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situation with my colleague

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MortalEnemy · 21/09/2017 19:05

Let me start by saying that I am over 40, but if I sound like the most clueless of teenagers, that is because I am in relationships terms -- I was with the same man from my teens until a couple of years ago, and as I've been single since, and am the busy working parent of a demanding small child with no evening childcare, as a result I have pretty much zero experience of relationships, flirting etc.

Which is why I'm finding this confusing and talking to a bunch of strangers on the internet about it.

I've been in my current job at a large organisation (being deliberately vague) for just over a year. Over the last two or three months, I've found myself feeling close to a colleague from another department with whom I have intermittent meetings/dealings, after only vaguely registering him as a nice guy before that. Recently we seem to end up drifting together at any events we're both at, and falling into conversations which end up often being very long and wide-ranging, and often end up hovering by the lifts or in the corridor talking more, if it's something at the end of the day.

I thought I was overthinking this while I was away over the summer, but now it seems to be becoming more frequent, if anything, and the conversations more personal. It's a busy period at work, with a weekend event and a conference we both had to attend, and in the last five workdays alone, we must have spent four or five hours talking at a reception/on the way out of the building/on the way to the car park. I'm finding myself thinking about him more and more, and realised I find him attractive. He's 48, clever, funny, observant, and kind, and apparently amiably divorced, but clearly a besotted and very involved father to teenagers.

The issue, I suppose is that I'm completely confused about what this means. The last time I was in this situation I was 18, pretty and confident, and I was falling in love with the man I married. Now I am in my 40s, no looker, and my confidence has taken a big knocking for various reasons in the last five years, when I found parenthood tough, my career foundered, my marriage ended and I haven't been particularly happy -- my marriage was celibate for the last few years, and I have not thought of myself as someone who could be considered attractive for a very long time. I also have none of the basic comprehension of men that an average, single 40something woman has. At some level I am terrified, but mostly what I feel is as though I'm a beginner at a language everyone else seems to speak fluently.

How on earth do you know if someone reciprocates your feelings? How can you tell the difference between someone who likes you as a workmate and someone who is developing stronger feelings for you? I have butterflies. I'm off my food. When someone says his name I get a rush of pleasure. I am a teenager in the body of a 42 year old professional.

I realise this probably sounds like a complete non-problem to anyone with experience of adult dating, but despite being a functioning adult I am absolutely unable to conceive that anyone would find me attractive, and while we gravitate to one another when we encounter one another at work and can't stop talking, it's always 'accidental'. He's very self-deprecating, and I sense he's been out of the game for a while, too. I'm especially wary because presuming something about a workmate could have horrible consequences. Also, we're both originally from the same country, though have lived in the UK most of our adult lives, so I wonder whether this might just be nostalgia for 'home' from him. But then I think of all the times when an hour suddenly melted away just standing in the corridor, and the fact that he remembers absolutely everything I tell him.

Thank you for struggling through this any advice? How does this sound to you? What would you do? A bit of me hopes you will all say 'predictable office crush all in your head no basis in reality, no need to do anything'.

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MortalEnemy · 11/12/2017 06:30

It is, Tarty. Weather permitting — conditions are still treacherous around here today, and DD’s school and childcare are closed, so I’m going to have to try to skype into my meetings from home (and not see R.) Woe.

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badbadhusky · 11/12/2017 06:53

Absence makes the heart grow fonder....

Also, I’m thinking work-related skyping with R during snowmageddon sets a nice precedent for other skyping. Wink

minnymoobear · 11/12/2017 07:02

AWWw good luck at Xmas party! Love that you’re in liking with him :)

And pls be ready to start new thread and leave room to add link in this one!!

KeziaOAP · 11/12/2017 10:44

Yes, if I remember correctly you jokingly asked R to save you from the men in shorts, he's come good Wink

Apileofballyhoo · 11/12/2017 11:40

R asked to sit together Xmas Grin

Waddlelikeapenguin · 11/12/2017 11:43

R asked to sit together

Now if that's not a declaration i dont know what is Grin

MortalEnemy · 11/12/2017 12:49

I think that the idea that I might be leaving shook him far more than I expected, and possibly more than he expected, and he's been for him suddenly very upfront about the fact that I matter to him, once in person after the 'Don't go. Don't go. Don't go' email, and in a few emails since that it's obvious he agonised over. But as I said up the thread, what exactly is driving that isn't clear to me, and that's OK with me for the moment. To be honest, I still find myself opening my email and rereading phrases in some of those mails to see whether I remember them right. He said something so tender in one on Friday evening that I keep staring at it disbelievingly. Blush

(Working from home is really weird -- especially with DD bugging me to come out and build snowmen, especially when it's being sung Frozen-style: 'D'you wanna build a SNOWMAAAAN?')

