relationship until I can watch the content and try to come to terms with it all. The thought of him being present at our child’s birth and seeing me so vulnerable is repulsing me.

Do you think I should demand that he sends me the video link?

I’m honestly thinking of taking our child and staying with my parents as I can’t cope. Obviously I don’t want to do this and uproot her, but also because I want to give birth st our local hospital and my parents live ages away.

Please advise and comfort me. Thank you in advance.

OP posts:
Whisky2014 · 05/03/2018 20:13

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JaneEyre70 · 05/03/2018 20:57

It's not what he's watching OP, it's the fact he knows you don't like it that's the issue. And when you are 39 weeks pregnant, he's being very thoughtless. Your reaction is perfectly acceptable, and you don't have to justify it. I don't see any harm in wanting to know what he gets off on.
If he won't show you what he's been watching, there's an issue.

LesisMiserable · 05/03/2018 22:16

He knows she doesnt like it, so he did it in what I guess he assumed was private. He didnt exactly expose OP to it, she (unwittingly) exposed him in a private moment.

He's done nothing wrong. OP said she didn't like it last time then stayed with him, so he could perhaps fairly assume it wasn't a dealbreaker after all. If she's not ok with it, she can leave him. The ball is 100% in her court here and she holds all the power to make that decision.

We all know very well she wont. Because nobody in their right mind would leave a man because he had a private wank in the toilet over an stimulating image, when everything else is good. Most people would snap themselves out of their sanctimonious mindsets and get their self esteem in check and let their partner be human. This isn't some mad corrosive sex or porn addiction.

SandyY2K · 05/03/2018 22:31

Would you be happy for your daughter or son to grow up and be a porn actor? If not, then porn is not fine.

There are a few jobs I wouldn't want my child to do...doesn't mean other people shouldn't do them.

All this stuff about exploiting women...men are in these porn movies too...are they also being exploited? and I don't see where misogyny comes into it. That word is thrown around in the wrong context.

I can't understand why he didn't lock the bathroom door.

Many couples enjoy watching porn together...or independently...It's a choice and it's not a case of right or wrong.

SandyY2K · 05/03/2018 22:42

Men don't NEED internet porn at all, 30 years ago there was no such thing

There were no mobile phones...or internet...or chat forums either..., yet most of us would be losr without them...times move on.

and they got along just fine with their imaginations

Sallystyle · 05/03/2018 23:01
Thanks

I would have reacted the same. I do not need therapy or any form of help. Not for that anyway. My self-esteem is fine. I would rather be single than compromise on that issue.

It would be divorce for me. DH knows that and he was free to not marry me. He isn't interested in it, no matter how many posters try to tell me otherwise.

The thought of him using women who are highly likely to have been exploited disgusts me.

No one will convince me my feelings are wrong. I am very confident in how I feel about it and where my boundaries lie. A pretty good indicator that my self-esteem is just fine.

You are entitled to feel however you feel. It is no ones place to tell you that you are over reacting.

I am sorry OP. I hope you can work through this Thanks

Mrstobe90 · 05/03/2018 23:38

I'm really sorry but it sounds like your reaction does not match the situation.
Please think carefully before splitting up your family over something like this.

Perfectdisaster · 05/03/2018 23:48

Just had the same happen, I feel sick

PerspicaciaTick · 06/03/2018 00:31

OP, you have clearly out a great deal of thought and effort into crafting your OP and hopefully just writing it all down may have helped you clarify your next steps. Do please come back and let us know how you are doing.

Ifeeldreadful · 06/03/2018 00:47

I am sorry for the very late reply. I have had a maternity-related hospital appointment today, and have been very busy. My emotions have been all over the place too.

Thank you, thank you, thank you so very much to all of the posters who have posted genuinely helpful, and/or supportive comments. I’m sorry that I do not have the time to respond to you individually, I really would if I could. Some of you have written so much too in support of me, and I honestly, deeply appreciate that.

I have to admit that I was shocked however to see so many posters telling me that I was overreacting, and quite a few unsupportive comments, when I’d said outright that I couldn’t deal with unsupportive or unhelpful comments.

Oh well, at least I’ve had some amazing support and advice from some of you, and that’s what I’ll remember.

I’ve had a very up and down day, but those of you who have offered words of support, solidarity, help and advice are really helping me - thank you again.

OP posts:
BonnieF · 06/03/2018 00:55

It’s just a wank. Everyone does it. I certInly do. Not a huge fan of porn myself, but it’s not something I can lose my cool over. When you’ve seen one, you’ve seen them all.

You overreacted massively, and have blown this incident completely out of proportion.

Chill out and calm down. Good luck with the rest of your pregnancy.

Nanna50 · 06/03/2018 04:30

It’s just a wank. Everyone does it. I certInly do. Not a huge fan of porn myself, but it’s not something I can lose my cool over. When you’ve seen one, you’ve seen them all.

Apart from being utter bollocks how is this helping the OP?

Not everyone wanks and when you've seen one, believe me you haven't seen them all. Normalising porn is not 'cool'.

