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NC Dignity Club Part 3 - Stronger Every Day

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SweetBerries · 08/01/2018 22:03

Here we go ladies. The place we come to do the 4 c’s - confess, console, comfort and consolidate. Every one of us is on a journey here but at the end of it, we become stronger better individuals who can be better prepared for future relationships - friends and romantically.

I’m so proud of you all xx

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gettingthereshopefully · 11/01/2018 14:58

Thank you so much for your suggestions and advice appella and Belonger! Reading your messages helps so much.

Appella, I have always thrown myself into things I'm passionate about; my Phd thesis, article writing, my own little company as an artist, textile designs, Baroque music. However, since my husband buggered off almost three years ago, I've had to buckle down to reality and go back to teaching as that is where the money is. I do it with zeal (give too much of myself away at times) and the students and I have a good, working relationship. Since my dad died a couple of months ago I've been learning to do things differently bit by bit. I understand that I need to start creating manually again, to choose my friends wisely and not give away too much of my positive energy to those who don't truly deserve it.

appella · 11/01/2018 15:12

'You deserve the love you so freely give to other people'

Zoo33 · 11/01/2018 15:13

@Belonger I'm not sure I can answer those! Wow, incredibly difficult questions.

I think the part of me that wants to see him is scared of losing the future we had planned - primarily children and the love I have for him. Going it alone means there's a huge risk I'll never meet anyone else, feel what I feel for him or will have left it too late for children. He made me so happy when things were good but so so miserable when he was sulking / angry / depressed.

The other part of me wants to move on, be me, enjoy life again and be happy. This part is also unwilling to let him have the power over me that drove me to try to commit suicide.

I feel like I'm balancing my desires (though incredibly confused) against the wishes of my family.

They've been incredibly supportive of all this, but (perhaps naively) want them to love (or even just accept) my choice of partner and I know that'll never happen with him.

gettingthereshopefully · 11/01/2018 15:20

Belonger, my immediate answer to your bloody good question (but I will reflect on it later) is that we are a family which communicates a lot. My mother and I had an intense relationship; both of us are artistic. Normal is healthy, yes, but to my mind lacks zest. I'm also afraid of a man getting used to me, the shine wearing off, being rejected. That's most certainly from my childhood, or my perception of it.

Having said all that I am prepared to consider a stable relationship as a good thing but it's going to take time to work on myself and change my emotional reactions to men.

gettingthereshopefully · 11/01/2018 15:28

I'm spending quite a bit of time at my solicitor's office here in France these past weeks (house purchase, inheritance law, financial transactions, etc.) I was dreading having to do all this stuff but am glad to have learned more about such subjects which don't come naturally to me. The solicitor (and one of his female colleagues) are showing me affection; plenty of hugs, kisses on the cheek, coffees. He calls me by my first name and teases me a lot whilst remaining very courteous. Of course, I'm no fool; all this show of kindness is partly commercial on their part, on HIS part, but, my instinct tells me that he appreciates me.

Why am I writing about this? Well, I was there again this afternoon for more paperwork. The solicitor behaved with the same enthusiasm, kisses, kindness, compliments. It makes me feel awkward (I manage to conceal it) although I know that, this being a professional relationship, nothing more will ever happen. But I'll confess it does confuse me. Certain signals he's giving out are befuddling my brain and hormones Grin and I find myself not sure how I feel which pisses me off because a lot of this comes from him.

I'm always good at keeping my emotional distance from married colleagues or adult students, for example. I never overstep the mark if I feel that they might be doing so. This solicitor exudes stability and is different for that reason. I know this will pass (it has to) but I'm not completely serene about him.

But, what I should be telling myself is that there is a pleasant connection between us which will could be healthy (I hope) or will not run the risk of becoming passionate or intense. Maybe his purpose in my life is to wean me off my NC man. A kind of stepping stone without consequence.

I REALLY must stop writing about me, me, me. It's just been one of those days. I am sorry!

Zoo33 · 11/01/2018 15:34

@gettingthereshopefully I'm sorry, I haven't read your whole story (this thread moves a lot faster than my befuddled brain can cope with), but I always saw it that taking an interest in another man (even just recognising a connection, however small, and enjoying it) was a positive sign in getting over someone. I hope it is a stepping stone for you.

NK1cf53daaX127805d4fd5 · 11/01/2018 15:34

Afternoon all. I think it's good for all of us to work out our thoughts out loud. It's a safe space here.

Day 10 is really bringing such clarity to me and less anxiousness. I'm now clearer than ever that the last message I sent to him really was a final goodbye even though I didn't know it. I think he has interpreted it as that as well. 'New Year clean slate' was what I said and he responded with a smiley emoji. And like that it was all over. To be fair it had never really begun again.

But I can't and won't let him dictate the direction of my life this year. This year for me is all about fresh starts and me learning to love me, not me with a man in tow.

NK1cf53daaX127805d4fd5 · 11/01/2018 15:38

I'm the opposite Getting. I'm going to try and get over my man by not going near another. Not sure if that is the right thing to do but it is the opposite of what I've always done (met a man to ease my aching loneliness)

gettingthereshopefully · 11/01/2018 16:20

Thank you Zoo for your post and yes, this thread is moving so, so fast, possibly because, as NK said we are all feeling safe in expressing ourselves in writing here.

