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Emotional abuse is becoming severe please help

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Heartisbroken2 · 05/11/2017 10:52

I've name changed for this as I'm worried my Dh is on my trail. The abuse has been going on for years and I'm exhausted.
Name calling, shining torch in my face when I try to sleep, not helping me despite four kids and full time job, stalking me if I go out and ignoring me for days if I have a short evening with friebds( twice a year max). I cry quite a lot at the moment and get told to dry my eyes or "what the fuck are you crying for". I've been told I'm useless because I don't host dinner parties. My confidence is low and I have little time. Lately though the abuse has taken the form of long sermons or lessons about my deep character flaws. How my anxiety angers him And my delivery is all wrong. The lectures go on and on and I can't interrupt. I have to agree that he's right and I'm flawed. He then tells me what I need to do to change. If I try to infer that he needs to change he rants and storms off. I feel permanently sick to my stomach, I'm so tired of pretending. Everyone loves him and thinks he's amazing. My family don't but he's well and truly cut them out my life by treating them so badly and being unwelcoming when they stay. He causes the worst atmospheres with his physical presence alone. He storms about. My stomach dissolves in to bundles of nerves. I'm currently hanging on by the skin of my teeth. I sometimes think the only way to get away from him is to just end it all, but I know I have the kids to think of. I've tried to call women's aid but I can never get through. Anyone out there that can give some advice about how to communicate with him and tell him to stop

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whitehandledkitchenknife · 09/11/2017 09:17

Do not believe him. Be sweet on his face and quietly plan your exit. He is pulling the classic abuser's trick. He is, as PP said, likely picking up a change in you and needs to reel you in. I watched my vile abusive father do this for many years until my mother found the strength to leave him.

Itsonkyme · 09/11/2017 09:30

Please go to the Police. You have to make a move.

Heartisbroken2 · 09/11/2017 09:36

Just a question...lots of you are saying go to police. If he were to jeopardise his job for this it would have huge implications on me and the kids. So the impact is really widespread not just on him. Financially it would be a disaster.

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Slingsanderrors · 09/11/2017 09:54

I suppose you have to ask yourself whether you can live with this fear for the rest of your life. Read your original post through Heartis

Heartisbroken2 · 09/11/2017 10:06

Slingsanderrors I guess it's not so much a question of staying with him. I know I need to go and I will. More just wonder why the police? Everything will just implode if I do that.

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Heartisbroken2 · 09/11/2017 10:07

Sorry don't mean to be curt I'm on my knees with exhaustion at the moment. Working crazy hours, trying to run everything and all the worry. My brain feels like pea soup

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Battytwatty · 09/11/2017 10:12

I'm worried he may be reading this. He sounds sneaky and paranoid enough. Get it moved to the other place asap

Slingsanderrors · 09/11/2017 10:15

You weren't curt at all Heartis, and I know that pea soup brain feeling only too well. You don't have to involve the police if you don't feel you need to. Let WA guide you, take their advice, talk to their solicitor to find out your rights. As whitehandledkitchenknife says, quietly plan your exit.

Thinkingaboutarevolution · 09/11/2017 10:22

Take time to gather yourself, your thoughts and the things and information you need but while you are at it look at all the ways he could be able to track your thoughts and movements.

Jux · 09/11/2017 12:38

You don’t have to press charges, Heartis. If you ring 101 and ask for the DV Unit you will be able to chat with specially trained officers, like specially trained people at WA. You can ask them to be aware of your situation so that, should things go badly with him, they will respond fast.

It’s only covering your back, the chances are you won’t need it, but sometimes life goes wrong. You don’t think he’ll become violent or dangerous, and he probably won’t, but isn’t it better to have the police at your back if the worst does happen?

Keep behaving completely normally while you plan your next move, so he has no idea anything’s changed.

finallymadeupmymind · 09/11/2017 12:50

I wish I had done things like that OP, phone helplines or speak to the police DV team. I tried my local DV helpline but unlike you, gave up when I couldn't get through.

