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He's from the country, I'm from the city - feel like am slowly dying

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splendidisolation · 22/08/2017 07:55

Hello! I'd really appreciate any advice you might have. Sorry if this is long, I need to write it down for myself, too.

THE SITUATION: I'm 29, been with DP (34) for 2 years, first year was long distance, and for the last year I've lived in what I'll call The Town.
THE PROBLEM: He's from the countryside, born and bred in the same place. I moved around loads and always lived in cities.

Last year, I moved from a city at the opposite end of the country to be closer to him. Whilst he still lives in the large village he was born in, I moved to the middle-sized town that is basically the 'epicentre' for all the surrounding villages.

It was always going to be me moving, simply because my work means I can work from anywhere. Also, I knew he had very strong ties to his region and village, whereas I am much, much more footloose.

THE PROBLEM: The problem is after a year, I feel really isolated and unfulfilled. I have done everything in my power to create a network for myself, and having moved so much, it's something I'm good at. I know how to put myself out there and am a really relaxed and friendly person. But I just haven't met ''my'' kind of people here.
There's no real cultural scene to speak of. There's no exhibitions, or theatre, no classes or courses you can go on (everything here seems really scattered. Instead of stuff happening in The Town, you have to drive around to various other smaller towns for stuff to do). I've made a few friends here but it's a different kind of friendship than the ones I'm used to. A lot of my social life revolves around going to dinner at his family or friends' house. All his friends are married with kids and the conversation normally centres on local gossip and the kids.

The Town has been suffering from post-industrial decline for awhile now. It's kind of a dormitory town. It's just so dead. I can appreciate it's pretty, but what little is going on here is really low-key and for all its charms it's just a very uneventful place to live. I know I should have thought about this before I moved, but I was just so happy to finally be moving near him, I didn't give it any thought.

The saving grace is that just a 40-minute drive away is a major city that I really, really like.

My dilemma is whether I should move to the city or not, but for some reason I'm really struggling with this decision.

PROS OF MOVING TO CITY:
I'll be able to fulfill other parts of me. I'm also an artist, it would be great to hang out with other artists, take some specific classes, go to exhibitions. Since I'm self-employed, it would be great to find a work space too. Just so many more opportunities to meet like-minded people and thrive.
It's near enough to DP still that we can definitely still spend at least 3 nights a week together. I may find I actually appreciate the country when I'm not living in.
CONS OF MOVING TO CITY:
It will definitely be more expensive. That's not to say it's not doable for me, it is, but it's something to bear in mind.
I'm very worried that DP will see this move to the city as me breaking away from him. On the other hand, I can't help but feel a little seed of resentment: I told him (back in the good old hazy days of idealising the place when I first moved!) that it would be great to move into a house with him, and he balked. I guess he likes having his independence, although he stays at mine pretty much every night. But I kind of think you can't have your cake and eat it, too. You want independence? That's cool, I'm off to the city! :-D
But seriously though, I'm worried he would see it as the relationship becoming weaker. I think if I said I wanted to move into the city, he would try and push us moving in together in a bid to keep me there. Which on reflection, is probably not the right solution.

Our relationship is good, we love each other. But how is this going to work long term if he's a through and through country guy and I'm the opposite?

Should I:
A - Move to the city, and me and DP can see each other 3 or 4 nights a week? Distance between city and his village: 40 minutes by car
B - Stay in the town but try and get to the city one or two days a week? The only thing with that is - it's really not quite the same thing as living there and making a proper network for yourself. Distance between town and his village: 10/15 minutes by car

I'm starting to feel frustrated and like I'm wasting away a little. It also annoys me that he got to keep his lifestyle and network and I'm just supposed to find a way to make this work for me, whilst spending a lot of time with HIS network, etc.

Please, any thoughts or opinions would be very welcome.

