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He's from the country, I'm from the city - feel like am slowly dying

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splendidisolation · 22/08/2017 07:55

Hello! I'd really appreciate any advice you might have. Sorry if this is long, I need to write it down for myself, too.

THE SITUATION: I'm 29, been with DP (34) for 2 years, first year was long distance, and for the last year I've lived in what I'll call The Town.
THE PROBLEM: He's from the countryside, born and bred in the same place. I moved around loads and always lived in cities.

Last year, I moved from a city at the opposite end of the country to be closer to him. Whilst he still lives in the large village he was born in, I moved to the middle-sized town that is basically the 'epicentre' for all the surrounding villages.

It was always going to be me moving, simply because my work means I can work from anywhere. Also, I knew he had very strong ties to his region and village, whereas I am much, much more footloose.

THE PROBLEM: The problem is after a year, I feel really isolated and unfulfilled. I have done everything in my power to create a network for myself, and having moved so much, it's something I'm good at. I know how to put myself out there and am a really relaxed and friendly person. But I just haven't met ''my'' kind of people here.
There's no real cultural scene to speak of. There's no exhibitions, or theatre, no classes or courses you can go on (everything here seems really scattered. Instead of stuff happening in The Town, you have to drive around to various other smaller towns for stuff to do). I've made a few friends here but it's a different kind of friendship than the ones I'm used to. A lot of my social life revolves around going to dinner at his family or friends' house. All his friends are married with kids and the conversation normally centres on local gossip and the kids.

The Town has been suffering from post-industrial decline for awhile now. It's kind of a dormitory town. It's just so dead. I can appreciate it's pretty, but what little is going on here is really low-key and for all its charms it's just a very uneventful place to live. I know I should have thought about this before I moved, but I was just so happy to finally be moving near him, I didn't give it any thought.

The saving grace is that just a 40-minute drive away is a major city that I really, really like.

My dilemma is whether I should move to the city or not, but for some reason I'm really struggling with this decision.

PROS OF MOVING TO CITY:
I'll be able to fulfill other parts of me. I'm also an artist, it would be great to hang out with other artists, take some specific classes, go to exhibitions. Since I'm self-employed, it would be great to find a work space too. Just so many more opportunities to meet like-minded people and thrive.
It's near enough to DP still that we can definitely still spend at least 3 nights a week together. I may find I actually appreciate the country when I'm not living in.
CONS OF MOVING TO CITY:
It will definitely be more expensive. That's not to say it's not doable for me, it is, but it's something to bear in mind.
I'm very worried that DP will see this move to the city as me breaking away from him. On the other hand, I can't help but feel a little seed of resentment: I told him (back in the good old hazy days of idealising the place when I first moved!) that it would be great to move into a house with him, and he balked. I guess he likes having his independence, although he stays at mine pretty much every night. But I kind of think you can't have your cake and eat it, too. You want independence? That's cool, I'm off to the city! :-D
But seriously though, I'm worried he would see it as the relationship becoming weaker. I think if I said I wanted to move into the city, he would try and push us moving in together in a bid to keep me there. Which on reflection, is probably not the right solution.

Our relationship is good, we love each other. But how is this going to work long term if he's a through and through country guy and I'm the opposite?

Should I:
A - Move to the city, and me and DP can see each other 3 or 4 nights a week? Distance between city and his village: 40 minutes by car
B - Stay in the town but try and get to the city one or two days a week? The only thing with that is - it's really not quite the same thing as living there and making a proper network for yourself. Distance between town and his village: 10/15 minutes by car

I'm starting to feel frustrated and like I'm wasting away a little. It also annoys me that he got to keep his lifestyle and network and I'm just supposed to find a way to make this work for me, whilst spending a lot of time with HIS network, etc.

Please, any thoughts or opinions would be very welcome.

OP posts:
Kleinzeit · 22/08/2017 16:54

His business IS taking up a lot of his time, and he's also very relaxed about me setting off on what he calls ''adventures''.

So that's how he sees the city - not as a place where people have commitments but a place where people go to have adventures? Presumably when he doesn't need you to spend time with him because he's busy anyway. Do you see him hanging around at home waiting for you while you're off at some performance he doesn't want to attend? Or making time for a cultural event because you need him there?

Maybe he's not your type after all. Sorry!

