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Has anyone ever forgiven an affair?

228 replies

queencerulean · 01/11/2017 22:06

Just that really. Has anyone taken back their dh after they’ve had an affair? And if you have, have you ever really forgiven them or trust them again?

It’s very early days since I found out he’d had an affair so I’m not about to rush into any decisions at all. Right now I haven’t got the emotional strength to go through all the details on here but he seems genuinely sorry and is begging that we talk it through in counselling.

Obviously I’ve told him that we won’t talk until I’m ready but however much I believe that he’s sorry, my instinct is to walk away.

I guess I’m just after perspectives of whether people have tried to work it out, come through stronger or tried and realised that it was just too big a thing to work through.

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CoyoteCafe · 08/11/2017 20:59

I'm so sorry you are going through this.

One of my DH's colleagues was lying to his wife about business trips so he could be with his OW, and it all blew up. Since then, I've asked DH to forward me receipts for business travel, which I think seems borderline crazy, but it's a really easy lie to get away with.

The thing with him meeting with her to talk would really get to me as well. He's been more concerned about supporting her than about you, the marriage, or the children.

How are you doing? Is being more clear helping? Are your emotions bouncing around? It's OK to feel however you feel; there's no right or wrong way to get through this. You WILL get through this, and it will easier with time.

CharlieBoo · 08/11/2017 21:30

18 months on and still in marriage I would say it’s always there and I mean ALWAYS... you won’t ever trust him again. Every quick pint of milk he nips out for, game of golf, away with work you will wonder. I actually think it’s a lot harder to stay in the marriage and try and make it work.. is it worth it? That’s your call and only you can decide. The hardest thing is the deceit. I honestly didn’t care about the sex, it was all the lies and he told them so convincingly and that’s when I knew if he told me today was Wednesday, I’d have to check the calendar...

Debswilltravel · 08/11/2017 21:42

My DH of almost 20 years cheated on me. My gut told me something was wrong for ages. He turned into a man I didn’t know or want to know. He finally confessed and I told him to leave. He pleaded for another chance. We had counselling and learned how to communicate again.

Seven years on and we are happier and stronger than ever.

I don’t believe the “once a cheater....” mantra either.

ConstantStruggler · 09/11/2017 06:38

@Queen our stories are so similar that I had to do a double take. I'm just a bit further down the timeline i think but not feeling any better for it.
I used to have nightmares and be glad I woke up in the morning. Now I'm living the nightmare and pray for some sleep... Sad
💕 for you.

queencerulean · 09/11/2017 07:09

I feel stuck. Stuck in a place of anger, hurt and I can’t see a way forward. I’m stuck in a toxic cycle of sending him vitriolic messages like last night when yet again i spent 3 hours mopping up tears, answering questions I can’t answer myself. Why did daddy do this? Why did this happen to me?

How the fuck do you move forward. Every time we do that spark is there between us still. And then it either hits me like a tonne of bricks again or I get angry that I still have feelings for him and angry at what he’s done.

At the very least he wants to be friends. But friends don’t treat a friend like that. A friend would be cut off off if they lied like that to me. Only I can’t cut him off because we have 3 fucked up children to look after.

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SchnitzelVonKrumm · 09/11/2017 07:30

When did the affair start? Because that’s how far ahead of you he is. It’s really important to remember that he’s known about all this for much longer than you have. You need at least as much time to process things and see how the land lies. Can you agree keep contact restricted to parenting for a few months?
I don’t see how you can be friends now when everything is so painful but you might be able to make friends again (or possibly even be partners again) later. The relationship you have is dead and you need to grieve for it before you can see if there’s potential to build a new one. Flowers

CoyoteCafe · 09/11/2017 12:18

I think we have to process everything that happened and feel our feelings before we can move forward. He wants to skip that part. He wants to skip the part where you are devistated and angry and the children are lost and confused.

May be the two of you will be able to be friends again in a year or two. You have a better shot of it if he accepts the amount of pain he has caused rather than pushing you toward a speedy resolution. How long did the affair go on? Give yourself twice that length of time to get over it.

