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He's from the country, I'm from the city - feel like am slowly dying

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splendidisolation · 22/08/2017 07:55

Hello! I'd really appreciate any advice you might have. Sorry if this is long, I need to write it down for myself, too.

THE SITUATION: I'm 29, been with DP (34) for 2 years, first year was long distance, and for the last year I've lived in what I'll call The Town.
THE PROBLEM: He's from the countryside, born and bred in the same place. I moved around loads and always lived in cities.

Last year, I moved from a city at the opposite end of the country to be closer to him. Whilst he still lives in the large village he was born in, I moved to the middle-sized town that is basically the 'epicentre' for all the surrounding villages.

It was always going to be me moving, simply because my work means I can work from anywhere. Also, I knew he had very strong ties to his region and village, whereas I am much, much more footloose.

THE PROBLEM: The problem is after a year, I feel really isolated and unfulfilled. I have done everything in my power to create a network for myself, and having moved so much, it's something I'm good at. I know how to put myself out there and am a really relaxed and friendly person. But I just haven't met ''my'' kind of people here.
There's no real cultural scene to speak of. There's no exhibitions, or theatre, no classes or courses you can go on (everything here seems really scattered. Instead of stuff happening in The Town, you have to drive around to various other smaller towns for stuff to do). I've made a few friends here but it's a different kind of friendship than the ones I'm used to. A lot of my social life revolves around going to dinner at his family or friends' house. All his friends are married with kids and the conversation normally centres on local gossip and the kids.

The Town has been suffering from post-industrial decline for awhile now. It's kind of a dormitory town. It's just so dead. I can appreciate it's pretty, but what little is going on here is really low-key and for all its charms it's just a very uneventful place to live. I know I should have thought about this before I moved, but I was just so happy to finally be moving near him, I didn't give it any thought.

The saving grace is that just a 40-minute drive away is a major city that I really, really like.

My dilemma is whether I should move to the city or not, but for some reason I'm really struggling with this decision.

PROS OF MOVING TO CITY:
I'll be able to fulfill other parts of me. I'm also an artist, it would be great to hang out with other artists, take some specific classes, go to exhibitions. Since I'm self-employed, it would be great to find a work space too. Just so many more opportunities to meet like-minded people and thrive.
It's near enough to DP still that we can definitely still spend at least 3 nights a week together. I may find I actually appreciate the country when I'm not living in.
CONS OF MOVING TO CITY:
It will definitely be more expensive. That's not to say it's not doable for me, it is, but it's something to bear in mind.
I'm very worried that DP will see this move to the city as me breaking away from him. On the other hand, I can't help but feel a little seed of resentment: I told him (back in the good old hazy days of idealising the place when I first moved!) that it would be great to move into a house with him, and he balked. I guess he likes having his independence, although he stays at mine pretty much every night. But I kind of think you can't have your cake and eat it, too. You want independence? That's cool, I'm off to the city! :-D
But seriously though, I'm worried he would see it as the relationship becoming weaker. I think if I said I wanted to move into the city, he would try and push us moving in together in a bid to keep me there. Which on reflection, is probably not the right solution.

Our relationship is good, we love each other. But how is this going to work long term if he's a through and through country guy and I'm the opposite?

Should I:
A - Move to the city, and me and DP can see each other 3 or 4 nights a week? Distance between city and his village: 40 minutes by car
B - Stay in the town but try and get to the city one or two days a week? The only thing with that is - it's really not quite the same thing as living there and making a proper network for yourself. Distance between town and his village: 10/15 minutes by car

I'm starting to feel frustrated and like I'm wasting away a little. It also annoys me that he got to keep his lifestyle and network and I'm just supposed to find a way to make this work for me, whilst spending a lot of time with HIS network, etc.

Please, any thoughts or opinions would be very welcome.

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Mrswinkler · 01/10/2017 22:26

Read this: offescalator.com

You don’t have to live with someone or near to someone to make a relationship work. Fuck what others think. Move to the city, enjoy your time with him. Enjoy your time without him. Be creative about the relationship. It can work.