Jellyheadbang · 06/03/2018 04:31

I think part of the reason you’ve responded in this way is because you have found another side to your partner which you didn’t know was there, or that you knew about but tried to put to one side.
When I find out something about someone I love and it’s a complete shock, it makes me feel anxious and lm wondering what else I don’t know about them and what other secrets they might have.
I know that is because I had a very unstable and unsafe childhood and anything that makes me feel insecure really exacerbates those feelings.
I ended a marriage predominantly because of porn. I’m no prude, I have a very healthy sexual appetite but my exh was prone to secretive behaviour and some of his porn interests were ‘questionable’ in my eyes.
People clearly thought I was mad for ending a marriage over this and it has made it very hard for me to pursue relationships now because every guy I know seems to be a porn fan.
Most of my friends know their partners use porn, many of my friends hate it but turn a blind eye because it’s ‘normal’ and don’t want to be seen to be controlling or insecure.
There’s nothin wrong with masturbating, we all need a release but to be wanking whilst the wife and kids are in the house and going about their daily business is a bit grim but not unheard of.
You’re in the late stages of pregnancy, you’re also going to feel more vulnerable and likely to feel less attractive and then dwelling on what he was watching is a natural jealousy but it won’t satisfy you to see it, you saw it looked like standard porn and that’s all you need to know. You don’t have to torture yourself with the details.
I saw some of my exh’s vewibg history and I wish I hadn’t. If you want to stay with him you don’t need all that imagery in your head.
I hope you manage to sort it out one way or another.
You know now that he’s got this interest and no doubt has had since the last time you found out.
You have to decide your next course of action but only you can decide what’s best for you.
I hope your last week of pregnancy is calm and that this doesn’t spoil this precious time for your family.
Sending Hugs and understanding xx

LDH17 · 06/03/2018 04:52

I know you have said you are annoyed people are saying you are over reacting, so I'm not saying that, but I do think as others have said it would be wise to take a step back and breathe and calm a little before making any decisions.
I understand it must have been a shock seeing him. And with being heavily pregnant it probably feels like you have much bigger things to worry about so how can he be thinking about sex and watching porn.
But It was probably just completely innocent and he probably didn't even think about it in anyway like you are thinking. I have never caught my husband doing it but I'm sure he probably has at some point!
Don't get me wrong if he was doing it all the time I would be more concerned but if it's just the odd occasion then I would let it go.
Still though maybe just talk to him calmly and explain you don't like it and would like him to not do it, but if he even did again to make sure you are there etc. I really don't think you should move out especially when baby due soon, it's really not worth splitting up a happy home over.

LDH17 · 06/03/2018 04:54

*make sure you are not there sorry

Flobalob · 06/03/2018 06:04

I also think you are overreacting I'm afraid. I've never really understood people that act like watching porn is the equivalent to cheating or something.

It sounds like your husband's urges are totally normal and you're asking him to surpress them. That's not fair. I could understand it if he was doing it in public but he hid himself away to let off a bit if steam, like many, many people do (men and women). He wasn't flaunting it in your face or deliberately setting out to hurt you.
Would you ask him to stop eating for you? That's a normal human behaviour, just like having a wank. If I was with someone who told me that I couldn't have a private wank or watch a bit of porn privately, I would find that very controlling behaviour.

If you are asking him to never wank or watch porn then I think he would be within his rights to request that you never have something ever again that gives you pleasure. Would it be sex, chocolate, nights out with friends, driving, your job.

Someone for information me to stop watching porn or wanking would be a deal breaker for me I'm afraid.

I am hoping that your reaction is because you are so heavily pregnant.

Flobalob · 06/03/2018 06:06

Someone for information!!!! I meant "If someone forced me"

GnomeDePlume · 06/03/2018 06:20

If I'm honest the thing which shocks me is that you barged into the bathroom without knocking.

In my household if we accidentally walk into the bathroom when someone else is in there we back out apologising profusely and applying brain bleach for anything we may have seen. What happens in the bathroom stays in the bathroom.

For us the bathroom is private space.

But that just goes to show that we all have different boundaries.

My solution would be to get a lock for the bathroom door.

WantSomeSun · 06/03/2018 06:27

I don't think your reaction is extreme AT ALL. He's watching that crap with your kid in the house. Fucking creep.

Bet he wouldn't like it if you were watching porn either. Most men wouldn't.

WantSomeSun · 06/03/2018 06:30

Would you ask him to stop eating for you?

Well you would die for starters. Having a wank without porn won't kill you.

WantSomeSun · 06/03/2018 06:47

You’d think you’d just caught him having a threesome with your mother and sister with that reaction

This just goes to prove how normal porn has become. Incest will be outlawed before you know it.

sadiesnakes · 06/03/2018 06:48

@Flobalob placing porn in the same category as eating is absolutely tragic and pathetic, how very sad for you.Hmm

Catinthebath · 06/03/2018 07:00

OP, posters who have told you that you are overreacting are being helpful, albeit it might not be what you want to hear. There are a balance of opinions on this thread and I think that is helpful

NerrSnerr · 06/03/2018 07:03

It looks like that once this has calmed down there is a lot to talk about. Boundaries on both sides (watching porn with the bathroom door unlocked, coming into the bathroom without knocking), trust (is it normal to be that upset with not knowing passwords?) and whether porn is a dealbreaker and you want to leave because of it.

It's not healthy for your daughter to witness that amount of upset.

It gets tiresome on these threads that people with different viewpoints get called the 'cool wives' etc just because they don't have the same opinions of individual posters.

WhiteCat1704 · 06/03/2018 07:16

Personally I wouldn't mind my DH watching porn. I don't know all his passwords, I never go into the bathroom while he is in it...Sometimes I watch porn too and sometimes we watch it together. I really, really, really don't get the problem.

You sound controlling.