GreenTulips · 22/08/2017 16:58

He's got you right where he wants you, afraid to prioritise your needs out of fear that he will use it as a stick to beat you with

Well put

He doesn't want to live with you - he doesn't want your children - you are a re great crash pad but not good enough to share his bed with

Why didn't you live together when you lived up? Who's idea was it to pay separate lodging? Why should he keep his flat while you cook his tea nd keep the bed warm?

He has his cake and he's eating it

Wake up!

splendidisolation · 22/08/2017 17:10

Eh? Isn't that a bit harsh (GreenTulips and Kleinzeit)? I took it as he was open-minded enough to see that I needed to get away and encouraged me to do so...

OP posts:
GreenTulips · 22/08/2017 17:31

Not harsh

Been there brought the TShirt wasted years

He's never going to change

Ask him Do you see us living together
Do you want children
Are you looking for marriage
What compromises will you be making to make this work?

MrsNoMates · 22/08/2017 18:14

What happens if, and it's always worth asking the "if," you move to the city and you meet a man who has similar interests as you and enjoys city life/wants a family and live in the city? Likewise what happens if he meets a woman who is happy/wants to settle down in a quiet village life?

It would be like you're both leading half a life and only filling half of your potential/s. You both want to get on and live your lives in different ways but will still always have each other niggling in the back of your minds when you could be out there enjoying your experiences to the maximum.

You could end up meeting someone who wants City life but miss that chance because lingering in the background is someone who doesn't want the same sort of life as you.

Joysmum · 22/08/2017 18:34

You aren't flakey or indecisive and it says a lot about his unbending attitude towards you and his lifestyle if that's what he thinks.

It's obvious you're the one making all the sacrifices and compromises and are coming to the conclusion that you fit in with his wants because he won't be flexible to meet you part way.

This is a critical time for your relationship. You may well enjoy his company, but not his lifestyle so you're wasting opportunities for your own life to appease him. I think you'll end up resenting that in time but it's your choice.

Laptopprancet · 22/08/2017 19:04

Just playing devils advocate here (check me out with my louche city ways) ahem. Would it make sense to demote your relationship to "casualish" and be open to meeting others? Because the alternative risk is throwing away a few years when you could hypothetically be meeting someone else who has the same personal qualities of your man AND fits in with the lifestyle that you yourself would find emotionally and culturally fulfilling.

Every evening you spend bored fuckless listening to Mrs Gannet from down the road drone on about how her nephews neighbour said X to her is an evening you're taking away from your own emotional and creative progression. And the guy isn't even that fussed about living with you (so at least you'd have some domestic/ financial support ongoing)

MoreProseccoNow · 22/08/2017 19:13

OP, I'm not sure where you get the idea that you are "flakey" - does it come from him? Just from some of the things you have posted, it's almost as if he is condescending or patronising about you - have I got that wrong?

Kleinzeit · 22/08/2017 19:36

Isn't that a bit harsh

It's certainly too harsh if he's already waited around for you or has accompanied you when it hasn't been convenient for him. If his actions show that he treats your priorities as seriously as his own, then yes it's too harsh. But if he hasn't done it yet then it's not harsh, it's pointing out that he doesn't talk about it seriously either.

I took it as he was open-minded enough to see that I needed to get away and encouraged me to do so..

And is that enough? And will it be enough in three years' time when he's considering a starting a family? Perhaps he'll decide you should have had enough adventures by then and it's time you grew up and settled down or else he'd rather marry someone serious from his own locale. Which is why you really need to get this out in the open before spending much more of your life on him.

ChangeElectricSupplier1 · 22/08/2017 20:06

"you are slowly dying" - move to the city, do the things that you enjoy, join some clubs, some evening classes, go to theatre, meet artists, meet new people, do new things, all this sounds exciting...

He will probably be still in his village in 70 years time - do you really want that and sounds boring

I know what I would choose

40 minutes is nothing if he wishes to visit you

user1471134011 · 22/08/2017 21:35

In two or three years time, we can review: after being gently introduced to the city, could he imagine moving to the suburbs? Now that I have a network of city-based people in the region, could I envisage moving to a big fuck-off house in the country, safe in the knowledge that I have friends and a community in the city, a concrete reason to be in the city for my 'city fix'?

