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Can a sexless marriage really 'work'?

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HampshireHog · 12/04/2007 20:04

I'm a regular on here but have changed my name for this one. Have been married for eight years and together with my husband for ten. We have two young children. Since I got pregnant with my first child about five years ago, he has really gone off sex. I can count on one hand (truly)how many times we have had sex in the past five years, so much so that when I got pregnant with my second child, I knew exactly when, where and how it happened. We are reasonably happily married, have a good life, good health, enough money etc but we don't have sex. I would like sex and I know he wanks - a lot. We do not sleep in the same room let alone the same bed - he has huge problems getting to sleep and then if he is woken up finds it very difficult to get back off again. I know I have let myself 'go' over the years but he says this is not a problem though he would like it if I lost some weight. I'm no oil painting but he is not Brad Pitt so no real problems there. I want sex though. I'm in my mid thirties and although we are reasonably happy together I do not want to spend the rest of my life like this. Has anyone else got experience of a sexless marriage. How do you cope with it?

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PregnantGrrrl · 16/04/2007 14:30

i think so. he pretty level headed. i went to see a different counsellor after that on my own- she didn't insist on seeing DP either. she was amazing- turned out she'd had a similar relationship so knew exactly where i was coming from. she helped me see (most days) that given the choice between sex with DP, or no DP, i'd rather be with him. Some days are tough though- like yesterday.

seeing as i'm pregnant now and getting married in 2 mths i don't think we'll see anyone for about a year- so much going on. something's got to give eventually- i don't want to be one of those wives living without sexual contact for years. it scares me.

hereiam · 16/04/2007 14:36

Well... I am that person and yes, it is scary. So keep it on your mind... I think you must love your husband to be very very much. I had no idea I had a prob when I was courting or first got married.

DixiePixie · 16/04/2007 14:44

Hiya

Just a note to say something positive about Sex Therapists - when it's a therapist you can trust who is fully accredited.

My dh and I have had problems with him going off sex and me feeling completely unattractive and depressed. I'm glad that this is being discussed here, because when it's that way round you can really feel like you are alone. It's not something that most people feel comfortable admitting. After all, society says that men are all supposed to have these voracious sex drives, so there is often a lot of shame for both partners when things break down like this.

We saw a properly fully accredited Sex Therapist for a while and it really helped. Interestingly, what got us sexual again was the sex therapist banning sex altogether and giving us homework exercises in touching one another in a non-sexual way for a few weeks so that we were able to rediscover one another in a sensual way and to build up a physical intimacy and enjoy one another's bodies without the spectre of sex getting in the way. I say spectre, because from not having sex for so long and the recriminations that followed, the sex act itself had become surrounded in loads of anxiety and pressure for us both. Doing the exercises was in turns lovely although sometimes brought up a bit of loss and anger in us both, which we were able to bring up in therapy and work through. Most of the time, the intimacy of the exercises we did brought us closer together and to desire one another again. In fact, it went so well that we ended up cheating on the no sex rule, which was how our dd was conceived

Unfortunately we had to stop going when I became pregnant, because the therapist didn't think I would be in the right place hormonally and emotionally to continue whilst pregnant, so the process has gone back a few steps for us. In some ways it feels like we're back to square one and I find myself getting depressed, but really I know that is not the case, because it is something we can get back and there is hope. DD is still very small, so we haven't had the energy or time yet to get our sex life back on track, but we will.

I just asked my dh where he found the therapist, and he says it was through an organisation called BASRT (the British Association for Sexual Relationship Therapists). Which I imagine would be google-able.

It's realy important to see a therapist that you trust. Try and find out what their qualifications are and what their experience as a therapist has been. It's a real shame PregnantGrrrl that the counsellor you saw made your DP feel that way. It's a really sensitive issue and needs handling accordingly!

It took us a while to go and get help. When bringing up the issue with my dh, I found it was more productive when I didn't lay blame but spoke about us both having problems connecting, which ultimately was what it was. It can often be quite difficult for a man to admit there is a problem, just because he thinks his manhood is in question.

Anyway, I am in the same boat as lots of you on the loss of dh's desire thing, but I can see that there is light at the end of the tunnel. Hope this helps

hereiam · 16/04/2007 14:56

Dixiepixie... that was a thought provoking post.

I agree it has to be handled very sensitively because the most powerful sexual organ is actually the mind.

And yes it is good to 'let it out' on here... for every thread like this there are just hundreds that are more likely to be 'my husband won't leave me alone'. I wish....

When I read threads like this I am so envious and just want to post 'think yourselves lucky'. I know its all to do with mismatched sex drives etc but when it is this way round... it can become a dirty secret because it is not the 'norm'. For us, it is now The Great Unspoken Subject we dare not talk about.

hereiam · 16/04/2007 14:57

meant to say when I read posts like that ... not this one!

PregnantGrrrl · 16/04/2007 15:21

i know what you mean hereiam- whenever i try to find info on low sex drive etc, it's always aimed at women not men having the 'problem', which only makes DP and I feel more abnormal.

i hope everything works out well for us all though. fingers crossed

lazyanna · 16/04/2007 15:22

hereiam - I am not sure that I understand what you are jealous of, am sorry, perhaps I am not following things here properly. I would be lying if I said that my DH was happy with things as they are now, but if anything I hope that this proves my point that sex is not only just not the be all and end all of a marriage, but really just an irrelevance.

hereiam · 16/04/2007 15:23

lazyanna... i am jealous of couples whose husbands fancy the pants of their wives, that's all.

hereiam · 16/04/2007 15:24

and I don't consider sex to be a total irrelevance in a marriage... but maybe I would say that, given my circs.

