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AIBU to not want to pay towards SIL's wedding?

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MyOtherNameIsAFordFiesta · 26/10/2017 16:27

DH has 4 siblings. They consider themselves to be super close, do loads of things together, and tell each other all the minutiae of their lives.

Growing up, the family were quite wealthy. FIL had a good job, and they basically got everything they wanted.

FIL's parents died around 15 years ago, and he inherited their house, which he sold for £100k. It was decided that this money would be split between the siblings, to give them as a deposit for a house, or towards a wedding, whichever they wanted.

SIL1 got married about 9 years ago. She was given her 20k as a house deposit, but then PIL also paid for her big, fancy wedding, which DH reckons was around another 20k.

Shortly after this, FIL had to leave work due to an injury. He was out of work for some time, before eventually finding a new job, which was just above minimum wage. During this time, he and MIL continued to spend as much as they always had done.

Next, BIL announced he was buying a flat. No money was forthcoming for the deposit; PIL gave him a voucher for about £100 and that was it.

Then DH and I got married; again, no money. Fine, we didn't expect anything, but I did think DH should have asked what was happening with the money.

Next, FIL started to ask to borrow money. Long story short, it turned out that he wouldn't tell MIL that money was tight, so she was still spending wildly, all savings were gone, and there was no money left.

Now SIL2 has announced she's getting married. She's younger than DH by about 10 years, and has always been very much the baby of the family. She has never had a job (she's waiting for "the right thing" to come along, apparently), and has a small amount of savings. Her wedding plans are fairly grand, but obviously she can't afford them.

SIL1 has sat the other siblings down and said that she thinks they should all chip in "a couple of grand" so she can have her dream wedding. She pointed out that PIL have worked hard and will be embarrassed if SIL has a small wedding; she also said "they've done so much for us over the years, we should pay something back". Bear in mind that this SIL is the one who got a flat deposit and a large wedding paid for; the rest of us haven't had that.

DH doesn't want to, but when she says things like "family have to stick together", "we're a close family; we help each other out if we can", "are any of us really going to enjoy the wedding if we know [SIL] wanted more?" etc, I can see him feeling guilty.

We are currently saving for a house deposit, so we do have a bank account with enough money in it, but I just think it would be absolutely ridiculous to hand it over.

If PILs had attempted to rein in their spending and save up once FIL lost his job, or if SIL2 had got herself a job, and if it was a smaller amount of money, I'd be happy enough. But I'm currently thinking no way. DH is wavering though, and SIL1 is really putting pressure on. BIL is pretty well off and would hand it over happily. Other SIL is thinking more like DH, but is also feeling the pressure.

Should I stick to my guns? Suggest we give a smaller amount (but then DH will feel stingy)? Tell SIL1 to stop asking about it (although this will cause a big row and DH will be upset)? Or stay out of it (but risk DH committing us to the full amount)?

OP posts:
Andtheresaw · 26/10/2017 17:05

crispie cake wedding cake? Excellent plan!

...or pizzas

...or doughnuts Grin

....but no money out of your house fund. Oh no!

AIBU to not want to pay towards SIL's wedding?
AIBU to not want to pay towards SIL's wedding?
AIBU to not want to pay towards SIL's wedding?
RavenclawRealist · 26/10/2017 17:05

Simple and to the point
'unfortunately as we are saving to try and buy a house we are not able to help. I'm sure SIL will still have a great day celebrating with her family.'

Don't get into who got what. Don't make it about her not working/FIL being shit with money. Make it about what it is you and your priorities which are completely reasonable!

Santawontbelong · 26/10/2017 17:06

Make little crispy cakes with letters on the top spelling out 'CONGRATULATIONS'
And naff all else. .

