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Is he having an affair #2

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worldupsidedown · 08/08/2017 23:03

Continuing on from 'is he having an affair'

23:03 and still not home.

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worldupsidedown · 09/08/2017 12:36

I'll get the holiday card off him first, if I stop the one he's using he'll suspect something. Then I'll cancel the one he's using

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Doublemint · 09/08/2017 12:37

Surely he's technically stolen your card? Tell him to give it back NOW. If he refuses then cancel it!

I'm shocked at the twattery this man has shown!

Doublemint · 09/08/2017 12:37

Do what @Funko said for sure.

worldupsidedown · 09/08/2017 12:38

Card is in my name, but it's paid off from our joint account where salary is paid in. It was in effect a joint card. Until now we shared everything

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worldupsidedown · 09/08/2017 12:38

We both have a card

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Funko · 09/08/2017 12:40

Ok but still take the same from the holiday card in His name. Why should you pay for his fun? And then still cancel his card on your account.

Funko · 09/08/2017 12:41

You could pay the divorce filing fee on it 😄

Doublemint · 09/08/2017 12:42

@Funko YES!

worldupsidedown · 09/08/2017 12:43

Ok, when I get the paper statement through I'll go through everything his paid for both of them and transfer it from our joint to mine 'for me and DD'

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worldupsidedown · 09/08/2017 12:43

I'll keep doing that from now on, he spends on both of them,I spend on both of us

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Dailystuck71 · 09/08/2017 12:44

Can you transfer the balance in your card to the one in his name and that will clear your one?

TeamCersei · 09/08/2017 12:44

so if she's single does she live with her parents? How young is she, exactly?

uggh, he sounds grubbier by the minute.

Raindancer411 · 09/08/2017 12:47

Do you both work? Can you get your wage paid into a separate account and then just have to put money towards bills when they come in?

When you spoke to the solicitor have you started things in motion or waiting on anything?

worldupsidedown · 09/08/2017 12:48

All cards are paid off in full every month from our joint account

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fuckingbigbowloffucksoup · 09/08/2017 12:48

If the cc account is yours with him as a named card holder you can just cancel his card and ask them to not replace it as he doesn't need it anymore

Then pay off his expenses out of the joint account before transferring the exact same amount from joint account somewhere just for you and DD that he can't access

worldupsidedown · 09/08/2017 12:48

I'm SAHM

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Doublemint · 09/08/2017 12:49

Urgh so you've been in effect paying for half of his affair and he's been aware of this?

What a total cunt he is.

Cromwell1536 · 09/08/2017 12:51

I"m sorry you're facing this OP, good luck. No advice to offer from my own experience as I've never been through it. But a friend of mine:

kept working and building her own career
hired a lawyer from Mishon de Rey (same one as Princess Di) who helped keep her focused on practical strategy - basically said, now you've decided you want to divorce, you have to think tactics, and take all the emotion out of it.
apart from one wobble, when she confronted the other woman, kept completely calm and clear.

Oh, also had visiting arrangements for children in place from day one of husband moving out. He went stratight to the other woman, who had also left her husband, so the marital home was hers and the children's from the outset. Within days she had set up an arrangement where he had them EOW (Friday evening through to MOnday morning - pick up and drop to school) and every Wednesday overnight - again, pick up and drop to school. She never, ever let him forget his parental responsibilities and she made damn sure that she was going to have a life and NOT be left looking after children while he had a childfree existence with his new girlfriend. It also made the kids feel more secure that both parents still cared.

On a practical note: everyone is saying, make him move out. But if a spouse says, 'Actually, it's my house too, I pay (half/all/whatever) the mortgage and (half/all/whatever) the bills and no, I'm not going to move to a Premier Inn/couch-surf/stump up thousands in deposit and rent right now, I"m going to stay here until we divorce and get a financial settlement, and you may not like it and I can see why you wouldn't, but if you dislike it so much then you move out' - is there anything that can be done?

