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An update on my 'To top off my crap year...' thread

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October · 17/04/2007 14:40

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lou33 · 05/06/2007 14:20

i agree and have been telling her so offline

Ifonlyhewould · 05/06/2007 14:23

I'm so glad you have!! It's difficult to say what you mean on here without it possibly sounding too harsh or offensive but tell her offline that if she doesn't get her arse into gear i will report her to Cashandcarry for a sever a*kicking!!!

One step Dior. A big one, I grant you that. But that one step will open up a whole new world of happiness for you xx

lou33 · 05/06/2007 14:26

i do understand because i was ina similar predicament, but i managed to say goodbye eventually

Ifonlyhewould · 05/06/2007 14:35

I managed to do the same with my first marriage. I got to the end of my tether and leapt straight into the 'great unknown' and just muddled my way through. It wasn't easy but it was well worth it!

Dior, if H was to tell you he doesn't love you, would this be enough to make you leave? Would it help you to make that step?

lou33 · 05/06/2007 14:38

i figure i managed to cope with 4 kids and do it, (still am), and dior can do it too, once she believs in herself enough to make the step

Ifonlyhewould · 05/06/2007 14:42

I always said if i ever won the lottery i was going to buy a HUGE building and open it as a drop in centre for kids who felt they needed somewhere to go for a bit of love, attention and a listening ear. I think now I will open a drop in centre for fed up women who need a bit of, love, attention and a listening ear

lou33 · 05/06/2007 14:45
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Dior · 05/06/2007 18:44

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lou33 · 05/06/2007 18:54

i think you need to stop trying to make him do anything and just accept your own feelings, then work on how you can get away from him tbh

you are flogging a dead horse wrt trying to make him admit anything , imo

lou33 · 05/06/2007 18:57

listen, my exh said he understood that it was his fault we ended splitting, but he still went about writing all sorts of rubbish online and spouting shit irl to people

really if anyone has half a brain they will realsie he is saying what he says out of frustraion, and they will understand there are 2 sides to a story

and if they dont, do what i did and tell them to fuck right out of your life

Dior · 05/06/2007 20:03

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lou33 · 05/06/2007 20:06

cab can recommend solicitors

Dior · 05/06/2007 20:15

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Dior · 05/06/2007 20:15

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lou33 · 05/06/2007 20:16

anytime

Dior · 05/06/2007 20:17

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turquoise · 05/06/2007 20:23

Hi Dior - sorry you're feeling so low, but glad you seem to have reached a crunch point.

I'm so sorry the book made you feel worse - even if G did just want you for sex it was because you are attractive. Georgeous in fact.

Try and remember you probably won't ever feel as bad as this again - having made the decision you'll be amazed how much your self esteem improves away from h digging and sniping and putting you down.

Dior · 05/06/2007 20:30

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lou33 · 05/06/2007 20:31

dont worry about me

Dior · 05/06/2007 20:32

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turquoise · 05/06/2007 21:08

Think the books as relevant to your h tbh, in that with any man, if he loved, respected, and cherished you - you'd feel loved, respected, and cherished. Not worthless and shit.
You deserve better, and you're on the way to getting it.

I'm feeling about as crap, but marginally stronger if that makes sense, thanks for asking

Fubsy · 05/06/2007 23:05

Hi Dior, this is a really horrible pace isnt it, the realisation that you might have to move out iof the relative comfort zone of a relationship, and head off into the unknown. i really sympathise.

FWIW, P kept trying to blame me by saying that I was expecting him to do all the changing, when I wasnt prepared to change myself. This was because one of my big problems was his attitude to DD and the way he behaved towards her - I felt it was bullying a lot of the time. he would then dredge up the fact that I had admitted to him that in times of severe stress i had smacked her and felt ashamed of it.

What he could not or would not understand was that I wwas deeply ashamed of the times I had hit her, and was desperately trying to deal with that side of my personality.

Instead he made it sound like "well if yoyu can smack her, i can shout at her." Which I felt was unacceptable.

Although i cried hysterically when we made the decision to split (in fact he said he couldnt go on, but I did feel as if i had pushed him into it as I had told him to go in anger several times) I have not done so since, and really feel as if a weight has been lifted - i just could not face another possible 40 years living like that.

And to be honest, everyone seems much more relaxed now - to the point where I offered to look at the flat P was considering, and he said he might take me up on it.

I think Ive probably got away with it lightly, but who knows what will happen in the future.

Another of P's little foibles is his refusal to think about the future or make real plans - he just says who knows what might happen, as if he cannot at least make a plan, even if it doesnt come to fruition.

So if I suggest he think about how the maintenace thing would be affected if he married or fathered another child, he just shrugs and says who knows what will happen. Which is just too annoying to persue, obviously what he is hoping for.

As we were not married, I dont qualify for maintenance for myself and as a professional in work, would not expect it. Although i dont think he would default on maintenance for his DD, I think at a pinch i could survive. There are other forms of payback anyway - such as when the mortgage becomes mine, he has a charge on the house, where I have to pay a percentage back to him if I sell it, as i cannot afford to buy him out now. If he screwed me over, i could do that back to him, so I think and hope thats unlikely.

Although he can be a PITA, he's not vindictive.

God, sorry, thats gobne on a bit.

Really, what Im trying to say is that although itas really hard right now, like the others say, there will be light at the end of the tunnel.

mummytosteven · 05/06/2007 23:11

I see you've had a turbulent few days. Good luck with talking to CAB/sols etc. H is probably attacking your parenting as he knows that you are such a good parent, i.e. that these sort of criticisms will cut you to the quick.

Tanee58 · 06/06/2007 14:51

Dior, so sorry he's being such a !?!!. Of COURSE you're a good mother - there is no such thing as a 'perfect' mother anyway - the important thing is that you do love ds, you do plenty of things with him (and yes, surely football can be shared with his dad - you don't HAVE to do everything?!). I didn't take my dd to the park much as I got SOOOO bored pushing her on the swings for hours - but exh was happy to do it. She doesn't love me the less for it. She once asked why I didn't come into the classroom to help out like other mums did - I was totally honest and said I'd rather stick needles in my eyes - well, actually, I phrased it differently and admitted I didn't much like spending time with 30 strange 5 year olds! Anyway, I became secretary of the PTA instead for years so that kept her happy about me being involved in her school and meant I was in the company of lots of nice other mums who are still friends 10 years on without having to be hands on with the kids except for the fun days and Christmas bazaars!

Anyway back to you - honestly, your h is being unbelievably self-righteous - is he really so Mr Perfect? I agree with the others he's highly unlikely to get custody - and he may only be threatening it to get at you. After all, if he's working FT, he'll need to find FT childcare - no court will see that as a benefit for ds unless you're completely inadequate - WHICH YOU ARE NOT! Shared custody could only work if you are living close to each other due to school etc. One of my friends has an informal sharing with her ex, but they still live in the same area so the girls can go to school from both homes. If one moved further, that would fall apart.

And please don't dwell on waiting for him to admit he's in the wrong, or say he doesn't love you. You could wait forever. You need to decide whether YOU are happy with him anymore - and we all sense the answer to that is 'no'. I think you should either have a Relate appointment to try to clarify your thoughts on that point, or have a chat with a solicitor - many offer a free half hour or so for matrimonials.

Oh, I do hope his stitches are hurting !

Fubsy · 06/06/2007 15:59

How are you today Dior?

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