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AIBU to not want to pay towards SIL's wedding?

264 replies

MyOtherNameIsAFordFiesta · 26/10/2017 16:27

DH has 4 siblings. They consider themselves to be super close, do loads of things together, and tell each other all the minutiae of their lives.

Growing up, the family were quite wealthy. FIL had a good job, and they basically got everything they wanted.

FIL's parents died around 15 years ago, and he inherited their house, which he sold for £100k. It was decided that this money would be split between the siblings, to give them as a deposit for a house, or towards a wedding, whichever they wanted.

SIL1 got married about 9 years ago. She was given her 20k as a house deposit, but then PIL also paid for her big, fancy wedding, which DH reckons was around another 20k.

Shortly after this, FIL had to leave work due to an injury. He was out of work for some time, before eventually finding a new job, which was just above minimum wage. During this time, he and MIL continued to spend as much as they always had done.

Next, BIL announced he was buying a flat. No money was forthcoming for the deposit; PIL gave him a voucher for about £100 and that was it.

Then DH and I got married; again, no money. Fine, we didn't expect anything, but I did think DH should have asked what was happening with the money.

Next, FIL started to ask to borrow money. Long story short, it turned out that he wouldn't tell MIL that money was tight, so she was still spending wildly, all savings were gone, and there was no money left.

Now SIL2 has announced she's getting married. She's younger than DH by about 10 years, and has always been very much the baby of the family. She has never had a job (she's waiting for "the right thing" to come along, apparently), and has a small amount of savings. Her wedding plans are fairly grand, but obviously she can't afford them.

SIL1 has sat the other siblings down and said that she thinks they should all chip in "a couple of grand" so she can have her dream wedding. She pointed out that PIL have worked hard and will be embarrassed if SIL has a small wedding; she also said "they've done so much for us over the years, we should pay something back". Bear in mind that this SIL is the one who got a flat deposit and a large wedding paid for; the rest of us haven't had that.

DH doesn't want to, but when she says things like "family have to stick together", "we're a close family; we help each other out if we can", "are any of us really going to enjoy the wedding if we know [SIL] wanted more?" etc, I can see him feeling guilty.

We are currently saving for a house deposit, so we do have a bank account with enough money in it, but I just think it would be absolutely ridiculous to hand it over.

If PILs had attempted to rein in their spending and save up once FIL lost his job, or if SIL2 had got herself a job, and if it was a smaller amount of money, I'd be happy enough. But I'm currently thinking no way. DH is wavering though, and SIL1 is really putting pressure on. BIL is pretty well off and would hand it over happily. Other SIL is thinking more like DH, but is also feeling the pressure.

Should I stick to my guns? Suggest we give a smaller amount (but then DH will feel stingy)? Tell SIL1 to stop asking about it (although this will cause a big row and DH will be upset)? Or stay out of it (but risk DH committing us to the full amount)?

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ArcheryAnnie · 29/10/2017 17:06

Good luck, OP. Here's hoping you get a reasonable response.

(Isn't it amazing how the people who get the free money are always very good at suggesting other people put their hands in their pockets when something needs paying for?)

HashiAsLarry · 29/10/2017 17:18

Hope you get a reasonable response, but doubt it. That sort of nuttiness only breeds more nuttiness, or in this case increased emotional blackmail.

StealthPolarBear · 29/10/2017 18:07

Aus that cake is beautiful

EspressoPatronum · 29/10/2017 18:44

@myothernameisafordfiesta what did your email say? You’re definitely right to refuse to contribute!

As an aside, dp and I are seriously considering a crispie cake wedding cake now!!

reallyorange · 29/10/2017 18:58

Bit late now, but all you need to repeat from now on is 'sorry, no, we can't afford it.' No deviation. And then your suggestion for the cake or whatever.

DeathByMascara · 29/10/2017 19:31

Just read this thread - settling in for the response to your email! Well done on that, you are totally in the right b

MyOtherNameIsAFordFiesta · 29/10/2017 19:35

@EspressoPatronum we basically said "We appreciate that you would like all the family to come together to contribute financially to [SIL]'S wedding, however, we are not in a position to join you in doing this.".

She has replied saying "OK, I just thought it would be nice for the whole family to do this for her, but if you don't want to, that's fine.".

We're not replying to that!

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Santawontbelong · 29/10/2017 19:42

Well done op!!! Wine

ElChan03 · 29/10/2017 19:51

Well done!! Hopefully she'll get off her high horse too.

Appuskidu · 29/10/2017 19:56

What a cow!

OnionShite · 29/10/2017 20:13

I really want that cake.

Aeroflotgirl · 29/10/2017 21:51

Wow what a front she has! Nice for the family wtaf!!!! Nice for her as she gets a lovely wedding. This is the biggest case of CF itis I have ever encountered😮😮😮😮

AvoidingDM · 29/10/2017 21:52

Oh what a snooty reply - designed to guilt trip you.
I would be half tempted to retort, "would be nice but we are not in a financial position to support sil. We are saving for a deposit to secure our own future"

I'd make it crystal clear that you don't have the spare cash to do it.

Appuskidu · 29/10/2017 22:02

What did your DH say when he read her reply?!

MarthasHarbour · 29/10/2017 22:05

Urgh, if it wasnt for the amount of siblings i would have thought you were talking about my family! Grin

She has totally twisted that 'if you dont want to thats fine'. So passive aggressive. Yep, ignore it as you say. Or as the Madagascar penguins say 'smile and wave'

EspressoPatronum · 29/10/2017 22:14

Ohhhhh that reply would have me fuming!

honeyroar · 29/10/2017 22:15

Reply
"Glad you understand. It must be lovely having your wedding paid for by someone else, but I'm sure she wouldn't want family members to struggle financially to do so, or sacrifice important things they're saving for."

Inertia · 29/10/2017 22:26

I'd be tempted to reply that if the whole family had had 40 grand each for a deposit and a wedding then they might be in a position to help out.

Frazzled2207 · 29/10/2017 22:30

Pleased you have stood your ground. Crazy woman.

Hairgician · 29/10/2017 23:09

I second honeyroar 😂😂 perfect snarky response.

Ellie56 · 29/10/2017 23:12

"It's not that we don't want to help out it's that we can't AFFORD to help out. We're saving for a deposit for our house as we weren't given thousands of £££ like you.If you're so keen to help out use some of the money PIL gave you."

starzig · 29/10/2017 23:16

I would give her nothing. It is a wedding not a life critical issue.

DontDrinkDontSmoke · 29/10/2017 23:19

It’s unanimous

Jux · 29/10/2017 23:52

Well done, op! I admit I’d be tempted to reply “If we’d been given 20k for a house deposit then we’d be in a position to contribute, but having paid for our wedding and now saving for a house deposit, we aren’t. So glad to know that you are.”

Jux · 29/10/2017 23:55

Oh, and I wouldn’t be paying for the cakeor anything, I’d be buying something middle-priced from the list, but giving SIL2 lots of emoioal support and practical help if she wanted it.

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