BalloonSlayer · 26/10/2017 17:06

Suggest the following: As we know, PILs originally hoped to be able to help with house deposits and wedding costs, which is lovely. But they are not able to regarding SIL2's wedding. So, to be fair, I propose we should all contribute back to SIL2, 20% of what PILs and the family gave us for house deposits and when we got married. So that's £8000 from SIL1, £20 from BIL1 and zero from DH and Other SIL. Sounds fair - because it means SIL2 gets a fifth of the money that PILs were able to give, which is what they intended. So, SIL1, you get to keep £32,000 of what you were given, BIL you get to keep your £80 and DH and OSIL get to keep the nothing whatsoever they were given. Don't worry though, SIL1, we won't be coming asking for our 20%, LOL

ohfourfoxache · 26/10/2017 17:08

Not a fucking chance!

schoolgaterebel · 26/10/2017 17:10

'No, we can't afford to contribute towards SIL's wedding, we are saving for own future'

OP did your DH's family contribute towards your wedding?

HolyShet · 26/10/2017 17:10

Tell SIL 1 straight
You got £40k for wedding and house deposit
BIL got £100. We paid for our own wedding and are still saving for our house deposit
Hence, we are all a lot skinter than you

We love SIL2 too, and PILs we want everyone to have a lovely wedding as a family occasion. Therefore we'd like to offer to buy the cake as our gift.

And this is the key bit In fact we've already offered this to SIL2

MidnightAura · 26/10/2017 17:11

No way. If parents in law are “embarrassed” about SIL having a small wedding, they can fund it!

No bloody way would I pay for a siblings wedding when saving for a house deposit. Families may be close but that’s not a free pass for manipulation. If your SIL wants a huge extravagant wedding then she pays for it herself, her siblings shouldn’t foot the bill.

DarthMaiden · 26/10/2017 17:11

The idea is madness.

Handing over money you’ve been saving for a house for a showy wedding - just bonkers.

Sounds to me like the whole bloody family need to wake up and start living a lifestyle appropriate to their means.

You have to put your foot down. This sets a very dangerous precedent. What next? You all chip in for christening parties? Wedding anniversary parties etc so that everyone can “appear” to be at the appropriate economic scale?

In the meantime your still paying rent whilst funding the lifestyle choices of the rest of his family?

If as a family you “all stick together” then rather than blowing money on a wedding why doesn’t everyone throw a few grand in your direction to help with a deposit....nope not going to happen is it.

It’s just greed and entitlement. She needs to start saving for the wedding of her choice or review her budget.

BewareOfDragons · 26/10/2017 17:11

No.

And your DH and his brother should make it VERY clear to DSis1 that if anyone is in the position of being able to help DSis2, it's her as she had a big wedding paid for and a house deposit, whereas the rest of you received exactly nothing.

The audacity!

Not to mention Dsis2 has no business expecting a fancy wedding when she's not even working! If she wants one, tell her to suck it up and get a job like everyone else.

PinkDaffodil2 · 26/10/2017 17:13

Help the amount you are happy to help, but keep it separate from the rest of the family and don't get drawn into who's had / got / is owed what. I like the cake idea, or something else specific that you can gift to help out. Maybe sparking wine for the toast, just choose something to your budget so you can shut down the conversation.

Topseyt · 26/10/2017 17:13

Hell would freeze over before I would do this.

DarthMaiden · 26/10/2017 17:16

It’s not too dissimilar to the Hairzilla thread really.

Someone having the audacity to spend someone else’s money to make themselves look better.

If SIL wants to contribute to the wedding that’s her choice, but she can’t expect or guilt into other siblings doing the same.

AdalindSchade · 26/10/2017 17:17

This isn't a lovely close family, it's a toxic mess. They don't talk about money? Too right they don't, if they started talking they wouldn't be so fond of each other would they!
Like fuck do you spend your savings for a house deposit on some spoilt princess who thinks she's above getting a job. Insanity.

Aeroflotgirl · 26/10/2017 17:18

Noway, what a grabby woman she is.

numbmum83 · 26/10/2017 17:19

I was reading this post with an open mouth at the sheer cheek. Your DH needs to think about where his loyalties lie . Are the siblings going to help you if you become homeless ? You need a house more than a sibling needs a wedding .
I would find the whole situation very unfair and he has nothing at all to feel guilty about .
I can't actually believe I've read this , tell sibling1 to pay seeing as she has benefited most from the situation and now has the cheek to get the begging bowl out . Seems like family loyalty only goes one way ...

