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I just want to moan about selfish DH

202 replies

N0RA · 01/10/2017 09:51

I'm feeling a bit sorry for myself and want to talk to someone who will understand.

I know DH is completely selfish and our marriage is dead but some things just bring it home.

Last night we were all out playing in a local sports event - me DH and three kids - 12,14 and 16. It's very unusual for him to come out with us, the last time we did this was several years ago.

Unfortunately another person ran into me , knocked me over and I and split my head open. I had to be carried off amid much drama and blood and my kids were really scared.

DH behaved ok at the event, the first aiders told him to take to me to hospital and he agreed to do so. The most important thing in his life is looking good to strangers so he never acts up in front of people.

BTW Home, hospital and sports venue are all about two miles apart ( this is relevant ) .

He fetched the car without complaining ( in front of the staff) and brought it round as I couldn't walk very well and the first aid people put me in it. However as soon as I got in I could tell he was really cross.

He's very passive agressive, he doesn't argue usually, just does things wrong or " forgets " .

He was annoyed and obviously wanted to go home first so I could get my own car and drive myself to the hospital, so he didn't have to come for me later. So he " forgot " and took the route home so I had to "remind " him to go to the hospital, because I wasn't nearly well enough to drive.

Then he got " confused " about how to find the A&E department - it's a small well signposted modern hospital which he's been to dozens of time . So I knew he was really angry.

DH was just going to drop me on my own but 16yo wanted to come with me as all the children were worried. So that was fine.

DH wanted to leave me at the drop off area but 16yo couldnt manage to push me in the A&E wheelchair so he had to push me in ( she didn't realise you have to pull and not push ) .

Then he was annoyed that he had to check me in at the desk because I was too confused and bleeding everywhere from my head. On reflection I realise he could have asked DD to do this, but the receptionist was asking him and not her ( unsurprisingly I guess as she's a teenager and he's a grown man ) . So he gave them my wrong date of birth and address and they couldn't find me on their system.

He does all these things as part of punishing me for inconveniencing him, when in fact all it did was delay him even longer - it took him 10 mins when it could have taken 5. But if you pointed that out to him he would become even more angry.

So as soon as they found my details he left and took the other kids home.

Everything was fine in A&E, I got seen immediately and treated relatively quickly ( given that it wasn't serious ) and sent home about midnight.

However DH was obviously annoyed at having to come and collect us so he had let his phone go flat ( hes obsessed by his phone, he NEVER lets it run out of power) andhe didn't answer the house phone as he was busy ( watching TV).

I knew there was no chance of a taxi for hours at closing time on a Saturday night. We Started to walk home as it's only a couple of miles and I was feeling much less shaky by then and we ( me and DD ) are both pretty fit. But DD was upset so , unknown to me, she texted her younger brother on his mobile to get dad to come for us. So we had only walked about 1/4 mile when he arrived, very cross.

He's very resentful at having been thwarted so I know he will take it out on me and the kids . He will feel that I have backed him into a corner by forcing him to come out late at night to pick us up.

And today he's even more pissed off because I've not to drive for 24 hours and he has to take the kids to their usual activities.

He's especially annoyed it it's the Grand Prix which he always watches.

I'm sitting in bed feeling sorry for myself worrying about how he's going to take it out on me today. My guess is that he'll take the children late to their events ( his usual if he's asked to do anything) and he'll punish me later for sure.

He's pretty shit really isn't he? It looks worse now I've written it all down.

OP posts:
Deathraystare · 01/10/2017 18:52

As someone else said, at least the children know what he is like! That was very dangerous walking home after a head injury. Would he have cared if you suddenly got worse? NOPE

PashPash · 01/10/2017 18:56

Why on earth is being with him better than being alone?

Your entire existence (and it is just an existence not a life) is spent putting him and his whims first,last and everything in between.

You could sack him off and have a great life as a singleton. Going out, socialising, hobbies, friends, holidays, volunteering. Free from that soul sucking dementor.

ChocolatePHD · 01/10/2017 19:18

Living a separate life with the kids having visits is not the same as you all living with him full time, with a horrible atmosphere and everyone having to tiptoe around him.

DarthMaiden · 01/10/2017 19:21

I agree it’s not an easy decision to leave.

However to cover your points....

Whether you meet someone else or not you are in fact “alone” already. Being alone without him and being released from the stress of constantly having to second guess every move to keep him happy sounds like blessed relief. Equally you might meet someone if you’ve got the time and independence to do so. People meet under the most surprising of situations- you don’t have to imagine a future of speed dating.....