GeriT · 09/11/2017 12:34

Has anyone's partner ever quit on their relationship because of the guilt associated with the affair?

threeandmeandthedog · 09/11/2017 13:08

Queen the anger and co flirting emotions are exhausting. I asked my H to leave and he has gone an d I am so angry with him but I miss him, love him, am terrified of doing this by myself .... it's such a horrible way to feel and I think it will be hard to move away from the anger.
We have been put in an awful position by someone else, who put their own needs first. What makes me the most angry is that I have no choice now to deal with this situation and the repercussions, whatever happens, and it will change me and my children.
I spent last night with a friend who is 4 years further down the line. She divorced her H and said that now she is a stronger person, great mum and has had a lucky escape. And she is all of those things and her three kids are great and are ok too.
Hope you get a bit of calm and a break from the relentless churning of emotions x

queencerulean · 10/11/2017 05:15

Thanks three. I’m feeling much less angry now. My counsellor reassured me that it’s ok to be angry, ok to want to smash his fucking face in and to just accept that’s where I am right now. Not to add any guilt into it. It is what is is. Weirdly since then I’ve felt the anger dissipate and I’ve been left feeling rather ambivalent. Sure, the anger will return but for now I’m enjoying not being consumed with anger. She also asked me about any positives however small from the past week. There have been moments of laughter, both mine and the children’s and I’m surrounded by love. I just have to believe that all this will get better.

He sent me a long email this evening. It feels like the first real heartfelt apology. Yes he’s apologised countless times already but I think reflecting on everything that’s happened he seems truly remorseful. He went to a funeral today and I think it hit home to him the importance of family etc etc. I also got the house valued today and I think this has given him a massive wake up call. In his email he admitted that he thought one day he would move back in.

I still don’t know what the fuck to do and my instincts still say to divorce the fucker but for now I’m enjoying the relative calm that I feel. There were no tears from the kids at bedtime, to be honest they didn’t even mention him. They are so used to not seeing him often.

three I’m handholding you through the anger as it’s utterly exhausting. It’s such a rollercoaster of emotions and I know I’ll be back in the anger phase again soon I’m sure. Hope you’ve had some sleep.

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threeandmeandthedog · 10/11/2017 11:00

Morning queen, glad you are feeling calmer, I am too and I haven't cried for about 24 hours, result!

Glad your kids are calmer too, funnily enough mine haven't really noticed he's not here as it's quite normal, will need to sit them down and he can explain to them at the weekend.

I do miss him a lot and I hate being in the bed by myself at night, I keep waking with my heart pounding. But feel quite resolved that I am not going to tolerate being disrespected in such a way. Who now what the future holds, but I feel my focus is on me and the kids right now.

Good that it's hit him what he's done, it is all about family and his selfish actions have destroyed that for all of you.

Wishing you a serene Friday !

BubblesInTheTub · 10/11/2017 11:11

I tried to forgive an affair.

I think I did "forgive" in the sense eventually, after several months, I wasn't wracked by anger, jealousy, bitterness, sadness and I didn't think about the affair every single day.

However, I lost respect for my DP. I wasn't angry at him, we got back to a relationship where we had a healthy sex life, we had fun, we were friends. But, underneath there was something that wasn't quite right and I couldn't figure it out.

One day we were out shopping and he was quite far away looking at something. I looked over at him and it just popped into my head "He's pathetic". It was like a proper penny-dropping moment and I realised what the little niggle in the back of my head was.

I ended it pretty soon afterwards.

Then I joined a feminist reading group (not because of the relationship or affair!) and rediscovered my rage about the affair but from the perspective of DP's lack of respect for women rather than from the perspective of him hurting me.

TheRealBettyDraper · 10/11/2017 12:22

Two years on here, ironically to the day. We have moved on leaps and bounds. DH has a huge fear of humiliation and is very closed emotionally - this is the biggest thing that has hindered us as I expected him to “show” his remorse, guilt etc more and continue to be more demonstrative in his love for me. He on the other hand would prefer it was never talked about again.

