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NC Dignity Club Pt 4: The Only Way Is Up

998 replies

Basseting · 20/01/2018 17:31

Welcome to the No Contact Dignity Club Part 4

If you are aiming for it, trying to maintain it, being 'offered' it, coming back to it... NC support is here!

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JesusChristFenton · 23/01/2018 10:50

HE JUST MESSAGED ME!

What?!

NK1cf53daaX127805d4fd5 · 23/01/2018 10:58

Jesus - what did he say!!!

Enirroc · 23/01/2018 11:37

Come on@JesusChristFenton !!! Don't leave us in suspense...!

Unrelated to my NC, I'm now seriously considering going back to my maiden name and adding a middle name... What do people think?

gingergenius · 23/01/2018 11:42

Thanks all of you. Feeling quite low and didn't sleep well so got a case of the glums. Thanks for your support. Really appreciate it x

JesusChristFenton · 23/01/2018 11:50

It was a jokey/friendly reply to what I sent on Friday afternoon.

I’ve not replied yet. 4 fucking days to reply to me?

NK1cf53daaX127805d4fd5 · 23/01/2018 12:01

Enniroc sounds like a nice idea re: th3 name change. I never took my married name. Now I'm thinking in the back of my mind did I always know it wouldn't work out?

Ah Ginger I really feel for you. Has he contacted you since or what did he say directly afterwards?

Jesus I'd be ignoring that response anyway! The longest time my fella has gone without replying is overnight if he's fallen asleep or 4hrs during the day. The 4hr delay prompted NC number 1 because he read It, was online and took 4 hrs to reply. That was enough for me to start NC.

tiru18 · 23/01/2018 12:57

Thanks Icecream, that’s good advice - when I looked back at what I’d written I’m glad I deleted it. Although it wasn’t angry there’s no point in saying it, you’re right. It must be so tough having to work with him, I really do feel for you. But getting to day 12 is a huge achievement - I want to do that too!

OldBook, I think it’s not kind of him to share those Tinder details with you, he must realise that he has the potential to upset you. Why tell you?! I think you’re doing a wise thing in not going to the drinks, you’ll feel much better for that and you won’t be subjecting yourself to any upset.

Belonger, I’ve been where you are but not so successfully! Trying to maintain that aloofness by not initiating contact but my thoughts/worries always overtook me. I think how we use our minds is so key in all this - the temptation to think about them, analyse things, overthink things etc is huge but what does it really achieve apart from making us doubt ourselves (or it does with me). As you say your work issue was a much better way to use your head!

NK hope you’re feeling ok - you always sound so strong and determined! Want to be like you!

JCF I would definitely ignore that message - 4 days, that’s ridiculous! Don’t reply.

Oh Ginger, I’ve been in that situation with NC on several occasions and it’s always afterwards, when I’m on my own, that I feel so upset. But as everyone has said, be kind to yourself and remember that you’re trying to do the right thing for you.

JesusChristFenton · 23/01/2018 12:57

NK I couldn’t help myself! He apologised and explained why he ghosted me and that he regrets it. It had nothing to do with me, anything I’d done. Absolutely nothing.

I’m usually the type of person who will always go ‘it’s ok’ no matter how hurt I an but not this time. I told him how it made me feel. I don’t think he’ll reply again.

Whether I hear from him again or not, I don’t know. But I’m glad I know why, hopefully it will help me heal quicker.

Enirroc · 23/01/2018 13:18

@NK1cf53daaX127805d4fd5 it certainly would be simpler now. I'm thinking of going back to Miss, adding a middle name and going back to my maiden name.

NK1cf53daaX127805d4fd5 · 23/01/2018 13:25

Tiru determined I am but I don't always feel strong. He views me as a strong person though and that is important to me.

Jesus good on you for telling him the impact the ghosting had on you. Whether he replies or not, at least he knows how you feel

Teensandfuture · 23/01/2018 14:45

Oldbook
When I read about your male friend I sometimes think of mine too..
I don't pay too much attention as he's very subtle in telling how he feels but I suspect its similar situation ,just in reverse.
I met him on dating site about 5 years ago ,never met him as hes in London and I'm in Leeds. He was going through hard times financially so was unable to travel,we agreed to be friends. Wed discuss anything and everything,but sometimes he'd put a flirty or sexual remark in.One time I was annoyed and told him off about it,as we are just friends and friends don't do it.He stopped until last October-so for over 3 years.
October was a very confusing month for me relationship wise,felt unloved and down. One flirty compliment from him brought a conversation on,when he basically admitted he fancied me all these years (we never actually met in person-it just wasn't my priority),that I had huge effect on him emotionally and so on. And I thought why not to try and explore if it would lead to anything-friends,FWB,distant relationship,I was open to it but I think I just felt vulnerable at the time .
We agreed we meet up when I'm next in London for a concert,date was set,I was meant to travel. I was having doubts anyway but thought we need to explore . Communications between us became rare,less frequent-I admit I half-consciously tried to put distance between us.
Anyway concert trip was cancelled due to friend unable to go,and I admit how rude of me,I forgot to tell him as he wasn't messaging in last few days.
On the day in question he texted saying he's got a bad cold but still willing to meet up for couple of hours.

I knew I wasn't coming to London but somehow to me it sounded lacking effort from his side,as if he'd rather be at home then arrange a proper date (very selfish off me ).
So I told him lets not do that again and leave the subject of dating fr good.He seemed visibly upset and went NC with me .Only contacted me back on NY to wish me happy NY.

We picked up straight away as far as friendship concerned , I told him absolutely everything about my NC and my 1 year NC ,but we only managed to have a conversation about us on Sunday.