OP posts:
Queenofthedrivensnow · 01/10/2017 20:14

Move to the city 100% at least if the relationship dies - which it will - then you will have a life you want

Trills · 01/10/2017 20:21

I would not expect myself to get on well with someone who as an adult still lived in the same small village they grew up in. We would want different things out of life. Maybe you're just not compatible?

splendidisolation · 01/10/2017 20:26

@Trills

Its possible Trills. I dont know if you read my update in the previous page, but I suppose one other reason im considering his idea of moving in together is because then we'll have a clearer picture of whether this is going to work (which I really hope it does).
Part of me thinks that if I go down the city route I might end up postponing a decision that would be made more quickly if we did in fact live together (the decision being okay, this feels right, or no, we're too different for this to work).

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Trills · 01/10/2017 20:30

Where is it that you might be moving in? I'd be worried that if you move in together in a "compromise" place, you'll find yourself stuck there forever and neither of you will really be happy about it.

HackneyP · 01/10/2017 20:52

Move to the city. You've already compromised enough and you don't want the small town life. You can still be in a relationship but it should be on equal terms, not you making yourself unhappy to make him happy. You are equally as valid in this as he is. He won't even move in with you FGS do what you like!

splendidisolation · 01/10/2017 20:54

@HackneyP Thank you for reading and replying! I just posted a bit of an update on page 6...he's suggesting we move in together now

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HackneyP · 01/10/2017 20:55

Sorry OP hadn't seen the update Blush

splendidisolation · 01/10/2017 21:01

@HackneyP

:D I still have a decision to make though! Do you have any thoughts?

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LilaoftheGreenwood · 01/10/2017 21:01

Ok I have RTFT.

So, devil's advocate. You uprooted your life for this guy and he didn't want to so much as do a bit of light weeding of his. He stayed in the same place, he didn't want to live with you.

Now, in the absence of that full, rich experience of moving forward together and compromising, you've come up with a new plan which will suit you, because you're resourceful and positive. And he (very genuinely, I'm sure, at the time) backed you on the plan.

And now he has announced a new plan. Which involves you staying where you are, not moving to the city where you know, and have told him, you'll be happy.

Ok, you get something out of this, you get to live with him. Some dreadful cynical people might suggest that you could have expected that much as a bare minimum for uprooting your life in the first place.

He's suddenly done an awful lot of thinking when he felt he was potentially about to lose something of your giving nature, hasn't he?

None of this has to mean he's some terrible conscious manipulator. But please be careful about signing your life away to someone who isn't as fulsomely giving as you are. You being lovely and compromising for a year didn't make him budge an inch, it was only the end of the compromise hoving into view that made him act. If you give in this time don't imagine it will be any easier in the future.

notheretoargue · 01/10/2017 21:07

It sounds to me like he's listened to your concerns and proposed a solution. In your position, I would take that as a real positive. I don't think your previous solution is still relevant, as the situation has changed - he is willing to compromise on location, he is talking about sharing his finances so that you can be happier, and he wants to move the relationship on a bit further. Do you want any of those things? If so, give it a shot. As you say, this way you will both know sooner rather than later if you have a long term future together

I would move into a rented place with him.

notheretoargue · 01/10/2017 21:13

Ooh, wow, just read lila's post. Hmmmm .... it's a convincing argument!

I am also an artist, and can understand the need to be near a city and to participate in that buzz. And wherever you end up, you will need to be travelling to the city regularly.

But I guess my gut feeling is quite positive. I think I'm imagining if my dh was saying what your dp is, and how I think it would mean he felt about our relationship. What's your gut, op?

splendidisolation · 01/10/2017 21:14

@LilaoftheGreenwood

I really appreciate you taking the time to write such a thoughtful reply.

I totally see what you mean and will reflect on it. I guess what's swaying me towards going for the moving in is that then if it doesnt work out, case closed, it doesnt work out, we'll have to just accept we're too different and move on.
What worries me about the city plan is I could end up wasting an awful lot of time in a kind of back and forth situation, only for us to utlimately realise it doesnt work and I'll have spent 3 or 4 years wasted on 'seeing how things go'.
You know what I mean?

On the plus side he's willing to move to The Town...perhaps theres hope yet that he could upgrade from that to The City 😉 But I mean it feels like more of an even compromise this way. But will it be enough for me?