I’m not excusing his behaviour at all but I think it has made us appreciate what we do have and the fragility of all of it. We do lots of nice things together now. He travels less now - the travel I believe did mean he became isolated from us as a family. He became someone I didn’t recognise from the man I had been married to for 20 years. Ticked all the boxes of a mid life crisis. He was the most amazing husband and Dad. He no longer resides on the pedestal that I had him on. And maybe living up to that role was bloody difficult for him too - how the mighty fall!

Sometimes i look at him and really dislike him... I will never forget the hurt of the first few days and weeks. How hideous he was to me as he lashed out (not physically - although I did at him one night - I’m not proud of that but i did). He said and revealed some appalling things as he tried to shift the blame and face up to the the humiliation and guilt. It still makes me cry when i think about the evening of telling the children he wasn’t going to be living at home (his choice) whilst we sorted everything out, us snuggled on the sofa and he standing looking at us. To be fair that must have been hell for him too but whatever he felt at that point, he deserves every bloody part of it!!

I don’t believe once a cheater, always a cheater... I do believe it is important to self reflect and look at yourself within your relationship. I absolutely don’t accept any of the blame for the fact he shagged some women but I do have some understanding of the changes in him (bereavement, age, isolation from the family, lack of self esteem) what led to the very short affair.

We had couples counselling with, in my view, a rubbish counsellor.... i’d bare my soul expecting the counsellor to facilitate a response from DH, but he lacked the skill to do that and I believe let him off the hook on having to deal with difficult conversations and feelings. We did better unfacilitated. However, I saw someone on my own to deal with the initial separation and then also when we started again and he moved back home. She was brilliant and gave me insight into myself, DH and also tools to deal with situations.

I am glad I had the strength to fight for my marriage and do not regret it for one moment. What I don’t have is the sense of security for the future necessarily, but for now we are happily together. What i do know is that i no longer have a fear that he will leave me, not because i don’t think he will but actually because i know I’ll survive without him. He will never hurt me as much as that time and maybe I could choose to leave him. Who knows what’s around the corner. But I hope neither of us do...

I had a great marriage and family, I chose to try and get that back. It’s not the same marriage but it’s better in some ways and i think he is a kinder person now and more open.

You’ll know what’s right for you. Good luck with whatever you decide. Either way is difficult but you’ll survive!

hellsbellsmelons · 10/11/2017 12:33

You don't have to know what to do yet.
You need to give yourself time.
As you can see from these responses, it's a very personal choice.
Everyone handles things differently.
Some can move on.
Some think they can then realise they can't
Some it's a complete deal-breaker from day 1
I always believe that staying is the far harder option.
It takes a lot of work, from both parties.
And it takes a long long time.

Don't make any decisions yet.
Just get your space and be kind to yourself.

Amber0685 · 10/11/2017 16:40

How was today QueenC ?

Bluelonerose · 10/11/2017 17:02

I tried to forgive my exh.
Less than 12 months on I found him at it again so I threw him out.

Once MAY be a mistake.
Twice is not.

Good luck op Flowers

revengeongc · 10/11/2017 21:06

"But, underneath there was something that wasn't quite right and I couldn't figure it out.

One day we were out shopping and he was quite far away looking at something. I looked over at him and it just popped into my head "He's pathetic". It was like a proper penny-dropping moment and I realised what the little niggle in the back of my head was. "

It was like this for me too. Yes, he'd changed, for the better. But what he'd done meant that I'd changed too.

What point is there to a marriage or a relationship where there is no trust and no respect?

DoesHeWantToOrNot · 10/11/2017 22:40

My exh cheated on me all the time. Online, physically etc. He said he never slept with anyone else but I still don't believe that. I found photos on websites that I found by complete accident due to an email address popping up on gmail.

I kept forgiving and he kept doing it. I stayed with him because I was terrified of being alone and having to start again. We got married and I told him if he was going to cheat on me again not to turn up. He showed so I thought we'd turned a corner.