Apparently he was really looking forward to see me,got a present ready for me and everything(I feel like a complete cow now) and upset I didn't let him know I wasn't coming .He analysed in his head every possible outcome (he didn't say what he thought) but basically if we'd had sex,hed still be my friend exactly same way as he is now and he values our friendship so much,hed never hurt me and would never upset me.
I said if we would end up sleeping together ,things would never be the same as in I wouldn't be able to discuss my personal life with him same as now,and he said then its a good outcome we didn't meet up and didn't hook up because he concerned I don't have a friend to discuss things with (shoulder to cry on).
I said we should have discussed all this earlier as I want to know what he thinks,does he fancy me still ,does he have feelings for me?
He said it doesn't matter he has feelings(basically he didn't deny but not said anything definitive) and he wouldn't want to get into long distant relationship and I shouldn't see it as if hes not willing to put effort in.
The truth is for me I'm becoming encreasingly uncomfortable to discuss my personal life with him -ie who I kissed,who I slept with and if I didn't have sex and whys that. As to me it feels he does want to be more intimate (not sure what though?)
I have been avoiding messaging him since Sunday night as I'm not sure what to talk about now.

Ladies what do you think? Should I be more careful ,shoul I put distance in or should I meet up with him? I'm confused

NK1cf53daaX127805d4fd5 · 23/01/2018 14:49

Teens you definitely need to meet up with him so you can see if you have chemistry or if you're better off as friends. It has been going on far too long and I think you'd always think about him if you didn't meet up

NK1cf53daaX127805d4fd5 · 23/01/2018 15:49

Ugh. Need advice. There is a chance I might see him at the weekend. I don't want to say too much but it would be a family oriented thing so a chance to see people dear to me and DCs would be involved so time to chat properly.

But my tummy is swirling at the thoughts it, with excitement and nervousness and anguish. God I'm really not over him am I?

I think I know what you'll all say and I'm going to say it first. I need to look after myself and not go. It's clearly too soon.

Any advice/opinions welcome

Rhubarbginn · 23/01/2018 18:18

nk of course you want to go. That pull and excitement is so alluring. But if you do go, you will have to accept that you will prob return to the place you were at the start of the year.
You need to ask yourself do you really want to get over this man in which case don’t go. Or enjoy the thrill and go but accept and face the consequences.

Basseting · 23/01/2018 18:34

Enirroc
I wish I'd not taken my married name either. I wanted to keep my maiden name at the time as I'd had it for 32 yrs and it was 'me' but I thought he'd be offended. Similarly, I wanted the kids to have double barrelled surnames but copped out as he pulled faces. I wish I had. Now if I change my name back I will have a diff surname to my kids.

I've had a long day today (hosp appt which meant a 110mile round trip so I am too pooped to do individual replies sorry.
But for those thinking of meeting / sending messages - think on it overnight and see how you feel in the morning? I have regretted almost every msg I've sent and time is always useful? ((())))

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Itsalottery · 23/01/2018 18:36

teens I think you should meet him. You will never move on from it if you don't. It will kill it or cure it.

nk I don't think you should go. You are so strong and wise and this has the potential to set you back.

ginger I hope you are feeling ok about it now. How did you leave It? If it was just a one off then try to think of it as a fun interlude and get back on course.

I am still feeling hurt and angry but just have to live with that until it hopefully passes.

Basseting · 23/01/2018 18:40

NK wot Rhubarb said. With bells on! .x.x.x

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NK1cf53daaX127805d4fd5 · 23/01/2018 18:43

Thanks for the advice Rhubarb. It was spot on. I have found out he won't be there so I am free to go. I had decided not to go if he was going to be there.

Hope the hospital appointment went well Basseting

Basseting · 23/01/2018 19:00

How do you feel? is it better that he wont be there? (ie you can relax?)

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NK1cf53daaX127805d4fd5 · 23/01/2018 19:08

Basseting yes it's much better that he isn't there. I didn't want him to be there as it would be too awkward and I'd be afraid someone would notice as I'm not great at hiding my feelings.

I know will have to see him at some things, it's unavoidable but I don't feel ready.

gingergenius · 23/01/2018 19:11

Honestly feeling a bit shit.

Don't know why I still care about him after all the crap I've put up with.

Its just st me and my kids, who are (naturally) selfish because their superficial and naive little worlds just revolve around themselves.

To be fair he has said it's confused him too because we both thought it was over. Ironically we both thought it was easier when we were being frosty with each other.

I'm under stress because of project deadlines. My 16 y/o is tje font of knowledge on all things and I want to run away because I'm so tired of putting my needs last.

Not having a great week.

My work is really the only thing that makes me feel I'm not completely useless right now.

NK1cf53daaX127805d4fd5 · 23/01/2018 19:23

Ah Ginger you're just confused. At least he's saying he's confused as well so it's not just you.

Itsalottery · 23/01/2018 19:26

Try and focus on work ginger . It's very hard if it's confusing both of you. Is there a chance/ do you want to rekindle or is that a definite no. If definite know then you'll have to mark it up and try to forget it.

nk it's obviously just too soon. If you will meet up in the future then by then you will be strong enough to do it I'm sure.

Rhubarbginn · 23/01/2018 19:36

Well after messaging my nc yesterday after 32 days, I was light and breezy and cut short the conversation so as not to return to how it was. Prob took him by surprise.
Low and behold he messaged me today with news he didn’t really need to tell me. I haven’t replied.
Just goes to show as soon as they think you’re pulling back, they don’t want to let you go. Honestly, amazing how far I’ve come the last month. Weeks ago I would have replied and chatted for ages.

Enirroc · 23/01/2018 19:51

Thanks @Basseting xxx

@NK1cf53daaX127805d4fd5 that swirly stomach feeling, I'm having exactly the same about possibly seeing my NC on Friday. Isn't it horrible.

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