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My porn revenge on Dh

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serephine16 · 14/07/2017 03:26

Ok- me 40, dh 44. So a few months back I found out my dh had been on a porn subreddit called gonewild a few times a week for months, which is basically real 18+ something women posting nudes of themselves. I was heavily pregnant and really low in myself, depressed and low self esteem, and in past conversations my dh had reassured me he wasn't the type to look at porn, disagreed with it vehemently to a point where he would get angry if I asked him did he ever use it. So we agreed porn had no place in our marriage. What has effected me the most, besides feeling totally inadequate was his ability to lie so convincingly and easily and it has created a huge trust problem in our marriage and I've struggled with this everyday since. Now to the point of this post- a little while after going through the subreddit he was on and torturing myself I discovered there was a gonewild30plus subreddit which again is women 30 and over posting nudes, so as pissed as I was with him I decided to get my own back and I posted a picture of my own boobs on the 30 plus page and I told him. During the time it was up I got messages and comments and upvotes from men and although I genuinely felt uncomfortable having such an intimate picture of myself on show, I felt very flattered and it upped my self esteem no end. I took the picture down as my Dh went completely crazy, extremely angry, and has said that what I have done is far far worse then him going onto the same type page basically for god knows how long and looking at many different pictures of young woman and lying to me about it. He's so angry he can't even think about it without blowing up. What I'm asking here is, was I completely out of order doing what I did? I genuinely don't think it's as bad as what he did, but am completely open to all your thoughts and opinions.
In hindsight I do realize tit for tat in a marriage is very unhealthy and I regret that aspect of it.

OP posts:
CabernetSauvignyoni · 14/07/2017 13:11

I think posting naked pictures of yourself is probably the sort of thing you should at least discuss with a partner before doing.

I think accessing naked pictures of other people (via social media, this isn't 'just' porn) is probably the sort of thing you should at least discuss with a partner before doing too.

Oh wait, they did that and he did it anyway. Apparently the outcome of those discussions is irrelevant to him, so why bother?

kaitlinktm · 14/07/2017 13:17

Sounds immature and worse than what your husband did.

Sounds about the same to me.

What you did was akin to sexting/cheating whereas what he did was look at porn

Which is creating the demand for what the OP did - so far they are equal.

You made a conscious decision to share an intimate part of you with many, many, other people who are not your husband.

Whereas he just made a conscious decision to share intimate parts of other people who are not his wife.

I'm a guy

No shit Sherlock

and if I was your husband I would be viewing what you did as infidelity.

...and I would be viewing what her OH did as infidelity - and he did it first!

I suppose it also depends how you would view him sharing dick pics on line (I think you said you wouldn't be too bothered) and how he would feel about you viewing other men's dick pics on line. What's the betting he would think that worse than him viewing women's bodies?

JAPAB · 14/07/2017 13:18

If she suggested this to him he wou1ld just become more adept at hiding his behaviour.

He might still do that anyway. Ultimately we can't know whether, in light of such a discussion, if given that opportunity, he might have re-examined things. Or decided he was OK with it.

I know it comes across like concepts of property and ownership, but people do kind of consider their partner's body and sexual activities to be "intimate relationship property". It's why most people disallow their partners to have sex with others. And those that would allow it, would probably prefer this to at least be discussed with them first.

JAPAB · 14/07/2017 13:23

I think accessing naked pictures of other people (via social media, this isn't 'just' porn) is probably the sort of thing you should at least discuss with a partner before doing too.

I agree. But what he did...is it the same as giving away, for want of a better expression, "intimate relationship property?". Where do you draw the line. Partner watches porn, ie other people having sex. So to teach him a less you film yourself having sex with someone else and post that online? No-one would call that "equal" to what he did.

JAPAB · 14/07/2017 13:26

Sorry, not trying to have a go at anyone. The OPs revenge certainly was original.

NotAnotherNoughtiesTune · 14/07/2017 13:27

I think you both did awful things.

His was more manipulative, deceitful and long lasting.

Yours was more petty and vengeful.

I think a more suitable response would've been to comment on some naked men pics with 'I wouldn't mind licking you from top to bottom' or similar. But I understand why you did it.

Either way I don't think your relationship is happy or healthy.

Your breasts being only his is fair enough - if you agree too.

He sounds sex obsessed and you sound like your self esteem is shattered.

HellonHeels · 14/07/2017 13:31

OP's breasts being "only his" is in NO WAY "fair enough".

They are OP's breasts. They are not her husband's property Angry

NotAnotherNoughtiesTune · 14/07/2017 13:32

That's what I mean Hello they are only his if she says so. After all they are attached to her so she can do what she likes with them.

JAPAB · 14/07/2017 13:36

They are OP's breasts. They are not her husband's property

They are not, but if a woman decides she want to become a topless model, or show them to the milkman for his birthday, well, plenty might not think that is is quite as simple as "her body her choice". Same goes for men with partners of course.

Argeles · 14/07/2017 13:50

Well done op, I think what you did was fabulous! It's great that it boosted your self esteem too.

Why the hell does your husband (and countless others) think it's fine to look at, and presumably wank over images of other real life women, yet he can't handle men doing the same over you? Does he not realise how hypocritical he's being?