DJBaggySmalls · 01/10/2017 22:36

Move to the city and see if the relationship survives.

You need feeding and you aren't getting it living in the town or the country. If you try to change to suit him, your creativity will die off. You will feel frustrated and resentful.
Having him and a family wont be a replacement for your lost creativity. If anyone said to you now 'Town life is duller than city life, your husband should be enough for you, why dont you have a baby to keep yourself busy?' you'd see through it.

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Butterymuffin · 01/10/2017 23:20

Having read what you put about how you'd both have to agree that the Town was the final compromise for you both, it felt wrong, and that he is still gaining a lot more than you are. Remember, he virtually lives there already since he stays at yours so often - yet it's been made to sound like a big concession.

I would:
-Move to the city asap. Remind him of all the things he said when you first suggested this: it's only another 20 mins away, he wants you to be happy etc.

  • Review the whole thing 1 year on from moving. That's city living, the relationship, everything. You'll be 30 then and it's a good point to take stock and make some decisions.
Apileofballyhoo · 02/10/2017 01:01

I've read the full thread. I think you should give the city a go for a while and continue on the way you are. I can't see how you will be any happier living together in the town than you are now as he stays in your place x many nights a week already. I see you will have more money for visiting home, but you don't seem short of money now. What you do seem short of is friends local to you. They're in the city, you just haven't met them yet. You'll have a much much better chance of creating that network if you actually live there. You can move back to the country when your network is there. Your boyfriend has that network already.

It may not seem like as big a thing now, but if you do have kids with him in a few years, it's all the more important to have people local to you you can call on. Your own people, not his. Build your city network.

MangosteenSoda · 02/10/2017 01:37

I think you should move in together now rather than kicking the can down the road for another few years.

However, I think you should suggest the suburbs as the place to go because you already know you don't like the town. As he said, it's only 20 minutes extra and it would be a fresh start for both of you, but still a compromise on both sides, not just one.

MistressDeeCee · 02/10/2017 02:41

A - Move to the city, and me and DP can see each other 3 or 4 nights a week? Distance between city and his village: 40 minutes by car

Go ahead with this and explain calmly to your DP why you are doing so. Hopefully he will understand

If he doesn't, well then. He's fine. He is where he always wants to be. You've moved miles to be with him and you don't even live together anyway.

Anyway surely he can travel 40 minutes to you he's not housebound is he? He's not had to make much effort so far so I can't see why this should be any issue really. You'd be less than an hour away

But anyway, option A definitely

rizlett · 02/10/2017 05:29

I wonder if OP was a man we'd be advising the same?

He has now said he will move [after explaining his valid concerns about wondering how committed to the relationship op is.] which is good because he's worked through this and decided what he wants most - which is op - however I'm wondering if this still is not quite enough for op?

splendidisolation · 02/10/2017 06:58

@rizlett

So in a way you're saying what @PoisonousSmurf was saying - you think I'm being too demanding? Its certainly worth thinking about how it would be viewed if it was reversed. I'm just trying to figure out a way of us being together whilst each being personally fulfilled, which is difficult when you're with someone so geographically inflexible.
I mean the whole problem would evaporate if he'd suggest moving to the city with me - which I get isn't his scene, but don't forget that I have already changed region, moving in fact to the oppposite end of the country...

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splendidisolation · 02/10/2017 07:02

@Butterymuffin

You're right that the Town is still a massive compromise in his favour, not just in terms of its proximity to his people, but also because his people are in and out of the Town anyway. The only way it would work is if I really threw myself into building a network in the City from the Town. I'm not sure how possible that is, since living there makes a big difference.

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splendidisolation · 02/10/2017 07:07

@MangosteenSoda Thankdls for replying, I agree re kicking the can down the road. As I said one of the big reasons to do it is so we can get a much more realistic vision of whether its going to work or not. I'd be worried moving to the city means another 3 years of travelling back and forth, potentially unrealistic plans and "planning" that never comes to fruition ("maybe we could try....").

