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Speeding husband...our problems are all my fault

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MissCommunication · 12/08/2017 10:20

I don't know how or where to start. I've got another thread going about my DH driving really fast in Germany with the kids and I in the car and about his general fast driving. There is a lot else going on in our marriage and we are at a crisis point after I broached the subject of the speeding last weekend and he blew his top.

Our relationship has always been tricky. When we met he was going through a messy divorce and there was loads going on with his DD (then 9) and exW and we really suffered. I was told I made no effort and contributed a lot to the acrimony. DH (we got married 6 years ago, got together 8 years ago) has always made me feel like I do things wrong. An example early in our relationship was me going out for dinner for a friend's birthday supper. I gave an ETA not REALLY knowing how evening was going to pan out but sent regular updates becuase it was a ten course tasting menu and it was running over massively. When I got home the house was dark and he was "asleep"...you could cut the atmosphere in the bedroom with a knife and he wouldn't talk to me. Eventually told me how rude, selfish and inconsiderate I was for being later than I said.

I was training hard to get to the Olympics and he was very supportive, practically and financially (significant because I became reliant on him and have no savings of my own) and he was also dealing with a lot. I tried to be as supportive as I could but the situation became untenable and I ended it. He went ALL out to repair it so I went back. My Olympic dream shattered but a few weeks later I found out I was pregnant. Around the same time my best friend, who is a very opinionated, strong-willed and black and white person, was cut out from our lives because things blew up around her feeling he was controlling me and trapping me, and he felt she was getting in too close and was destructive. Basically he told me I wasn't to have any contact with her, which left me without my friends because she was an integral part of my group of friends and I wasn't able to see them naturally and normally. Feeling depressed and hormonal and alone throughout pregnancy and baby days, I became very unwell. I wasn't sleeping with the baby and DH was training for an Ironman. It was a terrible spiral and I became more and more depressed. When I saw my friend in the street I mentioned it to DH because I was afraid he'd find out and be angry and I felt it best to be up front, and he went off, I was begging and sobbing and so it went on, self harming and crying and not sleeping and generally awful. One day it all got too much as it was happening so often and I decided to end it all. Attempt 1. A few weeks later I tried again in my car but bottled it. To my complete and utter shame, I had also lashed out at DH and walloped him in sheer and utter frustration and hopelessness. That was unforgiveable. I felt driven into such a corner and bashing myself around the head on brick walls, rolling pins, fists, anything that came to hand was just as bad. I must say that I have never ever hurt or touched the children. Ever.

Anyway, I got medication and started to feel much better and drink a lot less. Things didn't improve in terms of the rows but I harmed less. A friend took her own life through hanging and it was a terrible shock, and I connected with DH a bit more through the sadness, although only a few weeks previously I'd planned to leave him. Cue unexpected pregnancy. I was in turmoil about whether to keep the baby given the terrible state of our marriage but I wrote a letter to him and really laid it on the line that I was choosing it and we choose each other, warts and all. He didn't acknowledge it really although we were in counselling (not that it has made much difference).

The pregnancy somehow reset me and I am no longer depressed or medicated. I am strong and feel so much better. Baby is now 1 year old and a petal. I have committed not to fight or shout in front of the children after DS (aged 5) called me a nasty woman and there's only one place he heard that. DH blames me for everything...says I don't cope, can't cope, treat him badly, treat the children badly, am inconsistent, my behaviour is disgusting etc etc. I admit that I have done things wrong. I have been moody at 8am when DH comes bouncing down the stairs at 8am when I've been up with one or both kids and the day has started at 5am for me. I wasn't given the support with DS (first baby) and felt so alone with no network around me - our families live far away (Brazil and Africa and nearest family is 2 hours away) but I am doing so much better now in every way. I admit that when DH does things that anger me such as fuck about on his phone for hours while I deal with the children and then blames me for preventing him from spending time with them, I don't talk about it and bottle it up which is probably why he says I'm nasty and moody and treat him badly.

I've done things wrong and have my flaws. I can't write any more because I never get time to myself and kids are playing up and DH will be back soon and my window of opportunity has gone now. I've left so much out but tried to be balanced. I'm sorry if this is garbled. I've not given the story from last night as I can't right now but wil update when I next get a chance.

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EasyToEatTiger · 27/08/2017 20:23

I'd forgotten about that, when my husband told me I could not look after my children and he would make sure I didn't. It goes on. He told me that my family was mad and I was no better. I don't remember the exact words. He has said it more than once.

Alittlepotofrosie · 27/08/2017 21:03

Go back and read your previous posts on this thread to strengthen your resolve. You can't fix this and you can't make it ok. This is who he is.

blaukop · 27/08/2017 21:44

This is just wrong, on every level. No one person has the right to try and get into another person's head, to exert control over them.

MissCommunication · 27/08/2017 21:49

Thanks all. Tiger my DH says that whenever I'm with my family, in particular my DSis, that he is excluded and might as well not be there. He often just sits there when people are here, not saying much or consider tributing very little, playing on his phone or tablet or whatever. It's very noticeable but I know not to call him out on it because it'll be because I make it so hard for him and it's so unpleasant to be around me. That's apparently why I'd be playing with DS for hours in the next room while he fucked about surfing the negative of waggling fucking box sets. He blames me for his health problems, I don't give enough support etc etc blah blah.

Do you know what? I'm. Boring. Myself.

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MissCommunication · 27/08/2017 21:53

My effing phone.

Contributing very little.

Surfing the net or watching box sets.