I dont know I need to think clear headed here. All your opinions are really important. Im glad I have a few months to go round it in my head.

Over tje next few months im going to make a point of going back to my home city once a month and continue attending the classes and events Ive started going to in the nearby city. This should give me a very honest vision of what life will be like, with the added bonus of living with him too.

If i feel happy by February I'll go for it, if I still feel something is missing I'll head for the city.

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LilaoftheGreenwood · 01/10/2017 21:16

I wouldn't say I'm totally convincing myself notheretoargue Grin I think in abstract, that's how things are, and that may be one kind of truth, and all the complicated "colouring in" - like actually this guy sounds nice - may be another kind of truth.

It's the old problem, someone can be truly nice and genuine and want the best for you and still behave in a selfish and/or manipulative way.

notheretoargue · 01/10/2017 21:19

Yes, I agree with you 100% Lila!

Trills · 01/10/2017 21:20

How long are you willing to live with him in The Town, you hoping that he agrees to upgrade to The City, him hoping that you will agree to upgrade (in his mind) to The Village?

20 years?

It might be that you are just not compatible in other ways, but what if you get on well enough living together but just fundamentally don't want to live in the same place?

splendidisolation · 01/10/2017 21:24

Thanks for replying @notheretoargue

I also agree with Lila, but I agree with you too that it sounds like he's suggesting him compromising on moving out of the countryside and giving up his bachelor pad (snort). It sounds like you say, that he wants to push things on which is good, and he isnt the type to do those things lightly.

Ive been doing some soul searching lately and trying to figure out what I want and I think I would like to have kids with him at some point. With that in mind, it seems to me that basically either we need to make a proper go of it and reassure ourselves that we can compromise and live together and be happy, or we need to cut our losses and part ways.

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PoisonousSmurf · 01/10/2017 21:25

You sound like hard work. City life is vile! You have the perfect solution, but of course it's not good enough.

WhatsGoingOnEh · 01/10/2017 21:26

I knew he'd suggest moving in together as soon as you'd decided to move to the city.

I say - move to the city. If he's not ready for marriage/babies/legal commitment yet, then you would be VERY VERY SILLY to compromise on ANYTHING until he is.

Live in the city, have your awesome life, let him drive 20 more minutes, etc etc. Let HIM make the effort now, you have made PLENTY.

Just remember: when you are the one fitting in with his plans, he umms and aahs about commitment and does nothing about it. But as soon as you put yourself first, and make a move that makes you happy, he is SUDDENLY all ready for the next step. A bit predictable, no?

Do what you want to do.

splendidisolation · 01/10/2017 21:28

@LilaoftheGreenwood

I totally agree with your last sentence to Lila. You definitely can be both nice and manipulative, and although i didn't see it that way it would be stupid to pretend its not a possibility.

We would have to be clear from the beginning in both our minds that the Town is the ultimate compromise, there will be no further compromise on either side. Just need to see now whether that could end up.working for me 😊

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NewLove · 01/10/2017 21:28

He may move to the town but there will no way on this planet he will move to the city, and if he does he will be as miserable there are you are now. It sounds like you are too different...

splendidisolation · 01/10/2017 21:29

@WhatsGoingOnEh

Can't argue with that!!!!!

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splendidisolation · 01/10/2017 21:29

@PoisonousSmurf

I don't think I'm hard work in the slightest tbf!

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Theseaweed · 01/10/2017 21:30

Haven't read the entire thread but from your first post, absolutely MOVE.
Don't worry about your relationship yet, get yourself in a happy place and the relationship will either thrive or die. But please make yourself happy first. Good luck.

Onecutefox · 01/10/2017 21:36

It's his personality. I am from a small village and my Dh came from a big town. He doesn't understand why I am not happy to live in a rural area anymore as he doesn't mind. My mum and dad, on the other hand, would gladly sit in one place all their life.

Trills · 01/10/2017 21:42

Ignore PoisonousSmurf - some people consider anyone who doesn't want exactly the same things they want to be "hard work".

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