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Speeding husband...our problems are all my fault

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MissCommunication · 12/08/2017 10:20

I don't know how or where to start. I've got another thread going about my DH driving really fast in Germany with the kids and I in the car and about his general fast driving. There is a lot else going on in our marriage and we are at a crisis point after I broached the subject of the speeding last weekend and he blew his top.

Our relationship has always been tricky. When we met he was going through a messy divorce and there was loads going on with his DD (then 9) and exW and we really suffered. I was told I made no effort and contributed a lot to the acrimony. DH (we got married 6 years ago, got together 8 years ago) has always made me feel like I do things wrong. An example early in our relationship was me going out for dinner for a friend's birthday supper. I gave an ETA not REALLY knowing how evening was going to pan out but sent regular updates becuase it was a ten course tasting menu and it was running over massively. When I got home the house was dark and he was "asleep"...you could cut the atmosphere in the bedroom with a knife and he wouldn't talk to me. Eventually told me how rude, selfish and inconsiderate I was for being later than I said.

I was training hard to get to the Olympics and he was very supportive, practically and financially (significant because I became reliant on him and have no savings of my own) and he was also dealing with a lot. I tried to be as supportive as I could but the situation became untenable and I ended it. He went ALL out to repair it so I went back. My Olympic dream shattered but a few weeks later I found out I was pregnant. Around the same time my best friend, who is a very opinionated, strong-willed and black and white person, was cut out from our lives because things blew up around her feeling he was controlling me and trapping me, and he felt she was getting in too close and was destructive. Basically he told me I wasn't to have any contact with her, which left me without my friends because she was an integral part of my group of friends and I wasn't able to see them naturally and normally. Feeling depressed and hormonal and alone throughout pregnancy and baby days, I became very unwell. I wasn't sleeping with the baby and DH was training for an Ironman. It was a terrible spiral and I became more and more depressed. When I saw my friend in the street I mentioned it to DH because I was afraid he'd find out and be angry and I felt it best to be up front, and he went off, I was begging and sobbing and so it went on, self harming and crying and not sleeping and generally awful. One day it all got too much as it was happening so often and I decided to end it all. Attempt 1. A few weeks later I tried again in my car but bottled it. To my complete and utter shame, I had also lashed out at DH and walloped him in sheer and utter frustration and hopelessness. That was unforgiveable. I felt driven into such a corner and bashing myself around the head on brick walls, rolling pins, fists, anything that came to hand was just as bad. I must say that I have never ever hurt or touched the children. Ever.

Anyway, I got medication and started to feel much better and drink a lot less. Things didn't improve in terms of the rows but I harmed less. A friend took her own life through hanging and it was a terrible shock, and I connected with DH a bit more through the sadness, although only a few weeks previously I'd planned to leave him. Cue unexpected pregnancy. I was in turmoil about whether to keep the baby given the terrible state of our marriage but I wrote a letter to him and really laid it on the line that I was choosing it and we choose each other, warts and all. He didn't acknowledge it really although we were in counselling (not that it has made much difference).

The pregnancy somehow reset me and I am no longer depressed or medicated. I am strong and feel so much better. Baby is now 1 year old and a petal. I have committed not to fight or shout in front of the children after DS (aged 5) called me a nasty woman and there's only one place he heard that. DH blames me for everything...says I don't cope, can't cope, treat him badly, treat the children badly, am inconsistent, my behaviour is disgusting etc etc. I admit that I have done things wrong. I have been moody at 8am when DH comes bouncing down the stairs at 8am when I've been up with one or both kids and the day has started at 5am for me. I wasn't given the support with DS (first baby) and felt so alone with no network around me - our families live far away (Brazil and Africa and nearest family is 2 hours away) but I am doing so much better now in every way. I admit that when DH does things that anger me such as fuck about on his phone for hours while I deal with the children and then blames me for preventing him from spending time with them, I don't talk about it and bottle it up which is probably why he says I'm nasty and moody and treat him badly.

I've done things wrong and have my flaws. I can't write any more because I never get time to myself and kids are playing up and DH will be back soon and my window of opportunity has gone now. I've left so much out but tried to be balanced. I'm sorry if this is garbled. I've not given the story from last night as I can't right now but wil update when I next get a chance.

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EasyToEatTiger · 26/08/2017 10:05

My husband has not issued death threats as such. He has wished me dead though. He is registered with the police and has a crime number. I am still waiting and waiting and waiting to make a video statement. So far it has taken the entire summer holidays. I am drugged up to my eyeballs to stop my heart and my head exploding. It is not good.

