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NC Dignity Club Pt 4: The Only Way Is Up

998 replies

Basseting · 20/01/2018 17:31

Welcome to the No Contact Dignity Club Part 4

If you are aiming for it, trying to maintain it, being 'offered' it, coming back to it... NC support is here!

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Enirroc · 29/01/2018 16:47

Yeah, it's good. At some point I will have to check to see if he replied to me the other day though.

Belonger · 29/01/2018 16:51

Well done ginger!

And great stuff enirroc!

NK1cf53daaX127805d4fd5 · 29/01/2018 17:10

Anxious that's very strange. And he still hasn't unblocked you. Maybe you dodged a bullet there

Ginger well done

Enirroc much stronger than I'd be

Hi Teens. The only thing about your guy is he isn't 100% perfect as he's unavailable.

anxiousnow · 29/01/2018 18:32

Ok he replied. Really shocked. He is basically cutting me off. Don't understand his turn around. He had told me at the beginning that he pushed people away when they start to get close and he had opened up to me about a lot of personal things. But that is it. Over done not even friends. All those very personal conversations mean nothing.

Basseting · 29/01/2018 18:38

anxious
'I honestly would never ghost anyone unless they were abusive, and tbh I would still send them a final message. It is so cruel as all the why's drive you insane plus makes you feel worthless that you weren't worth saying bye to.'
YES! It is exceptionally cruel and cowardly.
It also makes you wonder if the closeness you had as friends was not worth much if it can be discarded so totally.
Sorry you feel shocked. I still do too. It IS shocking behaviour to be on the receiving end of.x (((hugs))) x

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Basseting · 29/01/2018 18:46

Coffee hello!
sorry you're feeling lonely. I am too and I think it makes us more vulnerable to pining / boundary issues. keeping busy and keeping social is the answer but it isnt always possible. x

eniroc how are you doing? waiting for a reply is the pits.x

Teens Ooof! sending good vibes to you.x

getting I'm going to have to scroll back for the underwear comment, sorry (this thread moves SO fast and 2/3 days out and its hard to keep up). I certainly know the 'things are so bad they almost sound like they are from a film' type feeling.

teens the who pays on a date thing IS tricky. when I met my MuseumFriend it was completely essential I paid for Lunch (not to him but to me). Erk.

NK how are you today???

sorry this is such an incomplete catchup but there is so much...
Grin

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Teensandfuture · 29/01/2018 18:55

Re ghosting :
Years ago I went for a date with someone from OLD.I immediately knew he's not for me,stayed about 40 minutes in a bar and had 1 drink, that was all.
Never led him on , excused myself then gone.
Next day he kept messaging me so i thought I'd reply:sorry I'm not interested romantically so I won't see you again.
I got abused back, was called an ugly bitch, was told I'm not even good enough as I'm a woman over 30 with kids and he can find himself childfree girl of 20something..

NOTHING before gave me an inkling he would turn abusive.
In that light it's definitely easier for me to ghost, but I prefer fade out slowly instead. Who knows what reaction will be for me saying I'm not feeling it!?

Basseting · 29/01/2018 19:07

Teens I can see why you would prefer ghosting after such a vile response to your courteous text.

cant speak for anxious but I meant ghosting when a man (usually) has led you on over a long time with enormous promises eg living together, marriage, babies etc and one day you never hear from him again.

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Teensandfuture · 29/01/2018 19:13

Bassetting
Yes obviously whole thing is really depending on the level of contact and would never be acceptable in relationship. Anyone ghosting bf/gf is a coward, they deny opportunity to discuss and improve/save relationship which is a very hurtful thing to do.
Hey I've been there! My 1 year NC guy basically done this to me..

Basseting · 29/01/2018 19:16

tis horrible, isnt it?

how are you doing today?

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NK1cf53daaX127805d4fd5 · 29/01/2018 19:18

I'm good today Basseting. How are You?

gettingthereshopefully · 29/01/2018 19:22

A huge, big wave to you all after a very busy day (and ongoing complications with my dentist, who is very lovely, but who made a mistake today which is going to cost me time, money and ease of mind).

I always feel that once I've got through Monday the rest of the week is plain sailing...well, mostly.

Basseting, OldBook and all you other wonderful ladies...the red underwear anecdote I told you about could become the symbol of all red flags. You know, the weirdest, worst thing is that they didn't even feel like red flags the closer I got to him because he was so fascinating, so bright, so stimulating and so very funny. He was quirky and clumsy and yet so terribly affectionate.

Let me think about a few more examples;

All women were capable of destroying what men had painstakingly built on a whim with their emotional overreactions.

All therapists and sociologists were a complete waste of time and did nothing but cause destruction.

That he dreamt of seeing me wearing more classical clothes rather than my hippy gear (huge exaggeration of my style Grin ) and that my red handbag was dreadful.

The last night we spent together he went on about other women, sexually.