However I found more after we got married. It got to a stage where I had all his passwords etc for everything. That's not a way to live. I was turning down work that meant he'd be home alone incase he was up to no good again. I was driving myself mad.

Eventually in 2014 I was offered a lot of summer work where I wouldn't see him from Sunday night's till Saturday morning and I went and done it and it was such a relief being with new people and enjoying myself. I knew the night that I took on extra work so I didn't have to see him that it was completely over.

I then met my now dp while still with exh and he gave me the strength to leave. Nothing happened with dp until I left because no matter what my exh done to me I couldn't do that to him.

I was a fool for continuing to go back to him but I thought I was making the right choice.

Sorry for waffling on. I've never written it down before.

Astrologica · 11/11/2017 01:25

My mum did it to my dad three different times that we know about.

Now my mum lives with her partner and visits us and my dad, spinning my dad into a sentimental state where he has to drink himself into a stupor for a week, just to recover from the loss he feels.

I see that and I think no, that’s not right. Sad

queencerulean · 11/11/2017 07:42

doeshe thankyou for sharing your story. Hope you feel better for having written it down.

Two of the dc were a mess again last night. I can just about cope with my anger and hurt now as I know it will pass even if for a bit. But seeing my kids hurt just makes me full of hatred. They are so innocent in this. I can accept that my behaviour led the marriage to not be as great as it could (not that makes his actions right or justified) but the kids do not deserve this at all.

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threeandmeandthedog · 11/11/2017 09:16

Queen I am sorry your Dc are upset. This is what gets me too. That these men have acted with no thought on the effect on thier children and the sense of security they have destroyed for them. It's so arrogant and selfish.
But they have you and you are a solid and stable presence in thier lives and you will be ok and so will they .
Flowers

RosyWelshcakes · 11/11/2017 09:54

. I actually think it’s a lot harder to stay in the marriage and try and make it work.. is it worth it?

They are both equally as hard but for different reason.

SandyY2K · 11/11/2017 17:41

@queencerulean

I'm sorry your DC were upset last night. The worse thing about affairs is the failure to think about the children involved .... or the consequences of having an affair.

Nobody having an affair ever thinks that they'll get caught ... the longer it goes on, the more complacent they become..... and that's when they get caught.

Sometimes a couple remarry after getting divorced..... I think the divorce serves as a serious wake up call that ypu won't tolerate it and is the ultimate consequence of infidelity for thr cheater.

FrancesDestroyed · 11/11/2017 20:57

My H said that he never thought that he'd get caught. I found the sexts 7 months ago and evidence of 5 dates. They work together. She's 21 years younger than him and married too. She has dogs not children. We have 2 teenagers. We've been together for 27 years and married for 22. I found out about it on my birthday, he was increasingly vile and on my birthday I finally twigged and looked at his phone. I've had breast cancer and a mastectomy, she used to sext him about her breasts and he used to sext her when he was in bed with me, wishing afterwards it was her. He promised it was over, but 4 months later I found out that there had been 1 more meeting and continued texts. He and a mutual friend had recorded her a love song.
We're still together, he wants to move on and thinks I'm unreasonable for being so hurt. He's over it now and can't understand why I'm not. He is genuinely sorry now and trying very hard to make amends.
I can't get through a day without thinking or talking about it. I'm very depressed. I've lost a lot of weight, I'm over 5 ft 8 and weigh 8 stone 7lbs. I start to talk and end up filling up with tears. The angry stage has gone now and I'm just left with this. When does it end?

SandyY2K · 11/11/2017 21:05

@FrancesDestroyed

I'm sorry you are dealing with infidelity on top of your illness.
You deserve better than this.

Feel free to start your own thread for support.

It's awful that he betrayed you and is really not remorseful. If he was he wouldn't expect you to be over it just like that.

I hope you have some support for the cancer and the betrayal.

What has he done to show you he's genuinely sorry?

If you don't want to start a thread... feel free to PM me.

He felt entitled...thstd

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