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Feel terrible. Am I an awful person?

257 replies

Oldsunset1 · 23/01/2018 07:26

Been with my partner for ten years. On many levels he is a great person - kind generous, same interests as me, hoodsith my friends and family.

But the bad side is I feel all major life decisions have been put off or stalled because of him refusing to be upfront - not buying a house, not getting engaged. I gave him an ultimatum a few years ago and regularly bring it up but he just says soonsnd it's really got to me. I feel so upset. In addition his family have openly said they hope he stays single, I've been excluded from events and he makes no effort to stick up for me. In actual fact he still goes out of his way to keep in touch and have a good relationship with them knowing how they've behaved and continue to behave to me. I feel this is so disloyal to me.

Last weekend my best friend got engaged. Her partner put some thought and effort into it. They've been going out for 18 months. It's brought it home to me how shit things are with my DP. I think he's finally realised I've had enough and has said he is going to get a ring. I just don't see the point. If you have to convince and beg someone to marry you what's the point anymore. He said he was going to go with his friend today to find one. He doesn't even know what I like despite telling him in the past. Last night I wrote his friend and him a long email. I was so angry, I told them not to bother and said some awful things about him and his family.

I've woken up today and I feel terrible. I don't recognise who I am anymore and I feel so sad. I don't know what I'm asking for really. I just feel frightened and alone.

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BerkInBag · 23/01/2018 12:43

I can feel myself changing. I used to be bright and optimistic and now I'm often really sad and cynical about everything.

He's done that to you and his family. Imagine marrying him and signing up to a future where you they will just erode your confidence and optimism and generally suck all the joy out of your life.

I actually started this thread because I woke up feeling sick about the email I sent last night. I have never felt the need to drag other people into a messy situation nor publicly air my dirty laundry like that nor trash someone so viciously in front of their friend. I feel like really something has gone so very badly wrong with me.

What's happened here is that you have reached rock bottom and lashed out. Nothing's gone badly wrong with you that can't be fixed by leaving this person and finding someone who wants you and has the same aspirations as you re family, marriage etc. Imagine, a new person might also have a family that utterly thrilled that you are in his life and want to make you part of their family.

BerkInBag · 23/01/2018 12:43

Apologies for all typos, lack of punctuation etc

OliviaBenson · 23/01/2018 12:49

The starting smoking thing is interesting- it's almost like you are punishing yourself/your body for this. Even your worries about what you said in that email, you are punishing yourself for that even though many people would have snapped a long time a go.

Block him, bag up his stuff and leave it on the door step and I'd really recommend some counselling. Can you talk to your best mate about this?

You will get through this op.

phoenix1973 · 23/01/2018 12:55

Do you live together?
You've got no kid?
What the fuck are you waiting for?
Leave.
Onwards and upwards. You're wasting your time with that one.
Crack on, dust yourself down, get back out there. Go fishing, you've got to wade through many sprats before you get a carp! No time to waste x x x

PoorYorick · 23/01/2018 13:01

The smoking thing sounds like misplaced rebellion to me. OP, if you're going to rebel, do it constructively. Do not put up with this waste of space any longer. Ditch him and move on, now THAT'S rock and roll. Experiment with your creativity, with your sexuality (in ways you're happy with), with your career, just please get your feet out of this cement bucket while you're still young. If I find out you've turned 40 and are still buying the empty bleating of this hopeless, relationship-go-nowhere 54-year-old, I'm going to cry buckets and start screaming, so please do it for ME if not yourself.

BerkInBag · 23/01/2018 13:41

What's happened here is that you have reached rock bottom and lashed out.

I should have added that he has dragged you to rock bottom after years of treating you as a bolt-on to his life. He may have made you feel integral to his life on some superficial level but fundamentally this is not the truth. If it was you wouldn't be here.

Gazelda · 23/01/2018 15:11

OP, honestly, today is the first day of the rest of your life. You can take control, decide what you want to do with your life and you can make it happen.

StormTreader · 23/01/2018 15:13

I have never felt the need to drag other people into a messy situation nor publicly air my dirty laundry like that nor trash someone so viciously in front of their friend.