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Mix56 · 11/12/2017 13:02

I know, I know, You could ask him "What would he like for Xmas"..... ?!
:o)

MortalEnemy · 11/12/2017 13:18

You were the one telling me to slow down a page ago. Mix!Grin

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LaContessaDiPlump · 11/12/2017 13:23

I am loving this thread Grin it would make a wonderful 6-part series for Sunday evenings as we approach Christmas.....

ferrier · 11/12/2017 13:31

Aww Mortal. The thought of some tender lines from Friday's email have made me come over all mushy! I hope you sent something suitably tender back ..... ?

MyOtherProfile · 11/12/2017 13:49

O my goodness he is really saying something now!

Mix56 · 11/12/2017 14:28

I know, but it was a flash of genius, after the Xmas party, you could just give him "come on Tiger" look, & ask ........ :o)

StealthNinjaMum · 11/12/2017 15:11

The dress sounds lovely Mortal

did you have a bra intervention? Bikini line done?

MortalEnemy · 11/12/2017 16:53

No to both. My childminder has been ill, work is quite mad, and I am getting up before 6 am everyday and falling into bed after midnight just to keep the show on the road. There has literally not been a moment in which I could deviate to do something unnecessary on my way home, which is why I do all my shopping from groceries to party dresses online.

No, I lie, I discovered you now had to make an appointment for a bra fitting when I dashed into M and S with a scant five minutes to spare. There's a famous Mn bra intervention, isn't there? Can someone link? If I can measure myself, and order online via Amazon Prime, we're fine, but I'm just going to have to heroically refrain from seducing R at the party if the natural state of my intimate topiary is an issue.

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badbadhusky · 11/12/2017 17:03

I would argue that if you’re not a fan of complicated topiary and won’t maintain it in a LTR, you may as well go au naturel. If he’s the kind of bloke for whom it is a dealbreaker, you may as well know at the outset. Grin

Mix56 · 11/12/2017 17:05

OK, get your razor out, legs, pits & get trimmed with scissors & some Immac ? you can do this when DC gone to bed ! (no aesthetician on wheels in your area ?)

ferrier · 11/12/2017 17:22

I'm not sure that Rumpled is the kind of guy who (a) is going to be rushing past 1st base and (b) is going to be that bothered considering how much he respects Mortal.

Apileofballyhoo · 11/12/2017 17:35

I can't imagine how it isn't a romantic interest... It's all very Jane Austen I think. Which means Mr Rumpled will have to declare love and propose marriage all in one go.

MortalEnemy · 11/12/2017 18:28

Are people who rip your body hair out with wax or sugar seriously called aestheticians now??? That sounds like a little-known philosophical movement to me.

ferrier, I completely misread your comment, and was about to get defensive about R’s feminist credentials on body hair. Well, presumed feminist credentials. It’s one of the things we have still to discuss. Grin

Just think, under their delicate Regency dresses, Austen’s heroines would have been as furry as bears...

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MeMeMeMe123 · 11/12/2017 19:56

mortal you are fabukous erudite funny and kind-hearted

I am a real romantic at heart and there is something just delicious about this 'courtship' - if that's what you'd call it....

Chin Up , Shoulders back and tits up...... (not whilst shaving obviously - that could be problematic)

MeMeMeMe123 · 11/12/2017 19:56

ffs fabulous

KeziaOAP · 11/12/2017 19:57

Oh dear Mortal I will forever think of Elizabeth Bennett as a furry bear Shock

Mix56 · 11/12/2017 20:11

Fwaahaaaa, chuckled loudly. So glad my spelling faux pas didn't go without note !

bluescreen · 11/12/2017 21:14

Just think, under their delicate Regency dresses, Austen’s heroines would have been as furry as bears...
LOL
Bear