Ffs

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mathanxiety · 27/08/2017 22:07

Tell him you're sorry he feels that way. Practice saying it.

blaukop · 27/08/2017 22:21

Very very sound advice!

EasyToEatTiger · 27/08/2017 22:25

My husband has no friends or family he has any relationship with. So he uses mine. He contributes little, and uses the time to build up a vitriol against me and my friends and family. All summer I have not included him in my stuff. I don't want him there as his only intention is to use it against me.

blaukop · 27/08/2017 22:28

You can't engage with someone who puts themselves on the outside of whatever is going on, and then blames you for not paying him enough attention! Childish and petulant, to say the least;

blaukop · 27/08/2017 22:29

And, btw, it's fucking rude!

MissCommunication · 28/08/2017 08:55

Having barely spoken to me the whole of yesterday this morning I was danced with in the kitchen. Neck kissed. Hands rubbed all over my back. I couldn't deal with the fallout if I'd said to him to stop...it would have antagonised him massively. I need a level day today so that I can make going to family this week easier without him having a go. I am hoping to speak to SHL (he should be SH at £125+vat for 30 mins...I've stashed the cash) this week.

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Cambionome · 28/08/2017 09:01

God - the kissing and the rubbing... Angry

I'm surprised you didn't slap his hands away!

Massively well done with arranging the SHL though.Flowers

Kr1stina · 28/08/2017 09:17

You only have a short time with the lawyer . Make sure you have all the right paperwork with you and a note of assets etc.

Loopytiles · 28/08/2017 13:42

There is a thread on the relationships or divorce board about preparing for initial lawyer appointments, to make the most of the limited time.

Cambionome · 29/08/2017 13:09

How is it going today, op?

mathanxiety · 30/08/2017 03:57

Yuck. He is goading you into a reaction that he will use to accuse you of being frigid or unhinged.

Stay calm. Tell the lawyer you are dealing with a man who is emotionally and psychologically abusing you and is very likely a narcissist. Ask him straight out if he has experience dealing with opposing parties who are abusive, irrational and unreasonable, and who will be very angry about divorce and will seek revenge via money or custody or accusations of abuse/unfitness to parent on your part against him.

You should read this, by Lundy Bancroft:
lundybancroft.com/articles/understanding-the-batterer-in-custody-and-visitation-disputes/
'Understanding the Batterer in Custody and Visitation Disputes'

It is quite long, but you and your lawyer should be aware of what to look out for.

Ask your lawyer if he/she is familiar with this or other Bancroft writings.

pictish · 30/08/2017 07:23

It's just all manipulation and control games isn't it?

pictish · 30/08/2017 07:25

And yes to 'yuck'. Is there anything that makes your skin crawl more than being essentially forced to accept the affectionate advances of someone who treats you like shit, knowing if you refuse it'll start WW3?

MissCommunication · 30/08/2017 07:30

Hi All
I'm in a bit of a pickle this evening. DH is still being loving and gentle after having spent all.of Sunday sulking and ignoring me and I am feeling so guilty and as though nothing is THAT bad.

I went to see SHL yesterday afternoon and came away feeling much better. The bill will be big as was there just over an hour but so worth it to put my mind at rest. I think he will have very little truck with anything DH tries to pull but at this stage. It's just taking a step at a time and when the time comes to deal with what's thrown at us. He's made me feel very well taken care of. As for children it's a case of building up contact especially as am still breastfeeding.

It might not happen for a while yet or I might be pushed to make it happen in a week. I don't know. I have to be ready in myself first. Oh. He's going to Australia. On 6th September. DS first day of school. I'm not sure why he has organised it like this especially as he has been so insistent know walking DS to school every day when the time comes, almost to the point of not wanting me to do it.

Help!!! I hate all of this.

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Loopytiles · 30/08/2017 09:48

That's great about the solicitor. Did he say anything about gathering copies of financial documents etc?

Are you at your parents'?

Remember, being nice sometimes isn't unusual for abusive men and is part of the "cycle".

Loopytiles · 30/08/2017 09:48

It's good that he is going to Australia: hope it's for a long time!!

EasyToEatTiger · 30/08/2017 10:50

Have you been to the police yet or Womens' Aid? They will help you with the criminal side of things. Your SHL will help you with the civil side. Your husband is a criminal. His behaviour is not right and it is against the law. I hope it comes as a welcome relief when you husband goes away. My husband's first family told him how relieved they all felt when he was travelling. Idiot 'therapist' said to both of us, Oh, it must have been difficult when they'd got their lives in order and he returned to upset it. Poor little husband. In fact when he was at home, he sulked, complained and was a total shithead. Now he's older he's just more.

yawning801 · 30/08/2017 11:16

I read your other thread about the speeding and I'm glad you're getting things in motion with SHL. Flowers

MisguidedAngel · 30/08/2017 12:57

There's so much good advice on here that I hesitated to add my two penn'orth, but here goes.

I was in a relationship with someone nowhere near as bad as your husband. After he left me, a friend of his told me that he used to wonder out loud "Shall I be nice or nasty to Misguided when I get home?". It's nothing to do with you. It's a mind fuck.

Please take notice of the warnings from previous posters.

mathanxiety · 30/08/2017 13:15

^^ This.

'Do not take it personally' may seem a really odd thing to say when you are almost dizzy from the changes of mood and at your wit's end trying to figure him out.

But it really is just him getting off on his own power and every decision about how he treats you and the children is random and only made on the basis of how it will make him feel. Overall, the sense of power he gets from seeing your reaction to random speech or actions is what he wants.

You need to call Women's Aid.

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