HornyTortoise · 26/10/2017 17:23

Absolutely crazy that this has even been suggested, let alone considered!

I would go absolutely crazy if DH was considering even fleetingly on spending our house deposit on a big party. Which is basically all that fancy weddings are. Lovely if you can afford it, but a pisstake when expecting others to fund it. If SIL1 is feeling flush, let her fund it herself. Especially given she was given 20k for her own, along with 20k for her deposit too.

HolyShet · 26/10/2017 17:24

Broken record time:

"Sorry, we just don't have it to give because we're saving up for a deposit to buy a home"

Puzzledandpissedoff · 26/10/2017 17:26

tell sibling1 to pay seeing as she has benefited most from the situation and now has the cheek to get the begging bowl out

Actually, part of me wonders if PILs have suggested exactly that ... and if SIL1, in a panic, is trying to spread the load?

FWIW I admire the idea about leaving "who's had what" out of it, but doubt it will be possible with family dynamics like this. Let's face it, it's a hell of a big elephant to ignore

ReginaBlitzkreig · 26/10/2017 17:28

"outhouse Bake Off", Schadenfreude? How did I miss that !

RedForFilth · 26/10/2017 17:28

I wouldn’t mention the money SIL 1 had or what you didn't have. It isn't really relevant. What is relevant is what the bride and groom to be can afford since it is their wedding. If they really love each other and really want to get married then they the actual wedding day shouldn't matter.

You and your husband don't have any money to give away as you are saving up for a house deposit so you can have a secure roof over your heads. Anyone who doesn't understand and respect that needs to fuck off imo. If others want to contribute off their own backs then that's grand, let them crack on. Obviously I don't know the bride and groom to be but I'd be so embarrassed if others financed my wedding and house, especially if they felt forced to do so!

expatinscotland · 26/10/2017 17:29

There is zero fucking way I'd be bullied into handing over that kind of money for someone else's fucking party, especially when that someone can't even be arsed to work. I'd tell SIL1, 'NO. We're saving for a house deposit. She'll need to fund her own wedding.' And that would be it. All her talk about 'close family' and such would be like water on a duck's back. I'd tell her 'Close stops when it comes to the joint savings I have with my husband/wife. We're putting every penny towards a house for ourselves.' Over and over. She wants to pay for some party she is free to do so.

bluebells1 · 26/10/2017 17:29

OP, like everyone else has said you should not agree to what SIL1 says. Something similar happened in my DH's family and he stupidly said I am ok to chip in a little bit for Dsis's wedding and was thinking more like 500-1000 pounds. His Sis decided that the amount is more like 5K and planned a wedding based on that. Well, I put a quick stop to that. I am still the 'evil SIL' who robbed her of a fairytale wedding. That's OK, I can live with that.

ChickenMom · 26/10/2017 17:30

Nope. Big fat nope. Tell her straight "you do realise we haven't had a single penny from your parents right? You are the only child to have had a wedding and flat paid for. You know that right? So the only way we can help is by taking from our house deposit savings which have cost us blood, sweat and tears to save and means we would have to put buying a house back by 5 years. Do you think that's right to do that for a wedding that is just one day? Your requests and the way you say things are causing a lot of heartache and angst in your family. Please stop. You've had lots of money from your parents. Only you. If therefore you want to contribute then that's lovely and just and right but the rest of us are not the same as you. Please please please stop"

Then see what happens.

HornyTortoise · 26/10/2017 17:32

I do wonder how on earth people justify spending so much on weddings. Fair enough if on high wages and that, but DHs cousin recently got married and went into thousands upon thousands of debt for a fancy party, during which he and the bride fell out over money, and there was a fistfight. On the other hand me and DH managed to get married for under 500 and everyone had a decent day, or at least said they did...no burst lips anyway. Even paying 500 quid for a party seemed a lot to me but I am a bit of a scrooge xD

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