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situation with my colleague

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MortalEnemy · 21/09/2017 19:05

Let me start by saying that I am over 40, but if I sound like the most clueless of teenagers, that is because I am in relationships terms -- I was with the same man from my teens until a couple of years ago, and as I've been single since, and am the busy working parent of a demanding small child with no evening childcare, as a result I have pretty much zero experience of relationships, flirting etc.

Which is why I'm finding this confusing and talking to a bunch of strangers on the internet about it.

I've been in my current job at a large organisation (being deliberately vague) for just over a year. Over the last two or three months, I've found myself feeling close to a colleague from another department with whom I have intermittent meetings/dealings, after only vaguely registering him as a nice guy before that. Recently we seem to end up drifting together at any events we're both at, and falling into conversations which end up often being very long and wide-ranging, and often end up hovering by the lifts or in the corridor talking more, if it's something at the end of the day.

I thought I was overthinking this while I was away over the summer, but now it seems to be becoming more frequent, if anything, and the conversations more personal. It's a busy period at work, with a weekend event and a conference we both had to attend, and in the last five workdays alone, we must have spent four or five hours talking at a reception/on the way out of the building/on the way to the car park. I'm finding myself thinking about him more and more, and realised I find him attractive. He's 48, clever, funny, observant, and kind, and apparently amiably divorced, but clearly a besotted and very involved father to teenagers.

The issue, I suppose is that I'm completely confused about what this means. The last time I was in this situation I was 18, pretty and confident, and I was falling in love with the man I married. Now I am in my 40s, no looker, and my confidence has taken a big knocking for various reasons in the last five years, when I found parenthood tough, my career foundered, my marriage ended and I haven't been particularly happy -- my marriage was celibate for the last few years, and I have not thought of myself as someone who could be considered attractive for a very long time. I also have none of the basic comprehension of men that an average, single 40something woman has. At some level I am terrified, but mostly what I feel is as though I'm a beginner at a language everyone else seems to speak fluently.

How on earth do you know if someone reciprocates your feelings? How can you tell the difference between someone who likes you as a workmate and someone who is developing stronger feelings for you? I have butterflies. I'm off my food. When someone says his name I get a rush of pleasure. I am a teenager in the body of a 42 year old professional.

I realise this probably sounds like a complete non-problem to anyone with experience of adult dating, but despite being a functioning adult I am absolutely unable to conceive that anyone would find me attractive, and while we gravitate to one another when we encounter one another at work and can't stop talking, it's always 'accidental'. He's very self-deprecating, and I sense he's been out of the game for a while, too. I'm especially wary because presuming something about a workmate could have horrible consequences. Also, we're both originally from the same country, though have lived in the UK most of our adult lives, so I wonder whether this might just be nostalgia for 'home' from him. But then I think of all the times when an hour suddenly melted away just standing in the corridor, and the fact that he remembers absolutely everything I tell him.

Thank you for struggling through this any advice? How does this sound to you? What would you do? A bit of me hopes you will all say 'predictable office crush all in your head no basis in reality, no need to do anything'.

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Catmint · 07/12/2017 21:50

Hello Mortal,

I hope you have a lovely evening with R at the Christmas do, talking with each other in a different environment with the lubrication of a couple of drinks. I hope you laugh and laugh together.

But he doesn't strike me as the sort of person who would take advantage of such a situation to make a grand gesture, or even a move, necessarily.

Doesn't mean he doesn't like you. I think he does, but love is complicated and for some people it's far too precious and private to throw about at a work Xmas bash.

Sancerresanwine · 07/12/2017 22:15

You write beautifully mortal. Is suggesting a dinner or drink out of the question?! Or Saturday lunch when dd could be doing an activity? He is clearly very keen! And shy!

Waddlelikeapenguin · 07/12/2017 23:16

Is that a tried and tested technique? I'm taking notes here. grin
It's the only thing that ever worked for me! I could never flirt, never knew if someone fancied me Confused although this is so far off into the mists of time that i can hardly see it anymore

EBearhug · 08/12/2017 01:51

however happy it would make Mn.