Ooh, this one is surely going to rile you all. We had this thing where he would kiss my arms...the kisses would end up like very light bites. Honestly, there was nothing painful about it at all but because I am pale skinned they would leave marks on my arms. One morning after a really intense night spent together he looked at my arms with a disapproving look and say 'God, you're so violent'.

His ex was a monster, his parents were fools.

I could go on...

gettingthereshopefully · 29/01/2018 19:23

And then he would say how much he adored me and how hugely important our connection was to him and I'd forgive him for everything.

NK1cf53daaX127805d4fd5 · 29/01/2018 19:25

Oh Getting you're well rid of him. He doesn't particularly sound like he likes women, or any one for that matter

Basseting · 29/01/2018 19:26

Confused!

Mr Decrepit Old Man ('DOM'?) has not replied. Quelle surprise.
ExH was a prat over weekend. Tonight he does a 'duty call' re kids (both have some SEN issues and can school refuse, which one did this am. So he asks, and I feel I should 'report' as he is their Dad, but he makes it clear he is listening dutifully. He then speaks to kids for a while on my phone then says chirpily: 'good luck for tomorrow, I am off now for a rest and a nice relax before bed' which pisses me off as I have kdis 24/7 so I say: 'well whether it goes well or not in the morning its a bit pointless you saying that as I will have to deal with it alone anyway'. Cue him making hurt huffy sounds and saying: 'right I know not to wish you well in future then dont I'. Erk! AIBU??? (I also caught him going through my phone at the weekend. grrrrrrrrrrrr

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Teensandfuture · 29/01/2018 19:32

GettingRed handbag is dreadful?😂
I feel I'm in parallel universe, never had any similar shit told by any significant other.
In fact my 1 year NC guy was complete opposite. Would compliment ANY new bag ,shoes or clothes he seen on me , making happy noises with inevitable question:is that new?? And a pleased facial expression lol

Basseting · 29/01/2018 19:33

getting are you SURE he is not DOM? Shock

He also has form for everything being everyone else's fault/responsibility (except when he was sobbing about his 'sins' which he then felt 'cleansed of' and went on to repeat later that day...that was all his own quirk possibly)

the arms/violent thing is such a pure example of projection it could be in a therapists 'training manual'!!!

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gettingthereshopefully · 29/01/2018 19:36

Absolutely NK. He had this love / hate relationship with women. It was quite fascinating. He could be so gentle and kind and then flip to anger. His ex certainly sounds like she made his life hell once she'd left (with another man and with her kids who he'd raised for 10 years but never got to see again) BUT I know obviously there are two sides to any story and I can imagine that her side must be very different to his.

Well rid. Yes indeed. I was so addicted to him though. Truly I'm getting over him. Really. But last night I found this mind blowingly beautiful extract of a Bach Cantate performed at Versailles which I shared on my FB page. He doesn't have FB (no social media which is a point in his favour, really) but I suddenly had an urge to send him the link to this music because I know how much he'd like it. I just felt like sharing it with him and sending him a message saying: 'be happy' just for the hell of it. I didn't. But I felt the desire to do so this evening too, but, again, I didn't. It wasn't to get a reaction from him just because I knew he'd enjoy it in a similar way to me.

gettingthereshopefully · 29/01/2018 19:39

Basseting, does DOM live in France??? Grin

Oh, yes, everything was everybody else's fault. He was never in the wrong but I never saw him sobbing about his 'sins'. He was good at playing the victim though. Again and again.

Basseting · 29/01/2018 19:41

getting my NC ticks many similar boxes.

the biting arms/'you are so violent' thing is such a pure and classic example of transference (or maybe projection?) that it could be in the 'therapists handbook'!!!

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OldBook · 29/01/2018 19:41

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gettingthereshopefully · 29/01/2018 19:42

Yes, indeed Basseting about the projection thing! You're so right! In fact he projected many, many times. Fortunately I'm been round the block enough (haven't we all?) to not take his remarks personally.

What fascinated me is how he didn't even realise he was projecting.

NK1cf53daaX127805d4fd5 · 29/01/2018 19:44

Basseting your ex sounds horrible. Put a password on your phone. It will give you some privacy

Basseting · 29/01/2018 19:47

Oh, sorry. Repeating self. 1st sign of madness!

No, not France. His French is fine but not excellent so he would never go there as that would be unacceptable (not that he is rigid or 'owt...).
Oddly he is a Bach fanatic though....

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gettingthereshopefully · 29/01/2018 19:47

Yes, I'm sure he's a narcissist, OldBook and the worst thing is that my husband, who left me nearly 3 years ago was also a narcissist. I have absolutely no doubt about that. But he is so different to my NC man.

One thing I'm certain about is that he will never be happy with another woman. His behaviour was charming and loving at times but completely unacceptable at others. I accepted it to a point simply because of his brilliance and all the things we had in common (and the huge chemistry). I'm pretty sure the majority of women wouldn't.

That's his problem, not mine. I want to learn and move on even if, as NK and I were saying yesterday evening, it's not always easy to know to.

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