butterfly198615 · 09/08/2017 12:54

I've been watching this thread from the start but haven't commented as I'm not in this situation so can really say what to do, only give advice on what i would do , as other people have done.
You are a fantastic woman and I admire you for what you have done in terms of all the evidence you have found and still kept calm and waited. If that was me I would of gone ape shit.
I'm so sorry this is the out come. But I would put my foot down and not let him walk all over you anymore, he's lived the life of Riley and now expects you to still want to carry on as normal. Has he got any emotions at all. As far as you were aware until recently everything was ok he was a bit moody etc, you love him how can he expect you to just carry on as normal.
He's a total prick and you are better off as far away from him as possible. I can't give advice on what to do regarding house etc. But I'm dam right sure I would kick him out, all his bags would be packed as soon has he got home from his cosy little date with her. He can go and stay at hers and if she is married tough shit. No one should have to deal with this, her husband or partner needs to know the truth also if she is married etc. I wouldn't argue with him just say your bags are there , get out, and that if he thinks he has then right to stay there he hasn't thought it through enough. I couldn't even look at him.
As for the other woman , she might not even know that your husband is married to you.
There is no come back from this I don't think, I couldnt live with my husband knowing he's touched another woman let alone had sex with her. I would also see another solicitor. It's adultery as your married so you can file for divorce on this I'm sure. And if I have heard right from people who have had affairs and what not as you have a child you get to keep the house I think until your daughter is 18. Maybe that's old rule don't know but he has a cheek to say he wants you to live seperate lives but live in the same house, it's ridiculous.

Big hugs and a hand to hold, you are a strong woman and I'm in awe of you your patients and the way you have delt with it up to now is something I could never do. You are amazing.

socubatevira · 09/08/2017 12:58

Wish we could put itching powder in his pants and let him spread it to her. Both of them scratching their nether regions for dear life on their trip away!! 🤓

Not making light, just had to cool myself down with the thoughts of murder and such!!!

honeyroar · 09/08/2017 12:58

You really need to get that divorce started for your own safety. You need financial arrangements set in stone and the joint accounts closed totally. Finding cards and hiding them only solves issues temporarily.

Throw your energy into getting yourself sorted. Get three house valuations, so you can provide them to solicitors, change wills, find out what mortgage you could take on alone etc. Pack all his clothes up and put them in the spare room (when I say pack, I mean dump them in a corner, tip the drawers out, whatever, to make it so he doesn't have to come into your room for anything. If it's all sitting there when he comes home he will get a clear indication that things are going to change, even if he doesn't think they are. Tell everyone. They will all be shocked and mostly on your side. He will be ashamed and guilty for a short time only. Use that time to get everything sorted. When my cheating ex first confessed I was a tearful, broken wreck. When I saw him a week later I had had the house valued, seen a solicitor, made lists of what belonged to whom to divide the household goods up, and it knocked the smug wind out of his sails for a while. I know it's horrible and you're hurting, but doing things like that gives you back control and power again, and it feels good.

And next time he says "why didn't you say?" Reply that you were hanging onto the hope that he had more morals and wouldn't be so disrespectful in his disgusting treatment of you.v if he brings up that he'd felt like this for ages tell him he should have had the decency to say something, not just gone off and found someone else to shag. And when he says they have more in common reply that they certainly have low morals in common. Do not let him throw blame at you! He is to blame, 100%.

Raindancer411 · 09/08/2017 12:58

If he is the only earner, it is a difficult one. I know of three scenarios for that for some of my friends...

Did the solicitor talk about what you may get out of a divorce? X

worldupsidedown · 09/08/2017 13:04

I'm going to tell him that he needs to move in with YOW

If she's single she surely must have her own place?
Your not in a relationship with us anymore, you have a relationship with her, not just 'casual sex', you've been having dinner, visits to museums, stayed in apartments, the cinema, booked a weekend away together, that's a relationship isn't it?
If she's who you want to be with instead of us, you should go and be with her.'

Oh! She lives with her parents?! (I bloody hope so, I love that spin!)

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Kaleidogyn · 09/08/2017 13:05

World - good! Keep track of everything & transfer every penny for you & DD. Rosewood could have been dinner before cinema? Or another time. Everything he has spent / spends, match it for you & DD. It sounds like he isn't watching the accounts, so he won't even notice. Get yourself a wee holiday / treat fund set up. You're being very proactive in all of this - that will stand you in good stead for whatever comes.

I'd be out buying up designer bags already & sending myself bouquets from Wild at Heart! I'm clearly a vindictive cow!

Closest I've come to this is putting ex boyfriend's stuff in a bin bag & chucking it out of the car (with his guitar) as I drove past his friend's house. I also pissed on his towels & laughed uproariously at the thought of him drying himself with my piss! Confused

user1485639128 · 09/08/2017 13:05

How much younger is she? Could be parents/ house share etc

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