I wonder whether that was just your desperation to be really HEARD. You've been brushed off for so long with "yes yes, there there" words that resulted in no changes at all, it wouldnt surprise me if there wasnt an element of "THERE! Try and go back to pretending that this never happened now your friend knows all about it as well!"

taskmaster · 23/01/2018 16:07

It's not the mans fault altogether, OP has her own agency and has made her own decisions. Lets not blame him for everything, its not helpful to the OP to pretend she is a helpless puppet and he is pulling the strings.

OP you need to apologise to the friend, they did not deserve being dragged into your problems. It wasn't fair and they deserve an apology.

Oldsunset1 · 23/01/2018 16:18

taskmaster I'm not blaming him for everything and I recognise I've made my own decisions to continue like this

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taskmaster · 23/01/2018 16:20

I don't think you are, OP, I think other posters are doing that on your behalf though. It makes them sound nice but its totally unhelpful to you.

Oldsunset1 · 23/01/2018 16:21

OP you need to apologise to the friend, they did not deserve being dragged into your problems. It wasn't fair and they deserve an apology.

What do you want me to apologise for? I recognise I made a fool of myself and should not have said what I said. But apart from saying that they would be wasting my time accompanying my partner as I was no longer interested and please not to get involved in this farce the rest of it was directed at my partner.

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taskmaster · 23/01/2018 16:24

sending him an email ranting about your partner and his family? Why would you not apologise for that?

mamahanji · 23/01/2018 16:28

Op you have nothing to apologise for. Ignore that stupid advice and just focus on how you are going to bring yourself back up now that you are no longer being dragged down.

You're not an awful person in the slightest. He was for playing you around like that for so bloody long and then to make such a half assed attempt would have sent most people over the edge to snap!

Just focus on you and moving away from him and towards what you want.

taskmaster · 23/01/2018 16:30

Its not stupid advice. OP posted because she felt bad about it, because she has a reason to. She will feel better about it if she apologises and uses this to finally move on from a long series of very bad decisions.

Oldsunset1 · 23/01/2018 16:32

i see your point but I'm not going to apologise. I don't have the energy to engage directly with either of them at the moment. And whilst i feel like it wasn't a very classy thing to do and felt anxious this morning, i still feel and mean all the things I said.

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Oldsunset1 · 23/01/2018 16:33

If anything I suppose I feel like I should apologise to my partner but I'm certainly not going to do that.

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taskmaster · 23/01/2018 16:33

I'm sure you do, but you know you said them to the wrong person!

PNGirl · 23/01/2018 16:36

The friend is irrelevant. I would imagine he is mainly the partner's friend and is unlikely to have anything to do with OP in the future.

Oldsunset1 · 23/01/2018 16:37

He is. I've met him twice.

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whiskyowl · 23/01/2018 16:38

I really, REALLY don't think you owe anyone an apology, and certainly not right now. Some things can wait, this is one of them. You have bigger things to be concerned with right now, like leaving this twit of a bloke. I think any friend worth their salt would completely understand an email like that at a moment of relationship crisis, and wouldn't make a big deal out of it. I certainly wouldn't with any one of my close friends - I'd just be concerned about the person and wanting to help however I could.

Angelf1sh · 23/01/2018 16:51

Haven’t read anything except your first post so things may have moved on but end it. You’re completely wasting your time here. He doesn’t want to marry you and doesn’t care how that makes you feel. He doesn’t love you. End it.

Cambionome · 23/01/2018 16:59

You don't need to apologise to anyone op. Your dp is the one who ought to be apologising to you!

Move on with your head held high! Flowers

Oldsunset1 · 23/01/2018 20:00

I received this message today at 6.

"I will call you this evening . I need some time to be on my own but I will call you. I understand our relationship is very toxic and abusive. It is not getting any better and my actions only make continue to add to all the bad things I have done and make things worse and worse. I can't keep doing this to you and promising to change and not change . It is a very unhappy relationship with no trust and it has been very bad for your mental health . We have to stop and move on with our lives. I'm sorry I could not give you the relationship you want and deserve. I will call you."

So far so no call. I fell asleep for the last two hours. I guess this is pretty much the end.

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apacketofcrisps · 23/01/2018 20:04

Doc after everything he sent you a message dumping you?!? Are your eyes open NOW op?

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