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AIBU to not want to pay towards SIL's wedding?

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MyOtherNameIsAFordFiesta · 26/10/2017 16:27

DH has 4 siblings. They consider themselves to be super close, do loads of things together, and tell each other all the minutiae of their lives.

Growing up, the family were quite wealthy. FIL had a good job, and they basically got everything they wanted.

FIL's parents died around 15 years ago, and he inherited their house, which he sold for £100k. It was decided that this money would be split between the siblings, to give them as a deposit for a house, or towards a wedding, whichever they wanted.

SIL1 got married about 9 years ago. She was given her 20k as a house deposit, but then PIL also paid for her big, fancy wedding, which DH reckons was around another 20k.

Shortly after this, FIL had to leave work due to an injury. He was out of work for some time, before eventually finding a new job, which was just above minimum wage. During this time, he and MIL continued to spend as much as they always had done.

Next, BIL announced he was buying a flat. No money was forthcoming for the deposit; PIL gave him a voucher for about £100 and that was it.

Then DH and I got married; again, no money. Fine, we didn't expect anything, but I did think DH should have asked what was happening with the money.

Next, FIL started to ask to borrow money. Long story short, it turned out that he wouldn't tell MIL that money was tight, so she was still spending wildly, all savings were gone, and there was no money left.

Now SIL2 has announced she's getting married. She's younger than DH by about 10 years, and has always been very much the baby of the family. She has never had a job (she's waiting for "the right thing" to come along, apparently), and has a small amount of savings. Her wedding plans are fairly grand, but obviously she can't afford them.

SIL1 has sat the other siblings down and said that she thinks they should all chip in "a couple of grand" so she can have her dream wedding. She pointed out that PIL have worked hard and will be embarrassed if SIL has a small wedding; she also said "they've done so much for us over the years, we should pay something back". Bear in mind that this SIL is the one who got a flat deposit and a large wedding paid for; the rest of us haven't had that.

DH doesn't want to, but when she says things like "family have to stick together", "we're a close family; we help each other out if we can", "are any of us really going to enjoy the wedding if we know [SIL] wanted more?" etc, I can see him feeling guilty.

We are currently saving for a house deposit, so we do have a bank account with enough money in it, but I just think it would be absolutely ridiculous to hand it over.

If PILs had attempted to rein in their spending and save up once FIL lost his job, or if SIL2 had got herself a job, and if it was a smaller amount of money, I'd be happy enough. But I'm currently thinking no way. DH is wavering though, and SIL1 is really putting pressure on. BIL is pretty well off and would hand it over happily. Other SIL is thinking more like DH, but is also feeling the pressure.

Should I stick to my guns? Suggest we give a smaller amount (but then DH will feel stingy)? Tell SIL1 to stop asking about it (although this will cause a big row and DH will be upset)? Or stay out of it (but risk DH committing us to the full amount)?

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CakesRUs · 26/10/2017 16:47

Yes families help each other out - of a crisis, you can get married for next to nothing if you chose, this isn’t a crisis, she can cope without a fancy wedding. She’s choosing all this stuff and YANBU to not want to have to help her.

MyOtherNameIsAFordFiesta · 26/10/2017 16:47

@Pancakeflipper Do you think Rice Krispy buns would work as a wedding cake? That's the limit of my baking skills!

SIL1 is aware we had no help, as far as i know (I'm not totally sure as finances aren't discussed in DH's family)

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smartiecake · 26/10/2017 16:49

Stupid autocorrect failures

Bananalanacake · 26/10/2017 16:49

Is she fresh out of university. Anyway she needs a job if she wants a wedding. I can't stand lazy arses.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 26/10/2017 16:50

Even if you wanted to do this, it's not going to be just "a couple of thousand" is it? A £20,000+ wedding split between the other four siblings could easily double or triple that, though no doubt SIL1 would consider this fair enough after having the gall to suggest it

As PPs have said, you're married so of course you get a say in what's done with your own family's money; if everyone except the bride had received their "share" it might have been a bit different, but they haven't and the rest of the cash has gone. Personally I'd simply tell her to get a job and start saving ... and the sooner the better, before she has more ideas like this

RhiannonOHara · 26/10/2017 16:50

NO WAY.

And don't even think about paying for the cake, or anything else. She's not a fucking princess; she can have the wedding she can afford. It won't kill her.

I'd be mad as hell at FIL too: 'he wouldn't tell MIL that money was tight, so she was still spending wildly, all savings were gone, and there was no money left.' Hmm How could any responsible person let that happen? Does MIL know the truth now?

Don't give them a penny, OP. Family misfortune is one thing and is worthy of support; financial incontinence plus a massive guilt trip is not.

Halfdrankbrew · 26/10/2017 16:51

Absolutely not!!! She should pay for the wedding she can afford, if that's only something small then so be it. You'd be mad to let your DH contribute part of your house deposit.