Good point this. Never mind what you and he might want. Does he not realise he has a duty to a million online strangers now? Grin

(Obviously not, on account of not having emigrated to Outer Mongolia to an area with absolutely no network connectivity.)

Nannyplumssillyoldelf · 08/12/2017 08:34

I just read this whole thread. I hope things work out for you.

MortalEnemy · 09/12/2017 12:31

But he doesn't strike me as the sort of person who would take advantage of such a situation to make a grand gesture, or even a move, necessarily

I think you're right, Catmint. Mn will have to restrain its overheated thoughts of mistletoe, new underwear and footsie. Grin

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badbadhusky · 09/12/2017 13:36

I am torn between wanting Mortal wanting to editorialise to give us a happy ending before Christmas and the ultimately more satisfying truth of two people who like each other feeling their way towards a meaningful collection, ecen if it takes a year. Keep inching your way along, Mortal. Smile

badbadhusky · 09/12/2017 13:39

Oh FFS - coNNection, not collection. Though the mental image of Mortal and Rumpled cooing over their Whimsy collection is quite amusing.

Whimsy link for our younger posters

MortalEnemy · 09/12/2017 13:58

I was thinking more of a nice album of stamps, badbad. Or carefully-curated ironic souvenir fridge magnets. Grin

I haven’t actually seen him since Wednesday — one or both of us offsite, him away one overnight, me having to leave work early one day with childcare issues — but we’ve had such absorbing email flurries, it is almost worth it.

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badbadhusky · 09/12/2017 14:05

I bet if there was an algorithm for a suspiciously high level of email interaction on your work system, a klaxon would be sounding somewhere right now and lurrrve prevention officer would be poring over your emails.

Chiconbelge · 09/12/2017 14:05

Hey - I don’t care if it takes a year - just keep us posted!

MyOtherProfile · 09/12/2017 19:24

But what were the absorbing email flurries about? We need to know!

KeziaOAP · 09/12/2017 20:03

Loving this we’ve had such absorbing email flurries, - gave me a fluttery feeling Wink

Slartybartfast · 10/12/2017 09:34

so glad you are very very much in liking with him Smile.
that is a good feeling

Catmint · 10/12/2017 22:15

Your relationship so far reminds me of one of those flat puzzles, where you have to slide tiles into awkward configurations in order to finally resolve the picture. For a puzzle with relatively few pieces, it is very complex, frustrating, hopeful, and not to be rushed.

You're at the stage where you can tell what the picture is, but you've got some of the pieces in the wrong corners.

I'm hoping to be back soon to labour this metaphor a bit more.

MortalEnemy · 10/12/2017 23:04

I was enjoying being a difficult flat puzzle. My awkward configurations are legendary. Grin

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badbadhusky · 10/12/2017 23:06

So Mortal, cheer us this cold winter’s eve with an update on your outfit for the Christmas do. Did you settle on any of the dresses you ordered?

MortalEnemy · 10/12/2017 23:38

I’ve almost forgotten about the Christmas party (snow, baby power cut, village cut off, DD’s school shut tomorrow, mad at work), but yes, a kimono-sleeved jersey dress and the right hint of cleavage. Grin

And R has asked if we can sit together and assured me of his protection from the Men in Shorts.

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CraftyYankee · 10/12/2017 23:50

WHAT? This is big news and you drop it casually?!? Mortal, last I remember, he hadn't even told you he was going to the Xmas do!

(Slightly overinvested here.)

How did that conversation go?

mousemoose · 11/12/2017 00:27

Yes, don't just drop that in! (massively over invested)

YellowLily · 11/12/2017 00:30

Just read whole thing.... such an uplifting and positive thread. Can’t wait to hear about your xmas party Grin

MortalEnemy · 11/12/2017 00:36

I definitely said it up the thread! I pretended great surprise, naturally. Grin

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mousemoose · 11/12/2017 00:46

oh sorry, i must have missed it! as you were.

SchnitzelVonKrumm · 11/12/2017 00:55

I missed that too!

Tartyflette · 11/12/2017 01:01

Is the party this week? (I think you did say but I've forgotten - sorry!)
I just wanted to wish you a lovely time anyway 😉