He had me arrested for 'punching' him. I told the duty solicitor at the police station that I didn't recognise this, and he said that common assault can be shoving someone. My husband arrived at the police station to bring me home saying he was the victim Hmm and was firmly told to leave. He then found a solicitor to write to me saying I'd kicked him and that I was abusing him and for me to leave my home within a week or face a non molestation and an order to leave home. I have never kicked my husband.

Now he is pressurising me to hand him the marriage certificate and hand over details of my solicitor. He actually doesn't need either of those things and is asking the wrong person.

I cannot safely get on with divorce proceedings. It is horrible being held in limbo like this.

PickAChew · 26/08/2017 11:17

No idea what he's trying to achieve there, since marriage certificates can usually be replaced.

nauticant · 26/08/2017 11:57

He will know that but he will be using this as a way of harassing EasyToEatTiger. It provides him with yet another excuse to make demands to keep his victim feeling vulnerable.

With these disgusting men, everything is about power over the victim.

MissCommunication · 26/08/2017 12:28

I've just been told I make as much effort as a teacake. He's been out doing his thing for 3.5 hours (he said he'd be gone a couple of hours) and was sitting on sofa. He said you can come and give me a hug so I sat next to him anx put my arm around him and he got snotty. I said is that not right and he stalked off making the teacake comment. This was after I was trying to get a splinter out of DS hand and he was sitting on DH lap. My left boob was near DH leg and he made a joke about me pressing it against it and I said I'm really not and he said yes, chance would be a fine thing. I'm trying to be grey rock but it is just creating even more atmosphere.

I'm constantly on edge.

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Cambionome · 26/08/2017 17:23

He is a really unpleasant and unkind person. You just don't need someone like this in your life, op. Sad

You need to start making plans to get away from him; take it very carefully, don't let him know what you are up to, and start discreetly sounding out friends/ relatives who can help you and check out finances etc.

I know it's hard, but you can do it.

mathanxiety · 26/08/2017 18:52

Next time he makes a remark like that tell him you are sorry he feels that way. Use a neutral tone.

You do not have to address any detail of what he says to you.

Blow it all off.

EasyToEatTiger · 26/08/2017 21:07

Please speak to the police and report what is going on. Yes, it is vulnerability inducing to realise what an effing arse your husband is. However, with the support of WA and the police and all the other places you can use, you will feel more confident about being a grey rock.

MissCommunication · 26/08/2017 23:01

I feel like a drama queen.

And whilst today I've had moments of intense dislike towards him, this evening I'm feeling bad and like I'm making a big deal over nothing. This is how I always end up feeling, even after pretty awful days!

And Tiger, I truly hope you start seeing things move forward and that you can build your new life. X

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MissCommunication · 26/08/2017 23:03

I go to bed each night thankful that the baby has woken up and that I need to be with her so I don't have to avoid sex if he starts to come onto me. That's awful, isn't it?

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EasyToEatTiger · 26/08/2017 23:10

I feel like a drama queen too sometimes. However, it is a fact that my husband has called me a cunt, used me as a cunt, has wished me dead, and wishes me harm. I don't know how long ago I started posting about my husband, but certainly 5 years ago. He has just upped the ante. I think we spend time in denial, wishing it were not as it is, and thinking that somehow things will change. They don't and they get worse.

EasyToEatTiger · 26/08/2017 23:14

One time, early in our relationship we were out with a vulnerable friend drinking wine. We arrived back at her flat and were mucking around. My husband(then my boyfriend) was about to stick his dick in her and I said What the hell do you think you're doing? He stopped. I felt like a whore

MissCommunication · 26/08/2017 23:23

That's disgusting. So sorry x

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EasyToEatTiger · 26/08/2017 23:40

I'm ashamed to say that nearly 20 years later I am asking for help.

Loopytiles · 27/08/2017 08:53

Very sorry your H is so abusive Tiger. It's not too late to get help and get out.

MissCommunication · 27/08/2017 14:02

The atmosphere in the house is awful today. I went out early to do a bit of sport as we have arranged every week for several weeks, even changing my day from Saturday to Sunday so he could join a group. He doesn't feel the need to remind new he's going out so I did talk remind him. He was asleep in the spare room so I woke him up to have baby monitor as DD was still asleep. I said I was giving out and he says oh I didn't know in a snotty way.