So I have no record or log of any abuse (other than via counselling and my counsellor specifically said that they never give evidence…). So I have no real 'proof', and ironically (?typically) my ex presents himself as the abused victim…

Even without making a charge, or letting him know that you have crystallised your resolve, all these steps may be helpful in the future.

Thinkingaboutarevolution · 09/11/2017 13:15

@nothingtolose do you have a thread of your own somewhere? If not you really sound like you need help and support so it might be a good idea to start one? A place to offload, to help sift through your thinking..?

Mamamagellanic · 09/11/2017 13:18

I’ve been here OP.

11/12 years ago- I was 21 and naively fell for an abuser. By the time I saw it, it was too late. He’s cut me off from family, made me tell my friends I didn’t want to speak to them anymore. Played me off against anyone I worked with, he did a very good job of poisoning my little world against me so I was completely isolated, except for him.

There was severe emotional and physical abuse. He is a monster.

I did what you said in your first post, I tried to end it all. I took s massive overdose of painkillers. I ended up in hospital, miraculously survived and massively fuelled his fake fire of telling everyone I was a ‘psycho’. Even a nurse in the hospital saw what was happening and had a quiet word, told me to leave. I knew she was right but I was paralysed by fear. My behaviour had backed up his claims that I was unhinged. He was so angry that I’d nearly made him responsible for my death, the abuse escalated. I was petrified and more trapped than ever, I feared if I left now he’d kill me. I believed him when he said there was ways he could kill me and make it look like an accident.

Then I got pregnant. Bear in mind, only a year or so had passed at this point, it was all so quick. I was utterly stuck now (so I thought) The pregnancy went on and he remained abusive. The constant monologues of how horrible, ugly, useless, weak I was. He’d throw things at me, punch my arms, coerce me into sex I didn’t want. He’d never hit my face because people would see. He’d strangle me though, or raise a maglite torch above his head in threat of bringing it down on mine. I remember every incident like it was yesterday.

I went into labour at 25 weeks. Even during the 36 hours they tried to keep my baby in me he was whispering in my ear ‘make sure a female doctor delivers, I’ll never look at you the same if it’s a man’ and I dutifully did- they looked at me like I was mad. The consultant would be delivering my extremely premature, potentially dead baby whether they were man, woman or alien. But he was constantly in my ear. Apart from when he popped out (5 hours) to pick up his car as it had a new stereo fitted. Im sure you’re getting the picture of what kind of character we’re dealing with..

DD was born. Whisked away, I didn’t know if she was alive, to NICU. She was gravely ill, to cut a very long story short she was in hospital for six months. I tried to leave him while she was in intensive care. I’d got the bus to hospital one day because I missed her and he wouldn’t come home to drive me (I wasn’t allowed out alone) he hit me and threw me out. I had to go into the hospital and ask if there was somewhere I could stay. It was horrific. I didn’t tell them the truth (I wish I had)

By now I’d had enough. I knew DD would t survive living with him. She has severe and multiple disabilities, she came home on oxygen and tube fed and I started my plan to leave. It took four months but I saved some money and called women’s aid. They advised me on my next move so when he was at work one day, I packed all DDs medical equipment including an oxygen concentrator and some clothes, loaded a taxi and went to sleep on my Nan’s two seater sofa with DDs carrycot beside me. I was terrified. Utterly convinced that he’d kill me, but I was strong, the strength was for DD, her life is so fragile, she needed protecting.

The monsters Mother was complicit in his abuse. She watched him punch me in the mouth once because I’d asked to go to the hospital to see DD. She didn’t say a word yet when I left him she fawned over is to try to get me to go back to him. Shocking! He tried to get us back. We had begging, pleading, monologues, ‘nobody is ever going to want you with a disabled baby’, insults, nastiness, stalking, more gestures.. after a year he left it and found another victim. He blackened my name a treat, half the town I live in probably think I’m ‘crazy’ but I’d say my level of parenting/caring and the life I’ve lived up to now is enough to dispel that utter drivel. I don’t care what anyone thinks now.

