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An update on my 'To top off my crap year...' thread

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October · 17/04/2007 14:40

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lou33 · 19/06/2007 21:18

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mummytosteven · 19/06/2007 21:21

f*ck me, you're not his mum. out of interest, does he have "mother" issues?

Dior · 19/06/2007 21:40

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lou33 · 19/06/2007 22:11

but you are not her and shouldnt be expected to act like that, despite the circs

Dior · 19/06/2007 22:27

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lou33 · 19/06/2007 22:32

it is something you could bring up in relate

Dior · 19/06/2007 22:48

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lou33 · 19/06/2007 22:49

lol

Dior · 20/06/2007 09:18

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mylittlestar · 20/06/2007 09:24

{{{{{hugs}}}}}

you sound like you need them today.

From what I can see it always sounds like he's trying to make you out to be in the wrong, or put you down, or make out that it's you being unreasonable... but actually I think it's him! He doesn't acknowledge or appreciate the good things you do, but is very quick to point out when he's unhappy with something (e.g. all the treats in hospital versus the card!).

Do you think you want to get through this with him? Do you think he could ever adapt his behaviour and start to focus on the positives? Or do you think it's better to call it a day?

Dior · 20/06/2007 09:27

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mylittlestar · 20/06/2007 09:29

You can only be yourself. And your partner needs to love you for who you are. You're completely right - you cannot live a lie pretending to be someone you're not just to keep the peace. So then he's happy... but what about you.

Dior · 20/06/2007 09:31

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mylittlestar · 20/06/2007 09:40

I can completely understand that. Wonder if he'd be prepared to put in the same effort to keep the peace and do everything just to please you? Probably not I guess. There has to be some element of give and take of course, but it sounds like you're the only one doing any giving.
You know him better than anyone and I think you sound like you're really getting to the point that you know what to do for the best.

You'll have to let me know how Relate goes.

lou33 · 20/06/2007 09:43

i think that's it, despite the problems he might acknowledge, he still thinks he has nothing to do with it, and therefore dior has to make all teh effor

Dior · 20/06/2007 09:44

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lou33 · 20/06/2007 09:48

but it isnt consistent enough

Tanee58 · 20/06/2007 14:26

Hi Dior, sorry I only drop in occasionally but my home computer broadband linkup is suddenly hopeless - think I need a new modem (whatever that is says Mrs Quill Pen Woman...) - so I have to catch up with you at work.

Yes, luckily we weren't the only under 70s at the party - it was at the 'birthday boy's' daughter's home so we had her, her dh & two lovely dds under the age of 10 - but it was the 70 year olds who were still going strong at 1am - the rest of us were dropping - hope I'm like that in 20 years' time .

Dior, sorry h is being a pain again - I really wondered why he has such a fetish about home cooking and housework - and then you said he lost his mother at 17. Amateur psychiatrist hat on now - do you think he subconsciously sees you as a mother-substitute? After all, he was still quite young when you met and probably still grieving for her. That would explain his striving after some sort of 1950s ideal of a happy family - perfect house, perfect food, perfect wife and child, with him, ultimately, at the centre. It might also explain his having gone off sex - subconsciously, maybe, it's because he thinks of you as 'Mother' rather than 'Lover' - and the weight issue is an excuse. Just a thought?

Having thought that, next step is to wonder whether he would be prepared to consider this - it sounds like he wouldn't, and to change. Might not be easy as it may be such a deeply ingrained pattern in his psyche, and of course, you may not want to be bothered with him any more, especially as you'll be wondering how long it is before he reverts to controlling, needy child mode.

Amateur hat off now - really glad you have a Relate appointment - you have lots to go over, with or without him - gosh - will an hour be enough?!

Dior · 20/06/2007 15:47

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Tanee58 · 20/06/2007 17:49

The counsellor was right - too right! Trouble is, he's probably going to carry on being defensive - and denying HE has any problem. But hopefully the counsellor will bring him out over several sessions. What do you think of my 'motherless child' theory? Does it ring true in any way?

lou33 · 20/06/2007 18:54

if he is anything like my exh was, he will use up 3/4 of the session spouting off about how he is the only wounded party, defending his actions and behaviour, then when i finally a speak, talk over me interrupt me, and say i was wrong

made me even more sure i wanted rid of his arse

Dior · 20/06/2007 22:06

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Dior · 21/06/2007 16:40

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lou33 · 21/06/2007 17:22

it will be ok

Tanee58 · 21/06/2007 17:36

D, hang in there. If my crappy modem allows, I'll catch up with you soon - otherwise back on Monday. Remember, we're listening (Frasier Crane smile) .