PregnantGrrrl · 16/04/2007 15:24

me too hereiam, terribly jealous. would rather i was fighting him off!

hereiam · 16/04/2007 15:25

can't type today....!!! fancy the pants off their wives!

PregnantGrrrl · 16/04/2007 15:25

an irrelevance?!

how can something which can (for the right people) bring closeness, satisfaction, happiness, babies etc etc be an irrelevance?

hereiam · 16/04/2007 15:26

my best girlfriend who I have known for 30 years...

she has been married 25 years and her husband can't keep his hands off her. How wonderful is that? She loves the attention... sometimes she gives in, sometimes she doesn't. To be so desired must be truly wonderful

PregnantGrrrl · 16/04/2007 15:28

what pees me off is that i get lots of attention from elsewhere (which i would never, never act upon) so then i look at DP and think, 'well what's up with me in your eyes then?'

of course he can't help it, but i still pees me off.

Boco · 16/04/2007 15:29

I haven't read the whole thread so sorry if i'm repeating anything, - just wandered if anyone had seen the article in the observer about Joan Sewell who has just written this book

She argues that women just aren't into sex as much as men. I didn't really agree with her generalisations about relationships and sex - as it's clear from the posts on this thread that she's making some false assumptions about men and women - but thought the book might be interesting to someone?

hereiam · 16/04/2007 15:32

Boco.. will look thanks.

Of course, everyone is different.

Pregnantgirrl - know what you mean... I look in the mirror and think 'am I that revolting?

Elena02 · 16/04/2007 21:12

Thanks for the useful advice.

Hereiam - I won´t give up and am sorry to hear it took you so much time and trouble to resolve things. But it´s great you´re still together. Did you eventually persuade him to see a sex therapist?

Pregnantgrrl - hope you manage to sort everything after the pregnancy. Sounds like you´re both willing and keen to work on it, so that´s positive.

I am also jealous of all those women who complain their husbands won´t leave them alone! I read the "sex-starved marriage" book and that along with everything else I´ve ever read on the subject always makes out it´s almost always supposed to be that way around .. so as you say it´s great to discover there are other women out with the same problem

I also had no idea we´d ever have problems during the courting/prebaby phase, i.e. until after the birth of our ds. Then 18 months later we were just beginning to get our act together, but on the second or third attempt I conceived my dd and that was the end of it for the past four years, apart from once on holiday over a year ago (still not quite sure how that happened).

Before it used to happen spontaneously, i.e. often first thing in the morning (not an option now with kids charging into bedroom at 7am!) or in the afternoon or anytime, now with the little ones we need to set aside some time to be intimate but that never happens due to exhaustion, chores, tv to watch, newspapers to read, dinner to eat, etc. And whenever we do try I feel he´s just making an effort for me, rather than really wanting to, and then when we fail to connect, I just feel even worse and that makes me more nervous about trying again.

Having children just makes the whole matter worse, as if it weren´t for them I´d probably have given up by now or had an affair or something .. but then if it weren´t for them we probably wouldn´t be in this situation!

hereiam · 16/04/2007 21:56

Elena... you sound positive and thats good. I hope it works out for you... don't give up!

Yes.. we are still together but its still not sorted... and I feel quite bitter about it now. No... my DH wouldn't get help. That's why I was stressing with you to sort it out now. It is too easy to put your life on hold when you have little ones, but they grow up and need you less (hard to imagine I know... but it does happen!)... and then the problem comes back tenfold.

Good luck

madamez · 16/04/2007 22:45

Elena: certainly what threads like this show is the utter uselessness of most "gendered' sex manuals, which always seem to be acting on the assumption that 'men do this' and 'women do that' even when five minutes of proper study (or even just asking a few people) would show that things like low libido are not a gender-linked problem. SYmpathies to all of you having difficulties and best of luck in finding ways that work for you and your individual households to fix things.

SuGaRCoAteDPoiSOn · 17/04/2007 00:03

I was in an almost sexless relationship for 7 years.. at first it was because he was working long hours.. he changed his job to one with more normal hours but the situation was the same.. sex maybe once a month and there was very little enthusiasm from his side, it just felt as tho he was going thru the motions to please me. My self esteem hit the floor and I became very depressed, eventually he opened up and told me that he just had a very low sex drive and that i was free to go and have as many one night stands as I wanted. This made me feel really cheap and as tho he didn't really care about me, but I did it, spent about a year whoring around every weekend and was still miserable.

As time went on he moved to sleeping on the sofa, we barely spoke, spent no time together and eventually I met someone else and he moved out.

I still have issues with my self esteem from that time and I do often feel as tho I must be very ugly and unattractive, but then again, I've bagged a gorgeous Colin Farrell lookielikie who's 12 years younger than me so I can't be that bad?

No advice really, just wanted to share as another one of the 'secretly sexless'

btw Lazyanna, it sounds as tho while you're quite happy with the no sex thing, your husband has other views, how will you deal with it when it becomes a serious issue for him?

lazyanna · 17/04/2007 08:50

Poison - why would it become an issue? Men's libidos only go down with age, happily.

PregnantGrrrl · 17/04/2007 09:02

your husband must really love you lazyanna.

mumto3girls · 17/04/2007 09:09

Lazyanna...my mother works in an old people's home looking after geriatrics...sadly for your hubby i can assure you that your assumption about mens libido fading with age is very wrong.....

PregnantGrrrl · 17/04/2007 09:13

and it's not just about libido. there's love, affection, closeness...

i'm rapidly becoming convinced lazyanna is an elaborate troll

mumto3girls · 17/04/2007 09:17

No Lazyanna has been here for a while and is quite happy to describe her relationship. Her needs and wishes come before her husbands - simple as that...it all has to be on her terms as she sees no fair compromise.

Apparently even once every year is too much.

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