ClementineWardrobe · 26/10/2017 16:54

I'd say no in 10 different languages just to make sure everyone was clear. Ludicrous behaviour. If your DH gives in and stumps up then I'd spend the rest of the deposit on something at bonhams next jewellery auction, and wear it to the wedding. Where I'd turn into the ultimate bridezilla guest, having paid for a fuck off sized chunk of it.

hellsbellsmelons · 26/10/2017 16:56

"we're such a close family"
Not close enough to put a fund together for YOUR wedding, or YOUR house!
WTF?????
Massive double standards.
Tell her to FOTTFSOF

MagdalenLaundry · 26/10/2017 16:57

No way
Just tell SIL you cannot afford it. Perhaps the rest of the siblings would contribute to your house deposit?
I wouldn't offer to pay for any particular thing either. You are not her parent
If she asks for cash gifts give £100 or however much you would have given. Our neice had to budget carefully for her wedding so we gave her £200 well before the wedding
She was thrilled and so should your SIL be

FizzyGreenWater · 26/10/2017 16:57

No. Just NO. This is the way families fall out. Tell your DH in no uncertain terms that he has NO RIGHT to authorise giving away any part of your JOINT savings in this way and if he does you will completely rethink your future with him.

The answer to this is of course easy:

'Sorry SIL, I don't know if you realise this, but YOU are the only one who has benefitted from any financial support so far. Unlike you, we had to pay for all of our wedding ourselves, and we got no help towards buying our home as you did. As a result, we certainly aren't in your lucky position of being able to 'pay back' from the monies we've saved, nor is 'Other SIL' I imagine. I can see why you would feel that you should pay back into the pot for 'Wedding SIL' to benefit and that's very kind. We wouldn't of course expect you to give us any of the money you received by the way, we've managed ok in the end and I don't think you should feel guilty about having what ended up being all of the inheritance. However, it's great that you want to at least recognise that you have so far had so much more than the rest of us.'

Jaxhog · 26/10/2017 16:58

No, no, no! If she can't afford it, then she should save for it herself. It's beyond crazy for her sister to suggest it! If SiL1 wants her sis to have a lavish wedding, then let HER pay for it.

Tbh, I do not understand why people pay so much for weddings. It's the marriage that counts, not the wedding!

Ttbb · 26/10/2017 16:58

Why don't you ask her to chip in for your house deposit then?

Rafflesway · 26/10/2017 16:58

YADDDDDDDDNBU, Fiesta 😾

Pancakeflipper · 26/10/2017 16:58

I think it will look delightful...

AIBU to not want to pay towards SIL's wedding?
MyOtherNameIsAFordFiesta · 26/10/2017 17:00

@RhiannonOHara you're right about FIL - I do think he's been very irresponsible by not being honest with MIL. I think he was embarrassed (he lost his job due to becoming injured in an accident at work, which was caused by him not following H&S procedures and almost injured someone else too). MIL now knows there's an issue with money, but still spends like mad - holidays, presents, nice cars etc. They're quite "showy" and I think don't want people to know they're not as wealthy as they were (hence also being embarrassed by a small wedding).

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ReginaBlitzkreig · 26/10/2017 17:01

a contribution to someone who chooses not to work? no.
And SIL1 can contribute as she pleases, but it is a bit much to be trying to get her siblings to. It strikes me as a bit of guilt displacement on her part.

Can't your DH just ignore her blandishments?

MyOtherNameIsAFordFiesta · 26/10/2017 17:02

@Pancakeflipper that looks lush!

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RhiannonOHara · 26/10/2017 17:02

OP, that's sad for them, I can see that, but not your problem and not a reason for you to give up your house deposit. Please stay firm on this.

Charley50 · 26/10/2017 17:02

Absolutely No Fucking Way!!!
What a pisstaker (the SIL whose idea it is).
They just have a wedding they can afford and you buy a present. That's it. Ridiculous! Expecting you to use your savings for a house to fund a wedding! She is nuts!

user1471449805 · 26/10/2017 17:03

Boo fucking hoo.

No way.

heavenforbid · 26/10/2017 17:03

This is completely irrelevant but I did go to a wedding once with a chocolate rice krispy wedding cake and it was DELICIOUS.

On a serious note - agree with PP suggesting you offer to pay for something (e.g. cake or flowers) if DH is feeling the guilt trip. Completely absurd to ask you to contribute "a couple of grand"(!!!!) to pay for her wedding, especially when you're saving for a deposit.

I'd say something along the lines of "we'd love to help out with the wedding by buying SIL2 their wedding cake/flowers as a gift but really can't commit to more than that while we're saving for our house as this would empty our savings. If SIL2 wants any advice for planning a wedding on her budget/saving for a wedding I'd be happy to help as we did the same."

SchadenfreudePersonified · 26/10/2017 17:04

Do you think Rice Krispy buns would work as a wedding cake? That's the limit of my baking skills!all>

You could make a sort of "croquembouche" out of the Fiesta

heavenforbid · 26/10/2017 17:05

Also just realised SIL2 isn't working - and yet expects a big wedding?! On what planet....?

Puzzledandpissedoff · 26/10/2017 17:05

the SIL who's getting married knows nothing about this, and hasn't asked for anything. This is all SIL1's idea

If this is really so, I take back the bit about the bride getting "more ideas like this", but are you absolutely sure? If she's aware her other siblings got nothing, surely the bride would be mortified if she learned about SIL1's suggestion on her behalf? And what's this about PILs being ashamed if it was a modest wedding ... has that really come from them, or is that SIL1's doing too?

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