Regarding the children. Yes he might have them EOW (but frankly I suspect that’s a high estimate given he’d actually have to put himself out). What they’d learn from this is how bloody selfish he is when you are not there to pick up the pieces. Yes they’d still see his “influence” but unless he’s going to change his spots what they will see is what he is.

He’ll forget to get them placed on time, with the right things. He won’t honour obligations because the F1 is on, he will cancel visits because they inconvenience him.

They will understand why you left and why that type of behaviour isn’t normal in a relationship. They will tire of his crap and probably reduce contact themselves frankly.

Staying with him, you are normalising to them that this is acceptable. It’s a shit ticket either way wrt to letting your kids experience his crap without your presence or staying with him. However wrt the former they at least learn that his behaviour has consequences and isn’t part of the dynamic of a good relationship.

As it is I strongly suspect your eldest DD has him well and truest sussed out already.

TheLegendOfBeans · 01/10/2017 19:44

If you don't leave him he will put you into an early grave. My XH had the genesis of this behaviour and I terminated the marriage at 31. So I left before I had children.

The point I am saying is that at only 31 I thought the stain of living with him would advance me into an early grave; the stress he put me under every day, the coiled spring in the chest - when I left him several folk remarked within weeks how I was the most relaxed they'd seen me in years. I cannot imagine how you must feel after decades of this.

Next point: your previous solicitor was a fucking idiot. But you will need a shit hot lawyer as you're dealing with a grade A wanker here who will try and punish you (and the DC) hard.

Shop around for a lawyer. Most initial consultations are free. You think he's the actor of the century and that his charm wins every time. It won't. Divorce lawyers have seen it all. They can smell a genuinely unreasonable shit at fifty paces.

You know your marriage is over and I think you're at a crossroads. I guess you're shit scared of starting the process and I would be too. But as Darths post illustrates, life truly and really is too short.

I also absolutely and profoundly believe that a life spent in abusive conditions can directly contribute to the advancement and nastiness of chronic illnesses.

I wish you well OP but please, please shop around for legal advice and representation. And when the time comes the money you spend will - in totality - be nothing compared to the riches of freedom.

TheLegendOfBeans · 01/10/2017 19:46

Ps: this is a statement of the blindingly obvious but he's a cunt and a wanker and you will absolutely NOT be the only person to have cottoned on to his shit.

SkaTastic · 01/10/2017 19:54

God you sound so beaten down by him. You were hurt and he was cross with you. What kind of a person does that? I am so sad for you and your children.

moreginpleasex · 01/10/2017 19:58

God he sounds horrible get rid!
I know it's not that easy but do you want to feel miserable for the rest of your life.

CosmicPineapple · 01/10/2017 19:59

Christ please leave this man. He does not deserve to have you in his life. You deserve so much more.

meowimacat · 01/10/2017 20:01

What an AWFUL man and it reminds me so much of my ex who I left not long ago who would act like a hero/great dad/partner in front of others, but then when we were alone it was a different story.

Do you think this man loves or cares for you? Not at all. You deserve better even if that means being by yourself. Really think about things - the amount of people that have commented here just shows you how many of us are shocked by what you're putting up with. It's not on, but if you allow it to happen it will always continue.

Whisky2014 · 01/10/2017 20:29

He won't want the kids every other week because he will have to care for them nd that's an I convenience to him. Don't worry about that. Also, if you do leave him I have no doubt he will tell you many horrible things like he will go for full custody, you have mental health issues etc etc. Just ignore him, nothing will come of it and it's just a tactic to put you back in your place. Please please leave him though

N0RA · 01/10/2017 21:51

I don't think he loves or cares for me at all, in fact I think he despises me. At least that's how he treats me. And I've been on MN long enough to listen to his actions rather than his words ( not that he says otherwise anyway ).

And I don't think that it's better to be with him than be alone. My concerns are about the process of forcing him to leave the house, the divorce and how he will punish me and the children, the upheaval during DD exams etc. It's also very complicated with my job as we work together so I would have to leave.

And I know that passive agressive men like him enjoy very high conflict divorces, whereas I struggle with any kind of conflict ( you have probably guessed that ) .

I think the only reasons he's in the family home are :

He likes the domestic servicing
He hates living alone and he doesn't have anyone lined up to move in with him
He's worried that people will think it's his fault , as that's his second broken marriage
He likes the image of being a family man
He's worried about the financial impact of divorce. I suspect he knows that because of various factors, a court would award me more than half of the assets.

