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AIBU to not want to pay towards SIL's wedding?

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MyOtherNameIsAFordFiesta · 26/10/2017 16:27

DH has 4 siblings. They consider themselves to be super close, do loads of things together, and tell each other all the minutiae of their lives.

Growing up, the family were quite wealthy. FIL had a good job, and they basically got everything they wanted.

FIL's parents died around 15 years ago, and he inherited their house, which he sold for £100k. It was decided that this money would be split between the siblings, to give them as a deposit for a house, or towards a wedding, whichever they wanted.

SIL1 got married about 9 years ago. She was given her 20k as a house deposit, but then PIL also paid for her big, fancy wedding, which DH reckons was around another 20k.

Shortly after this, FIL had to leave work due to an injury. He was out of work for some time, before eventually finding a new job, which was just above minimum wage. During this time, he and MIL continued to spend as much as they always had done.

Next, BIL announced he was buying a flat. No money was forthcoming for the deposit; PIL gave him a voucher for about £100 and that was it.

Then DH and I got married; again, no money. Fine, we didn't expect anything, but I did think DH should have asked what was happening with the money.

Next, FIL started to ask to borrow money. Long story short, it turned out that he wouldn't tell MIL that money was tight, so she was still spending wildly, all savings were gone, and there was no money left.

Now SIL2 has announced she's getting married. She's younger than DH by about 10 years, and has always been very much the baby of the family. She has never had a job (she's waiting for "the right thing" to come along, apparently), and has a small amount of savings. Her wedding plans are fairly grand, but obviously she can't afford them.

SIL1 has sat the other siblings down and said that she thinks they should all chip in "a couple of grand" so she can have her dream wedding. She pointed out that PIL have worked hard and will be embarrassed if SIL has a small wedding; she also said "they've done so much for us over the years, we should pay something back". Bear in mind that this SIL is the one who got a flat deposit and a large wedding paid for; the rest of us haven't had that.

DH doesn't want to, but when she says things like "family have to stick together", "we're a close family; we help each other out if we can", "are any of us really going to enjoy the wedding if we know [SIL] wanted more?" etc, I can see him feeling guilty.

We are currently saving for a house deposit, so we do have a bank account with enough money in it, but I just think it would be absolutely ridiculous to hand it over.

If PILs had attempted to rein in their spending and save up once FIL lost his job, or if SIL2 had got herself a job, and if it was a smaller amount of money, I'd be happy enough. But I'm currently thinking no way. DH is wavering though, and SIL1 is really putting pressure on. BIL is pretty well off and would hand it over happily. Other SIL is thinking more like DH, but is also feeling the pressure.

Should I stick to my guns? Suggest we give a smaller amount (but then DH will feel stingy)? Tell SIL1 to stop asking about it (although this will cause a big row and DH will be upset)? Or stay out of it (but risk DH committing us to the full amount)?

OP posts:
ZenNudist · 26/10/2017 20:03

Thats a lovely idea if everyone were loaded. As youre not its insane. I would not be offering to buy a cake umless you have £400 to spare. I doubt a cheap one will pass muster.

Gemini69 · 26/10/2017 20:03

this is easy OP.. it's a No.. because you simply do not have the money ..

plus you're risking delaying your own 'Home buying' plans for the sake of someone else's 1 day event.. it's very cruel and pretty shameful of the SIL1 to put this pressure on all of you.... the poor Bride would probably be mortified too Flowers

FucksakeCuntingFuckingTwats · 26/10/2017 20:08

And the parents could always sell one of their new cars or some of their stuff they have been buying to make money for the wedding.

Chestervase1 · 26/10/2017 20:11

Just say no. You have your own life to live.

colourflash · 26/10/2017 20:13

How does SIL2 get money to live if she doesn't work?

NikiBabe · 26/10/2017 20:19

How does SIL2 get money to live if she doesn't work?

Presumably her finance is keeping her. Sorry fiance.

If so he can tell his fiancee to get a f-ing job or pay for the wedding himself.

Appuskidu · 26/10/2017 20:24

Next time SIL1 starts on about it, remind her that she got her wedding paid for AND a house deposit, and none of you got that

This. I can't see that there's anything else left to say?!

How did it go from your PIL deciding to split the money between all the siblings to selfish SIL getting £40?!

What does the fiancée of the sister in law who is getting married earn to enable her to to fuck all for a living?!

Ausparent · 26/10/2017 20:24

If you want to contribute something I can do the cake and wouldn't charge. You can see my latest sample here
justsomething.co/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/wedding-cake-fails-16.jpg

They will never know it didn't cost thousands...

