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Cheating husband? Help with WhatsApp please!

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betrayedorcrazy · 18/02/2018 10:41

I recently downloaded WhatsApp to my phone to talk to a particular friend who is not on Facebook. I knew my husband had it so wasn't surprised when he popped up in my contacts. I mentioned it to him and he said he hadn't used it since messaging a friend a few months ago.
I saw the last seen thing when I sent my friend a message and, being nosy, clicked on my husbands. I was out at the time and it said last seen about 10 mins after I went out. This was about a week ago and he seems to go on it once a day when I'm not about. He has an iPhone and leaves all his apps open but always swipes this one away. He has 3 old chats on WhatsApp but when I looked in the data and storage bit there were 3 more numbers - 2 saying 2 messages and one saying 1 photo, he has deleted them since I told him I have the app.
I then looked in network usage, and the status media bytes received is showing MB rather than KB as everything else does. That's a lot right?
I googled WhatsApp status and see that you can post a status that lasts 24 hours. Now I'm wondering if that's why he only goes on it once a day, to look for a status update from someone. There were none in there this morning when I looked, but if I do find one and open it will he know?
He seems perfectly normal and I have no reason to suspect anything is wrong apart from him lying about not going on this app. I have no idea what I'm doing with WhatsApp so would appreciate any info people can offer.

Sorry for such a long post.

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Prettylovely · 19/02/2018 21:06

It does sound suspicious, So sorry op Flowers

saveyourkissesforme · 19/02/2018 21:10

That's true, there could be texts there. IME though anyone doing something covert would use an app like WhatsApp, delete (rather than archive) all messages and media (so that they are very hard to retrieve) and avoid texts which are so easily found on a bill. But then most WhatsApp users would also be wary of using WhatsApp illicitly also given that anyone can view the last seen status easily. Especially when their spouse uses it. The idea of using the service that lets you monitor when both of them are online is a great one. It will give you hard data on the woman you've mentioned. But then adding her to your contacts list will let you check her last seen status too.

If he is using it illicitly surely he would be checking your online status too though periodically if he's concerned about being caught.

Queenofthedrivensnow · 19/02/2018 21:11

So what was in the frequent contact ta on his whatsapp?

saveyourkissesforme · 19/02/2018 21:13

I might have missed this somewhere Bloody but surely if he deletes the threads to her then the info won't be retained in the storage stats.

betrayedorcrazy · 19/02/2018 21:22

I'm not that familiar with WhatsApp but when I clicked on the chat page there are 3 conversations. I went on the data storage thing and the were 6 ( the 3 from the chat page and 3 other numbers). Those additional 3 have since vanished.
Including this woman's. Im not being horrible but she is not attractive at all and I can't imagine he would chose her to fuck his life up for. But then I could be wrong! I really don't know why he would text her though, I'm not sure he ever really spoke to her at school.
I'm halfway through the bill and have a few numbers to check. He uses his phone for work calls so I am just looking at texts at the moment.
I still feel a bit of a twat having all these suspicions from a once a day WhatsApp check in. But I've never had this horrible feeling before :(

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saveyourkissesforme · 19/02/2018 21:28

That's a horrible feeling to have. I can understand why you need to get to the bottom of it.
The once a day thing doesn't make sense to me. The fact that he's looking at whatsapp when you're not there is clearly odd. But once a day?

betrayedorcrazy · 19/02/2018 21:31

I know. It's weird. It's the fact he's doing it when I'm not there and then swiping tha app away. Everything else he's been on is open. He's just opened a bottle of whisky so I expect he will fall asleep soon. I'm dying to get my hands on that phone!

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Bloodyuselessatthinkingofaname · 19/02/2018 21:37

saveyourkisses yes they will not show if he has deleted ....

betrayed have you looked at what is archived ? If it is an i phone swipe down of the page of chats and you will be then able to see them.

Bloodyuselessatthinkingofaname · 19/02/2018 21:40

I dont know why cheating guys just don't switch off the "last seen " status ....probably though because they then can't see other people's last seen and they want to be in control or try to be.

MotherofaSurvivor · 19/02/2018 21:48

Have you had a nosey on the Mum from school's Fb Page? Is she single? Any statuses viewable? Any that hint at a new love interest? X

saveyourkissesforme · 19/02/2018 21:49

Just the act of turning it off is a bit suspect anyway. I know that some people do it for legitimate reasons but I've also known people do it specifically to hide what they're doing. It's not common to turn it off. I know of only three people that do it and two of them have definitely got something to give.

betrayedorcrazy · 19/02/2018 21:51

I had a quick swipe and there was one archived message. Looks like it was a family chat he set up with the kids. I'll have a proper look later.
I only deleted this woman about a year ago from Facebook when I had a clear out as I haven't seen her in ages. Last I knew she had cheated on her husband and got pregnant by the other bloke, and is with him now. Classy bird!

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Bloodyuselessatthinkingofaname · 19/02/2018 21:58

I would wait and observe betrayedorcrazy

Browtox · 19/02/2018 22:04

If I were flirting on whatsapp I’d delete messages and disable photo back up. I have no notifications because work and people looking.

forumdonkey · 19/02/2018 22:08

I've just tried the ranking thing and you should be aware my top ranking is an exbf who I've not messaged in a year but due to messages and media sent in the few years we were together he's still ranked at the top.

CornforthWhite · 19/02/2018 22:08

I've turned my last seen off as I have a crazy friend who messages and messages.
I love her but she is someone who just can't know when I'm online! So it isn't always an affair!
On reading this thread I've also taken off the preview. I keep my phone on my desk at work as sometimes nursery calls and I don't like it when random colleagues can read my previews. This is genius!
However, hubby knows all my passwords. X

cod · 19/02/2018 22:11

Christ. Mine doesn’t. Thank god

Bloodyuselessatthinkingofaname · 19/02/2018 22:11

forumdonkey yes the contacts with heavy media /attachments image will rank highly but individually it provides a breakdown which can be useful .

forumdonkey · 19/02/2018 22:11

@CornforthWhite you will still show as being online. Just your last time online won't

userxx · 19/02/2018 22:17

Yep, forumdonkey is correct.

CornforthWhite · 19/02/2018 22:19

Yes sorry I know. I mean I don't want her to know if I've been on WhatsApp after she sent a message. Because it opens the flood gates. She's lovely really!

userxx · 19/02/2018 22:21

Just a text pest!

Emboo19 · 19/02/2018 22:23

If you go into data and storage and look at network usage, that tells you how many messages have been sent in total, not to who. At the bottom it will say reset statistics and date of last reset: that gives a idea of how many messages he’s sending and if his statistics have recently been re set, I’d think he’s covering his tracks and pretty savvy about it.

The storage usage for individual chats only shows until the chats been deleted.

You can also have a look at battery usage and it will say how much battery has been used on WhatsApp. And on if you click it tells you how many mins on screen and how many in background.

If you get to look at his phone, those things should give some idea as to how often he’s actually using it.

MotherofTerriers · 19/02/2018 22:31

Try not to let him realise you are suspicious, and take your time. It took me weeks to get solid proof.

sparkleandsunshine · 19/02/2018 22:31

Oh poor you, I’ve had that feeling before and it turned out the lad was cheating on me, The whole other school mums number is plain weird, totally get why you’re thinking somethings going on x

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