I went out and had a good time, was back early when I said I would be but he has practically ignored me all day. Won't talk to me. Won't do anything as a family. Won't say anything other than I don't mind if I ask if we go out or stay home or do jobs...he's totally in punishment mode for the second time this week and I am exhausted by feeling apprehensive and nervous. I was so nervous about coming home earlier. When I came into the room he walked straight out, like he's teaching me a lesson or something. This whole weekend is going to be awful. We had spoken about going on a family holiday this week but I've not pursued it because i dont think it's appropriate to go away when he's ignored the messages I've sent trying to sort it out, when we are living in this sad version of a marriage. So I thought I'd take the kids to my family for two or three nights. Is that wrong? I could do with getting away but he will say I've stopped him having a holiday with his kids and taking them away from him if I do go away. If I don't go we will be stuck with this cycle again and again. DS starts school very soon and I'd like him to have a trip somewhere. Help. What do I say to DH? What do I do? Whatever I do it'll be wrong but this atmosphere is killing me.

Help. Sad

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MissCommunication · 27/08/2017 14:04

Stupid phone. He doesn't remind me so I didn't think I needed to remind him especially as I've changed MY days around for him. And I was back EXACTLY when I said, not early. Gah!

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Loopytiles · 27/08/2017 14:13

Do your jobs today, ignore his sulking, and tell H you're planning a short trip to your family. A break away from him would probably do you and the DC good. If he wishes to organise a holiday he can say so.

Loopytiles · 27/08/2017 14:14

He can think/say what he likes about what you do: you don't have to take it in.

Alittlepotofrosie · 27/08/2017 14:28

Why oh why are you trying to "sort it out"? This will be it for the rest of your life if you continue to put up with it.

Take the kids away, tell your family what he's done. Get some rl support.

Alittlepotofrosie · 27/08/2017 14:28

Why oh why are you trying to "sort it out"? This will be it for the rest of your life if you continue to put up with it.

Take the kids away, tell your family what he's done. Get some rl support.

EasyToEatTiger · 27/08/2017 14:39

It's horrible isn't it. I took the kids away for a couple of days last week. What a relief it was to get away. It was a nightmare before leaving as my husband was in psycho mood. Take with you what you need, like your passport, marriage certificate, any documentation you may need, and of course the keys to your house. Also please, please tell the police what is going on.

thestamp · 27/08/2017 14:46

Stop looking for his approval op.

He's not your dad. He's a fellow adult.

He doesn't want you to feel safe, happy or validated... If you did he wouldn't be able to control you as well as he does. Please accept that. There's nothing for you here. He doesn't want there to be anything for you

Loopytiles · 27/08/2017 15:20

Badgering you for sex frequently is another big red flag. You can't "sort it out" when the problem is he's abusive.

MissCommunication · 27/08/2017 18:54

Yes Loopy he mentions sex or blow jobs several times a day. I'm sure he thinks he's being lighthearted and jokey but I find it grating and unpleasant and pressurising. I could never tell him that though. It would be made my fault for not making an effort or contributing to the marriage.

He did something today that really bothered me. At lunchtime baby was sitting at the opposite end of the table. She was clamouring for cheese and he cut her a piece and just threw it across the table to her. Like you would to an animal. Then when she couldn't reach he did it with another piece. When he's calling either DC (but mainly baby as she isn't talking yet) to come to him he whistles like he's calling a dog or a cat. I fucking hate it.

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mathanxiety · 27/08/2017 19:10

He doesn't think he is being lighthearted. He knows it is getting under your skin.

Please respond to whatever he says about 'taking his* children away' with "I'm sorry you feel that way". Do not engage with whatever random shit he throws at you (he does not really care what you do - all he wants is your constant attention and to keep you on edge).

*Wrt the phrase 'his' children.
This is a huge red flag.
If this is the phrase he uses it is a signal that he considers himself the owner of you and the children.
This is the psychological gateway to emotional, physical, sexual and psychological abuse of you all - as I have said before, DO NOT DISCOUNT THE POSSIBILITY THAT HE WILL SEXUALLY ABUSE THE CHILDREN. This is on top of his constant reference to sex, and throwing food to a child, and whistling as if calling a dog is a signal that he does not see them as human. He has completely devalued the children.
You do not throw food at people.

This man is very dangerous, MissCommunication, and you must leave.
You cannot sort it out.

Please consider contacting DSD's mother when you go away to your parents.
(You absolutely should go to your parents).

PLEASE call Women's Aid:
0808 2000 247
You can do this when you are at your parents' house.