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Is he having an affair #2

923 replies

worldupsidedown · 08/08/2017 23:03

Continuing on from 'is he having an affair'

23:03 and still not home.

OP posts:
Ledkr · 09/08/2017 11:47

Op let me tell you about my exh MYW.
She was barely 18 and I was 38 same as him.
I was a bit fat and downtrodden after 4 kids.
She was a slim glamorous hairdresser.
They now have 4 kids under 6, a scruffy overcrowded house and she is very fat and downtrodden.
He continues to do as he pleases.

I however, am now slimmer, live in my beautiful house (bought him out) married to an amazingly kind handsome man 10 years younger (high fives) and have a great relationship with my children including dc5 who was an unexpected surprise.

I'm sure their little affair is very exciting at the moment but reality comes to everyone and st the end of the day our shit all stinks Grin

Fairenuff · 09/08/2017 11:49

Is the card in your name or his?

worldupsidedown · 09/08/2017 11:49

She lives in North London, no idea if she has her own place.

I'm thinking of suggesting he move in with her, after all, they want to be with each other so much, he'd rather be with her than us, he's sacrificed his family to be with her, so why not?, makes perfect sense!

OP posts:
SchnitzelVonKrumm · 09/08/2017 11:51

The hotels and apartments strongly suggest he can't go to her place, so if she's single does she live with her parents? How young is she, exactly?

worldupsidedown · 09/08/2017 11:51

Jees, if they can't go back to her place maybe she does still live with parents, in which case is he old enough to be her father?!

OP posts:
FoxyinherRoxy · 09/08/2017 11:51

Just tell him to go. It doesn't matter where.

SchnitzelVonKrumm · 09/08/2017 11:52

Don't suggest it, insist on it!

MyDarlingWhatIfYouFly · 09/08/2017 11:52

So sorry op Flowers

If he had a shred of decency (clearly not) he would leave the house immediately to give you the space you need to process it all.

Fairenuff · 09/08/2017 11:52

You could try telling him to go. But it looks as if he won't do that.

Fluerdelea · 09/08/2017 11:54

OP you need to get angry...he is spending YOUR family income getting his cake and eat it...please, please be aware as soon as reality kicks in and the excitement looses it's appeal as there's no more secrecy he will be crying on your shoulder and wanting his old life back. Get angry. Someone please post the script here

Fluerdelea · 09/08/2017 11:55

He has disrespected you...do you really think you deserve to be treated like this? You have a choice

socubatevira · 09/08/2017 11:55

TELL AND GIVE HIM NOTHING! You have said all you need to say to him. Push yourself forward with adrenaline. Get practical now, not emotional. That will come later, my love, but now you need to take back what this utter cunt has stolen from you!
"Haven't been happy in years" what a manipulative bag of bones he is! And trying to make you collude with him "you must admit you haven't been too" CUNT!!!

Option a) is no option at all.

Broadcast text to all:

Hi all, this is hard to write as I'm sure it'll be hard to read for some of you. Cunt has been having an affair and, as I found out yesterday, it has been going on for some time and he has been using our family income to conduct it with trips away etc. DD knows and is understandably devastated by cunt's behaviour. Cunt has expressed his wish to continue his affair and live at home with us as normal as he's not sure if he loves this woman or not yet. I wanted to let you all know firsthand. This is a difficult time for DD and I.

Do not engage in any to-and-fro texting with gossip hunters.

worldupsidedown · 09/08/2017 11:56

When I told him last night that I knew he was texting her right in front of me, next to me in bed, etc he said 'why didn't you say something' I said I couldn't, I just couldn't

OP posts:
SchnitzelVonKrumm · 09/08/2017 11:58

"This is unacceptable to me and so I am divorcing H for adultery with OWsname."

Fluerdelea · 09/08/2017 11:58

My God OP seriously this man has no respect for you whatsoever, he has and is walking all over you. You do not know this man anymore...

Timefortea99 · 09/08/2017 11:59

Read both threads hoping for a positive ending for you. But no, same old story. Sorry for your pain and the fact that he's awalking knob of a cliche.

Flowers
FoxyinherRoxy · 09/08/2017 11:59

If it was your DD in this position, what would you want to happen?