(Gently and kindly meant) OP do you usually struggle to let go of friendships/relationships that have run their course? Are you an excessively nurturing type? I read that post and wondered why on earth you need him to be gently introduced to the city? Is he easily startled? Skittish tendencies? It's ok to have tried and there is no shame at all if it doesn't work out

splendidisolation · 24/08/2017 07:30

UPDATE: I had the conversation with him, told him everything.

He said I should do it, he just wants me to be happy and for us to be fulfilled in our lives separately and together and that if for me that meant the city then thats where I needed to be. He said he wasnt surprised and had been worrying I was getting frustrated and thats also why he hadnt wanted to move in together.
He said we could open a shared account if I liked and each put some money in every month with the goal of buying somewhere together, whether we ended up living together in the country, in the suburbs or just having a holiday home.
He said I was the woman of his life and it was always going to be a hallenge re our living situation but he didnt see why we had to stick to convention.
Finally he said i was blowing it all up in my head: in reality it just means an extra 20 minutes in the car to come to mine compared to the drive he already does.

Im absolutely thrilled!

OP posts:
blueskyinmarch · 24/08/2017 07:43

What a great update. He obviously loves you and cares about your happiness. Keep us updated on your big move!

KitKat1985 · 24/08/2017 07:58

What a lovely update. Smile

rider1975 · 24/08/2017 08:04

I'd move to the city. We have similar situation and one of us had to compromise - he moved from a small rural village outside UK to West London. I couldn't have made the change - not yet anyway - but he's doing fine and goes home as often as he can and I don't expect him to take busy public transport, go into central London or be around busy places. I appreciate his effort - I really do

rider1975 · 24/08/2017 08:04

Awww brilliant update - chuffed for you OP Flowers

Summerswallow · 24/08/2017 08:41

Great- now do it and keep talking! Glad that you got it out in the open. You will find a way if you are meant to be together.

Kleinzeit · 24/08/2017 09:05

That's great! Hope it works out well for both of you Flowers

Teddy7878 · 24/08/2017 09:11

Move to the city!
I really loved my ex but we just weren't compatible with things like where we wanted to live or our interests outside of work. It was horrible but we ended up breaking up and I'm now with someone who I also really love but we have way more in common too.
Not wanting to live in the same place is a pretty big deal as it means one of you will have to seriously compromise their happiness further down the line

Teddy7878 · 24/08/2017 09:12

Just read your update and sounds like he's willing to compromise which is definitely a very good sign. Move, be happy and save for your joint house together. Win win

Arrietty123 · 24/08/2017 09:19

Hi op, that's fantastic news. Sounds like he's as invested in the relationship as you are so that's great. Hope that you find a lovely place in the city.

TheCuriousOwl · 24/08/2017 19:24

I've just come to this thread and this is a great update! I'm in a similar (ish) situation in that there's no way I'm moving to where my OH lives but he has to be there for work so we have 2 places we live and see each other when we can and tbh if we got married right now that wouldn't change because he HAS to be there for work and I have to be here!! I also have friends who lived in separate houses for most of their marriage. Now that they are in their 50s and 70s (her and him respectively) they do actually live together - and enjoy it.

MiniMaxi · 24/08/2017 19:26

That's great news OP! He sounds like a good un Smile

splendidisolation · 01/10/2017 17:39

UPDATE:

So I've started going into the city 3 times a week and am really enjoying it.

But today DP completely threw me by saying that he'd been thinking things over and actually he would love for us to get a house together if I would like to. He's the sort who will work through a decision before making it for good so I'm pretty sure he's pretty sure.

There's no big rush to decide, but the thing is living together would mean freeing up shit loads of money which would allow for things like saving for a deposit etc.

He made the point that it would also allow me to have the money to travel back to my home city for a few days every month (and he would be at home to look after my cats - added bonus!!!). He wondered whether rather than me actually missing the city, what I miss is not seeing my group of friends as much.

I've had a look and there are some really nice houses around here. We could actually afford a 3 or 4 bed with a garden so I could have a studio, he could have a gym, etc. Rather than live in the countryside, he would be happy to move to the town im currently in.

So I guess I have a new dilemma, MN:
A) Carry on as planned and move to the city, living separately and spending lota more money but at least I can live in a buzzing place.
B) Move in to a house together with me still going to the nearby city 3 times a week, freeing up the money to save and travel much further to my own home city once a month, but not living "in the buzz".

What do you reckon?

OP posts:
Joysmum · 01/10/2017 19:47

I wouldn't buy together without trialing it by renting together first.