Not sure if I would get him to the suburbs though. Im not sure I would want to force him to the suburbs, but then equally I need to think about what that means IMO: do i think its understandable he wouldnt want to move to the city subrlurbs as someone who was always very clear about loving the country? Or do I think its pretty uninspired and selfish of him, considering I already moved to his region?

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splendidisolation · 02/10/2017 07:16

@Apileofballyhoo

Thanks for reading the whole thing and replying, you're right thats what it all comes down to: the network. And you've summarised that side of the argument perfectly. The only other extra add on I can see that might help is I could also stay overnight in the City twice a week when I have evening workshops/early morning workshops. That would be an opportunity to do stuff their in the evenings, make a little network for myself. Not quite the same as living their full-time but it is actually something that could work quite well.

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splendidisolation · 02/10/2017 07:41

Thank you sp much for replying and reminding me of that film @KarmaNoMore
I think I may either watch it again or read the book - have you read it? Is it one of those that's richer than the book? I have seen the film and thought it was great.

I don't know if you saw my update (page 6) but he suggested moving in together on the basis that I would go back to my home city for a few days every month. I could also afford to stay overnight in the nearby city twice a week....lots to think about

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splendidisolation · 02/10/2017 07:42

@KarmaNoMore

Oh and now that you're divorced - are you back enjoying city life? 😁

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rizlett · 02/10/2017 07:49

Is the ideal outcome for you that you both move to The City which is 40mins away from where he currently lives in the countryside?

If he offered that - would you snap it up?

How much of this is true? what I miss is not seeing my group of friends as much

If you moved to The City you'd then be able to cultivate all the friendships you feel have not been available to you in The Town?

If you have children in The City would you then want to remain there or move back to The Town or The Village?

Does your view of where you see yourself in 5 years time in any way match up to his?

Jasminedes · 02/10/2017 08:02

My only thought, OP, was WHICH city would YOU like to live in, it doesn't have to be the local one.

But if you want to accept the compromise, which I agree is progress, perhaps, then think about this - is he a helpful opposite to you, grounding you and providing stability and consistency, while you provide the broader horizons and stimulation. Or, will you feel stifled growing old with this man.

splendidisolation · 02/10/2017 08:14

@Jasminedes

Yes Jasmine, he is, and this is the thing. My Mum commented that she's been staggered by how serene and healthy I'm looking. Probably because my life has always been about upheaval and one catastrophe to the next. I used to be quite a self destructive party animal. I still go out now but its massively toned down and I dont find myself getting up to no good. For some reason he inspires me to want to look after myself more. As an example, I had an undiagnosed problem with my spine which got diagnosed and the doctors said the only way to fix it was to seriously get muscled up.
Because he's so into his fitness he helped me design a work out plan, I'm now in great shape and really taking care of myself physically. He helps me feel much more grounded and steady than I ever have before.

I think in return I give him a kind of openness to other "worlds", that sounds bullshitty but hopefully you know what I mean.

I guess what I'm wondering now is if it might not be better to draw strength from this very grounded person and relationship rather than trying to break away from it. Its complicated.

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Patchouli666 · 02/10/2017 08:17

So he stays at yours in The Town most nights anyway and you are hankering for the buzz of the city. What will make it different for YOU now he's decided to make it official? All he's done in my mind is stop you going to the city by giving you what you've already got and making it feel like commitment and change from him. It isn't is it? He's just stopped you going.

splendidisolation · 02/10/2017 08:18

@Jasminedes

I guess it feels like there's a man I love dearly who gives me all the support and grounded structure I need to look after myself properly, who may be geographically inflexible but who is open-minded enough to have no problem with me skipping away left right and centre to go and satisfy my urges to be in place x, y or z. It seems crazy not to cherish that.

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rizlett · 02/10/2017 08:19

Is it complicated though op - or is that just a feeling you might possibly be addicted to?

It might be actually really simple.

Perhaps you wonder if simple = boring?

Is commitment for you or might it impact on your free spirit?

splendidisolation · 02/10/2017 08:20

@rizlett

You ask great questions.

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splendidisolation · 02/10/2017 08:26

@KarmaNoMore
Glad to hear it. How did you meet your ex? Was it his village?

I've just ordered the book....gulp...

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