NK, snap! This past year (post husband leaving) I lurched from one man to the next although I needed that phase to recover from my husband leaving. Now, I don't want to use a man as a plaster but get more in touch with my fears and weaknesses...AND strengths and, most importantly, self-worth before embarking on anything.

There's a difference between having my eye on someone and acting on it. One is more passive than the other. The most important thing is to keep my positive energy for getting my life sorted; house move, etc.

Belonger · 11/01/2018 16:29

Just got a text from him and deleted it Star

CariadAur · 11/01/2018 16:32

Wow Belonger

Rhubarbginn · 11/01/2018 16:33

Well done belonger! What did he say.
Day 21here, getting a little easier.

NK1cf53daaX127805d4fd5 · 11/01/2018 16:39

Ooh Belonger what did he say? He sounds very keen. Is anyone jealous Belonger is being pursued. I am lol

Rhubarb well done to 21 days. Fantastic achievement.

Getting you sound very self aware. I'm afraid I'm not as self aware when a man comes into the equation. That's why I need to avoid.

gettingthereshopefully · 11/01/2018 16:45

Belonger I think you may have become my inspiration! Wink

I understand NK. That avoidance? I used to practise it when I'd receive a message from my man. Sometimes I'd not open it for hours on end until I felt brave enough to subject myself to the emotional impact I would feel on reading it.

Hyannis · 11/01/2018 16:47

Lots of very familiar descriptions of the struggle here (thanks to those on my EA thread for pointing me this way) . FWIW I am at day 17. The worse thing for me is that I don't know if the last text I sent him ever got to him (xmas day) He was abroad with family - I replied to his text saying Happy Xmas (he initiated it) but then heard nothing back. So I'm stressing about whether he didn't get the text and is ghosting me because he thinks I didn't respond or if he's ghosting me because I haven't texted him since he's been back to ask about his hols! I suppose the good part is it's increasing my NC day count...but I'm torn up with the not knowing! Sad

anxiousnow · 11/01/2018 17:01

Appela So empowering of you to end it and you Belonger to delete. I am honestly in awe!

Bassetting do you have any plans for tomorrow? You can't let him ruin another moment.

Zoo just mho but you need space. He's got you in an emotional cloud and you can't see through it. Either way whether you want him or not you need some time.

I agree with so much of all of your posts. My NC was so intense the week before he ghosted me. All fine. Then he went away for weekend and returned different. I know it was to do with his family and not me but I just remembered saying that I couldn't handle him. He looked so sad and said that not many people could. Why did I say that? He gave me a hug said he'd text to arrange meeting up and that was it. Someone said before they feel like they are waiting for something. That is how I feel.

I get lots of hugs and compliments but none of them make me feel the same as when it's from him so I know he wasn't just any distraction from the shit going on around me. The sexual chemistry too. I have been out on a date with a really good looking man that ticks all the boxes but still just felt meh.

On a positive note I have started excerising and trying to look after myself. I might start yoga. Hopefully this will help body and mind. I need to sort my lack of sleep but not sure how yet. What else is everyone doing to help them feel good without their NC?

Teensandfuture · 11/01/2018 17:05

aww Hyannis it really doesn't matter if he got the text or not and what he thinks. If he wanted to be in touch,he would be.
NC is about you and trying to build a better life for you .It will get easier,I promise
Look at my post today, and previous ones on threads 1 and 2 -I sound like a detached person now!

NK1cf53daaX127805d4fd5 · 11/01/2018 17:56

App did you end things? I can't see a post on it?

appella · 11/01/2018 18:39

I did yeah. Seeing him Saturday. He didn't want to be with me either so it wasn't all that brave!!! He wanted to leave it hanging but I know that staying with someone who isntnsure is just going to lead to far more pain down the road... as much as I do want him back

NK1cf53daaX127805d4fd5 · 11/01/2018 18:51

Good for you App!

SweetBerries · 11/01/2018 19:08

Ladies I’m afraid I need your help tonight.

I don’t know what to do.

I’m confident enough in myself to post a few details here in terms of what I’m facing. I got NC’s child a magazine subscription for Christmas. The confirmation arrived yesterday and whilst I thought it would start this month it apparently won’t start til March. He’s given the child the present as if it was from him - as most of you know I never ended up meeting them so obviously it couldn’t be from me. This child will ok be expecting the magazine this month and realistically they haven’t done anything wrong to deserve not to have that. So I was going to just buy the next 2 issues and hand post them to NC to give to his child. I’d have to write a letter or something explaining but that seems weird when we aren’t in text contact and I ignored his last message on Monday.

What do I do?! I can’t accept him back into my life right now as a friend as I’m still in love with him no matter what he’s done to me, stupidly. But I can’t let his child go without.

Heeeeeeeelp.

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appella · 11/01/2018 19:21

Definitely not feeling brave or strong right now, just want him to give me a cuddle but he doesn't want me anymore. but I've made lots of plans and am making active effort with my goals! The sadness is there but I can still have a full life. I feel like a year of singledom couldn't be the worst thing (and the thought of anyone else makes me sick right now)

appella · 11/01/2018 19:21

Sweet I would just text to let him know it starts in March so she isn't disappointed? I wouldn't post them. Not your concern anymore x

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