Ten years has passed. There is a novel’s worth of detail I have left out of this post but I wanted to let you know it can be done. DD is doing well. I am her full time carer, it’s been hard work but I can’t imagine how much harder it would have been if I was still with that monster. DD can’t speak, eat, she didn’t take a step until she was seven, she can’t see or hear properly- I can’t imagine how traumatic her life would be if it had included him.

Leaving was the best thing I’ve ever done for her. Your children deserve a happy, free mother and you deserve freedom. It can be done. I wish you all the luck in the world. If my story can help you in any way, even if it’s only to know you’re not alone, it’s worth sharing. I don’t often tell people because unless you’ve been there, you can’t understand it.

FluffyWhiteTowels · 09/11/2017 13:35

There are some truly horrific yet inspirational stories here.

Oly5 · 09/11/2017 13:49

OP, don’t worry about the price right now.. let Women’s aid guide you. The good thing about the police domestic violence unit is that they will just record it and your wishes for no action at the moment. It’s just back up in case you need to call them one day in an emergency.
Even if the police were involved, there is no certainty your partners workplace would find out.
Don’t worry about that right now anyway, worry about getting yourself and the kids out of there.
I suspect your DH has noticed you’re feeling a bit more upbeat but don’t listen to his lies. Just smile sweetly if you need to, nod and agree.
He may be nice for a little while but he will go back to abusing you soon enough. He is an abuser, end of

Oly5 · 09/11/2017 13:49

Police not price!

Mamamagellanic · 09/11/2017 13:51

Just to add- it must be much harder to leave when you share ownership of a home and here’ll be child access requirements. Ours was a rental, I left stuff behind and I refused him access after the first scared few months. Luckily he walked away (shouting to the world that I stopped him seeing his baby)
Nobody argued with me but DD needs specialist care, he’d never have been able to look after her anyway.

I eventually rented a little house and was happy. I was able to cut ties. Still occasionally see him driving though, always caused a fear response but a month or two ago it had turned to anger, I wanted to ram him with my car.

It must be so difficult to let children see these men. I’d fight it to the death.

BeachysFlipFlops · 09/11/2017 14:22

I think why everyone is saying involve the police is for the reason Oly gave. They can advise you, log incidents and ha e your address or phone number on a high alert system....

Even if your ‘d’ h is police, you should still contact them. A dear friend didn’t as her abusive partner was a police officer. She now has no reported evidence of dv at all. It’s proved a nightmare and she wished she had reported every incident.

Mix56 · 09/11/2017 16:18

is there any way he can have access to your computer history? can he log into your phone/computer, has he set up a cloud.
or spying device on your phone? He is so manically jealous of your every move it wouldn't be surprising if he can read this.

BTW, you can get a copy of your birth certificate on line. ! just get it sent to your work place, or safe address

EasyToEatTiger · 09/11/2017 19:05

Please report to the police. Back in the early summer my husband had me arrested out of sheer spite. In custody, everyone there told me to make a statement. The thing rumbles on and to date I have no idea what will happen next. I am trying to keep calm and get on with the divorce as smoothly as possible. It is a bloody nightmare.

Greedynan · 09/11/2017 20:12

Mamamag- your story had me in tears. I'm so glad you found the strength to escape to protect your child. Xx

Heartisbroken2 · 09/11/2017 20:51

Yes the jealousy is a huge problem. He hates me going out. If I do it's such a palaver and I get grilled/alternately looked at like I'm scum for days. So it's not worth it. He always tries to make me cancel and I have to text/ call repeatedly during the night out and leave before everyone else

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springydaffs · 09/11/2017 21:15

It's not jealousy, it's control.

He has you in a cage. If you step out of it he makes your life hell so it's easier for you to stay in it.

Except you die in it. Inwardly.

Heartisbroken2 · 09/11/2017 21:36

Springydaffs that's really affected me what you said there. It's so concise and describes the process of being immobilised and internal disintegration. It's so true. It's safer initially to be in the cage because you dodge the hot flames for a while. Instead it's death by a thousand cuts in that cage whilst you see everyone around you being part of a world that the abusers don't think you have a right to set foot in.

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Mamamagellanic · 09/11/2017 21:59

Springy is spot on.

I feel so sorry for you living in that misery Heart, I wish I could help.