I think this is a gigantic problem with so many men, that the women in their lives are supposed to be a whore in the bedroom, but a lady everywhere else at all times. They can wank all over whomever they please, whenever, and we're supposed to ignore it or just accept it. Whilst they like to imagine us playing with ourselves, they only want us to do it in front of them, fantasising over them. I doubt many could stand it if they walked in whilst their partner was getting them self off watching porn, or 'admiring' real life men on some kind of site, or watching that guy we're all supposed to get wet over from Poldark.

So many men just can't handle it when you try to explain that the women in porn are daughters/girlfriends/sisters/mothers etc, and that therefore, that could be you jiggling your tits about, or cupping them in a sexy photo.

I'm not anti-porn, but anti double standards and hypocrisy.

Again op, I think you did brilliantly! I'm actually wondering if some kind of mass 'revenge' campaign could come into fruition, with thousands of pissed off women all getting their bits out and posting them online!

NoLoveofMine · 14/07/2017 13:55

There have been three separate threads referencing this "gonewild" place on this board today. Does this come up a lot? Hmm

SonicBoomBoom · 14/07/2017 13:59

I think it's genius too.

He's a hypocritical git.

Jellybellyqueen · 14/07/2017 14:04

There have been three separate threads referencing this "gonewild" place on this board today. Does this come up a lot?
Apparently a favourite for porn loving (porn hiding) husbands....and 'ladies' whose self esteem relies on upvotes from heavy breathing strangers...

Hissy · 14/07/2017 14:06

my boobs were for only him to see

silly me, I thought our boobs were ours. a feeding delivery system for our offspring, or just plain old bumps in our jumpers.

Never occurred to me that my boobs belonged to my other half

I would not have done what you did OP, but hey, hats off to ya! Serves him right!

Gemini69 · 14/07/2017 14:15

alot of SMUGS on here.. how boring they are

WomblingThree · 14/07/2017 14:15

Oh is it just another bloody shill thread. 🙄

@provider5sectorzz9 your analogy was hilarious and very apt!

DearMrDilkington · 14/07/2017 14:19

It's not the best way to handle it, but I'd have done the same. I couldn't stay with a liar so I'd probably end things now too. Don't waste anymore time on him.

LanaDReye · 14/07/2017 14:33

The biggest problem with revenge is that it can leave the person whom was originally hurt feeling worse. Meanwhile the person whom should feel bad can twist the situation to suit themselves.

OP you are in a vulnerable position and shouldn't be made to feel bad about yourself as you reacted in pain. Try not to do anything else with haste that you may regret later venting on here is safer . I hope that you can assess what to do with your marriage with help in RL. Flowers

2littlemoos · 14/07/2017 14:37

Good on ya OP!

Providing you felt comfortable doing it then hopefully once he's gotten over being angry he will see your point.

If he can look at other women and not admire his own woman enough then I think you can certainly show off and be admired by others.

Some may think it is petty or irrational (haven't read previous comments) but I applaud you!

DailyWhaley · 14/07/2017 14:37

I find it ironic and funny that of all phrases you said, you put tit for tat Grin
But on a serious note I think you were both wrong - him more so than you but hopefully your marriage is bigger than this problem and you can draw a line under it and move on. Hopefully now he will understand how much of a problem it was.

SparklingRaspberry · 14/07/2017 16:10

Don't see the problem with him looking

You did what you did out of spite.

I think you need to grow up. Pathetic

SpeedboatCommuter · 14/07/2017 17:47

Thanks OP for providing some lively debate at work this afternoon, I think we all ended up on the opposite 'side' of this than we started on. I even made an account to reply.

Firstly, you don't need anyone else telling you what you did wasn't clever, either of you. What seems nice is that you've both got a clear idea what you did wrong - he broke an explicit trust and you did something purposely to hurt him.

Really, I just wanted to tell you that not everyone who looks at those sites are mouth-breathing pervert scum, and not everyone that posts on there is a silly, sad, attention seeking girl. In a strange way, I admire your bravery doing something that made you uncomfortable, and I'm glad that the attention you got made you feel better and attractive and desirable (it sounds like you needed that).

I hope you guys can work it out, and I hope you can forgive him, it's very likely that he didn't want to hurt you.

DixieFlatline · 14/07/2017 18:02

There have been three separate threads referencing this "gonewild" place on this board today. Does this come up a lot?

I was just about to post that there were two, haven't seen the third.

Transparent as fuck.

DixieFlatline · 14/07/2017 18:03

Thanks OP for providing some lively debate at work this afternoon, I think we all ended up on the opposite 'side' of this than we started on. I even made an account to reply.

Really, I just wanted to tell you that not everyone who looks at those sites are mouth-breathing pervert scum, and not everyone that posts on there is a silly, sad, attention seeking girl. In a strange way, I admire your bravery doing something that made you uncomfortable, and I'm glad that the attention you got made you feel better and attractive and desirable (it sounds like you needed that).

Chinny reckon. Hmm

user1498550798 · 14/07/2017 18:22

I struggle to see how anyone could regard what you or your DH did as infidelity! That is a huge stretch! What next, fantasising is infidelity?!

I think your idea was inspired OP and has certainly revealed some hypocrisy and attitudes on your DH's part that are probably more worrying than him looking at pics online.

Good luck, I hope the counselling is helpful.

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