I don't kid myself that he gives a flying fuck about me. And he's certainly not overly concerned about the kids.

OP posts:
ChocolatePHD · 01/10/2017 21:57

Nora stop doing any household servicing for him as a start point. And plan your move from there. Arrange to see a lawyer etc. It is not better for your kids for you to put up with this any longer.

bastardkitty · 01/10/2017 22:03

A passive aggressive man moves on to the next victim partner as soon as they get a whiff that they are done for. My ex joined a dating app the day I told him we were over. You are very right NORA about high conflict divorces. But once he knows you mean business, he will find someone so he can feel that he's not the problem.

Crumblevision · 01/10/2017 22:12

Nora your OP gave me chills. Please leave this toxic bastard. Your children will know what is going on. Good luck Flowers

Theoscargoesto · 01/10/2017 22:22

Nora, I rarely post here: only when truly moved by a thread.
I am posting now.
Look at all the posts here, believing and supporting you. I appreciate that you have been beaten down and (albeit quietly) bullied and browbeaten, and that must leave one with a sense of weakness, and frailty. And you have had, frankly, crappy legal advice so far, and so I can understand how you might feel powerless to change things.

But we DO believe you, and we individually and collectively believe that your h is abusive and that you deserve so much more than the life you now have, treading on eggshells and in dread. And your children deserve more too (I, like a previous poster, think your DD ringing a sibling when your h didn't answer the house phone, is telling in terms of what they see and understand).

You only have one life, please don't live it like this. Please take courage, please take advice, please find a way out.

DarthMaiden · 01/10/2017 22:30

NORA I really think your start point is to find a great lawyer.

Go see a few people. Some specialise in abuse cases and will have seen every scenario you could possibly imagine.

At least understanding what your options are might help reassure some of your concerns about how he will behave and what he can do.

I’ve no doubt he won’t make life easy. That’s not his MO is it? It’s all about his life/wants being put first so he’ll do the same wrt any separation.

You’ll have some hard battles to fight I’m sure, but the thing is you will “win” the war having got rid of him.

paddlenorapaddle · 01/10/2017 22:49

Nora

This a truly sad op, you've had lots of words of wisdom would just like to add don't over estimate the how far he's pulled the wool over people's eyes I wouldn't be surprised if their aren't a few of your friends who a just waiting for you to get shot of him

Can you start looking for a new job ?

BumWad · 01/10/2017 23:12

Your opening post is one of the saddest things I have ever read on MN Sad

Please leave him

springydaffs · 01/10/2017 23:34

That vile lawyer you saw - s/he sentenced you to more years with your revolting, abusive, hellish husband.

Contact Women's Aid 0808 2000 247. Or your local WA office - look on their site to get the contact details.

Do the Freedom Programme. It's free. It's wonderful. It'll get your head straight in record time. You'll meet others in the same position - all great women btw. It is an empowering course.

Yy my husband was charm personified to everyone else. Most people were besotted with him, no one knew what he was really like. Women's Aid were lifesavers for me. I don't think I would have got out without them. Do call them, talk it through. They are realistic Nora, they don't force they know it's not an easy straightforward thing to leave (or it doesn't feel easy and straightforward..). They also have a list of lawyers who understand domestic abuse - unlike the awful lawyer you saw before, who pressed you further into the swamp Angry

MANY of us have got out of relationships like this. You can do it. If I can, anybody can, frankly. Please don't think your husband is the only one like this or that you are the only one suffering like this: there are hoards of people who are in a relationship like yours. Abusers aren't very original, they're all the same.

Nora, if you can't do it for you, PLEASE do it for your kids. This situation is damaging them much more than you realise. Get in touch with Women's Aid asap. They won't force, they'll come alongside. When you get to see a decent lawyer you will see you have much more power and rights than you realise.

cestlavielife · 01/10/2017 23:34

The dc are old enough to decide to see him or not.
Look for a rental. move out with dc . If it s small they will manage. then get a good lawyer to get a good divorce
And a good settlement share of house whatever

Framboise18 · 01/10/2017 23:49

Sounds like your partner is very narcissistic please get the courage to leave if not for you do it for the kids xxxx

ManchesterGin · 02/10/2017 00:11

I agree, I rarely post but your original post is so heartbreaking. I can't believe you have to live like that. I hope you find the strength to leave him and enjoy the rest of your life with your children.

springydaffs · 02/10/2017 00:17

local womens aid

Search for the Freedom Programme near you

Apileofballyhoo · 02/10/2017 00:19

Are you sure you would have to leave work? Do you directly work with him?

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