FoxyinherRoxy · 09/08/2017 12:00

I ask because when I looked at my DD, I knew I would move hell and high water to have her happy, and I realised if it wasn't good enough for her, why would it be good enough for me?

user1471729756 · 09/08/2017 12:00

What's the next steps from here then? I can't believe how calm you are. Stay strong u will get through this... xxx

mickyblueyes · 09/08/2017 12:01

So much of this is triggering to my experience.

hellsbellemelons (as always) has given you some excellent advice. You are going to need to start setting some boundaries with your ex. You are going to feel uncomfortable setting them but you need to do it. Don't be afraid to ignore him, tell him to speak to your solicitor. He'll try and push all your buttons with the charm, pity and rage channels when he realises he is losing control of the situation. He's playing exactly from the cheaters hand book...same old cliches...listen to what people are telling you, we've been through it.

You're doing great so far, do everything through your solicitor, disengage from him. I made some terrible mistakes in the beginning, played along with the narrative of being friends and not using solicitors at the request of my ex. He isn't your friend, friends don't do this shit, let alone someone you are married to and have children and a home with.

As others have said don't be ashamed, you've done nothing wrong. Don't vent on social media, but don't hold back from telling his family everything he has done. He's an absolute dickhead! a self entitled, narcissistic, selfish dickhead.

Probably the last thing you want to do right now is read a book, but there is a book that saved my sanity and maybe even my life when I was going through my hell...

leave a cheater, gain a life by Tracy schorn

www.chumplady.com/book/

She also has an excellent blog, it's mainly American but there are British people on there too that can offer you virtual support. Be wary of who you vent to, as nice as his best mate sounds what you tell him will no doubt get back to your ex. I found one good friend who had been through the same as me and vented to them. They were great and said i could call, text, visit any time of day. Tell your family if you haven't already, mine were great.

Good luck OP x

Fluerdelea · 09/08/2017 12:01

Sorry OP but he is not your friend...he has put himself, this OW before you his wife and his own child...you are bottom of his list of priorities. Do not tell him anything, do not do the pick me dance...please go get more legal advice and hit it where it hurts you need to protect yourself and DD's future

cannotthinkofanorginialname · 09/08/2017 12:05

Delurking to offer OP some support and echo the excellent advice given on this thread. I know your world is falling apart and it is still very early yet but I hope you find your anger soon and start making plans for life after this bastard.

You owe it to your DD to show her that this is not an acceptable way for anyone to treat their partner, on any level. I'm so sorry you are going through this but if I have learnt anything from the years I have spent reading threads on MN, you will get through this and you will be happy again, though it might not feel like it at the moment. You come across as a really nice woman, don't let this man treat you like dirt and start living like a single man in your family home. Pack up his stuff and show him the door. If he won't go, make it so uncomfortable that he has to leave. Tell everyone what he has done, don't keep it a secret. What an utter bastard. I'm raging for you! Take care of yourself OP and don't let him get away with this! Flowers

socubatevira · 09/08/2017 12:05

Yes, @SchnitzelVonKrumm .
OP, add ^ to the text too!

Please stop talking to him. He does not deserve to know anything more. "Why didn't you say anything?" Is this for real???!!!
He is such a cunt he'll prob be feeling a bit of a buzz that there's two women who 'want' him. I hate his guts for you!! How dare he do this to you??!!

Your next statement to him is:
Cunt, you've made your choice. Your deceit has surpassed anything I thought possible. This is your doing and you will have to live with that come what may. Please move your belongings into the spare room/annex and cease addressing me as your wife.

Onecutefox · 09/08/2017 12:08

World, he has screwed up the marriage and you need to screw him up in return. He is very clever as he wants to eat his cake and have it. He also doesn't want divorce because he wants plenty of money to spend om the YB (younger bitch). He was taking you for granted and still hopes he will do. Let him move in with her or rwnt somewhere else. Not your problem. Good luck and stay strong.

BewareOfDragons · 09/08/2017 12:15

When I told him last night that I knew he was texting her right in front of me, next to me in bed, etc he said 'why didn't you say something' I said I couldn't, I just couldn't

So instead of feeling ashamed, remorseful, embarrassed and/or apologetic, his gut response was to try to put your inaction re his fling on you. While you're in bed, late at night, probably undressed and feeling incredibly sad, hurt and vulnerable that the man you love and married would do this to you. Nice.

You are well rid.

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