PhuntSox · 26/10/2017 20:26

Its fine, the money can come out of your DH's share of the 100k! Easy!

SheffieldStealer · 26/10/2017 20:32

This isn’t even about SIL - this is fundamentally about enabling the MIL to pretend she’s living a wholly different lifestyle! And it looks like the apple hasn’t fallen far from the tree if SIL2 thinks she ‘deserves’ an expensive wedding that she isn’t paying for.

There’s no ‘shame’ in telling people you’re having a small wedding because you want it to be intimate or in a particular place - SIL2 should just choose a beautiful tiny chapel or a ceremonial Phone box or something. And stump up for her own unicorns.

SandyDenny · 26/10/2017 20:41

This is a no brainer, just tell SIL1 that you won't be contributing anything, what a dysfunctional family

altiara · 26/10/2017 20:50

Haha, no!! They have not done anything for you so you don’t have to repay them. Prioritise your house deposit for sure.
The in laws seem all about being showy so I definitely would not be forking out thousands. Helping out would be different if you could see SIL2 working hard, saving and had appropriate wedding plans. And if parents in law were being savvy with money. I can imagine the 20k budget doubling if they think others are paying!
And then will you have to buy her a house as well?

CommanderDaisy · 26/10/2017 20:59

No. No way.Stick to your guns.

It's ridiculous to trot out the close family crap when you were the benficiary of 40 grand, and no one else received anything. And when MIL is blithely tossing around cash she doesn't have. Your SIL1 is feeling guilty and trying to shift that guilt onto the others. Don't let your DH fall for it.

SIL2 needs to get a job, and scale down plans.

Buying a house is more important than a wedding.
Offer to pay for something if you must, but as previous posters have said make it a smaller item - like cake etc.

Appuskidu · 26/10/2017 21:08

The female members of your in law family seem to be incredibly entitled!

AvoidingDM · 26/10/2017 21:52

Just a thought and kind of irrelevant is future BILs family contributing to the wedding?
Does he work or are they both CF?

Mrs I certainly don't see why the ops parents contributing to her wedding has anything to do with what she and her DH should contribute to SIL.

I also agree that this won't stop at the wedding.

Handsfull13 · 26/10/2017 21:55

If no one can be happy unless your all happy, surely you can point out you will be very unhappy having to hand over your hard earned money that should help you get a house.

SchadenfreudePersonified · 26/10/2017 21:58

"outhouse Bake Off", Schadenfreude? How did I miss that !

It was the best episode Regina Grin

SchadenfreudePersonified · 26/10/2017 22:00

She'll need to fund her own wedding.

She can get a paper round he lazy cow!

Sashkin · 26/10/2017 22:01

Ask them to give you all £20k towards a house deposit, like SIL1 had. You’ll come out in profit. Wink

SchadenfreudePersonified · 26/10/2017 22:03

traditionally the Bride's father pays for the wedding

What century are you living in mrsm?

Sashkin · 26/10/2017 22:05

Sorry, pressed send too soon.

Ask all the BILs and SILs to chip in to give you a £20k house deposit, like SIL1 had. Since you’re all so close.

That way you’ll be paying £5k out, but getting £20k back. £15k profit! You can be as enthusiastic and gushy as you like about what a great idea SIL1 has had, and how great it is you don’t have to save up for a deposit any more.

I suspect SIL1 and 2 will suddenly lose interest in the whole idea.

HeebieJeebies456 · 27/10/2017 02:05

Ask sil where that 'closeness' was when bil and your dh got married?
She didn't speak up at either of those events - why not?

Be very blunt - if sil and her fiance can't afford to pay for their own wedding - then she needs to get a job.
If her partner can afford to 'keep' her then they clearly don't need financial 'help' from anyone else.

Or you could agree with her - and then tell her she needs to remortgage her house to pay bil, sil and dh the equivalent - seeing as she's the only one that benefited from the 'inheritance'.

I wouldn't even bother buying the wedding cake tbh.......bride-to-be sounds like a spoilt, pampered brat who's still got a lot of growing up to do.
Don't enable her.

whinetime89 · 27/10/2017 02:12

hell noooo! If the roles were reversed and your siblings needed help to fund their wedding wjat would your husband say?

ittakes2 · 27/10/2017 02:31

She's made her life choices - no way should you pay for her. She needs to rein in her ideas within her budget.

RunRabbitRunRabbit · 27/10/2017 08:30

Maybe your DH could kill her attitude by directly saying that while he understands her guilt at getting all the money and no-one else getting any, she is trying to assuage her guilt in the wrong way, a way that hurts her other siblings so while DH and other sister understand where she's coming from and feel for her they can't go along with her guilt trip spendathon. That might pull her up short.

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