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Physical abuse/domestic violence - can it ever really happen just once?

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FraisesFramboises · 11/07/2017 22:17

DP has been treating me awfully over the last few weeks/months and showing elements of emotional abuse in his behaviour (see previous thread-- I said I was going to break up with him, but I did not). But he had never done anything even approaching physical until Friday night when we had an argument based on him again not treating me respectfully.

During this he pushed me several times onto a bed (I stood up and pushed back to show him how it felt in an act of defence but other than that didn't touch him). He also punched a light, said I was acting like a 'fucking bitch' and 'cunt'. He knocked/slapped my phone out of my hand, banged it against the wall three times, (I wasn't drunk but he was, and I was trying to write down the horrible abusive things he was saying as a record for the next day to show him). Much worse than all this, ultimately when I was lying on the bed I listed the things he had done and said 'fuck you' . Mainly because I know he dislikes this and I wanted at this point to end the relationship. But I actually provoked him into grabbing me by the leg, dragging me off the bed from a lying position, and dropping me on the floor. My back is very bruised as I was basically dropped from a height. I think he meant to drag me off the bed but not actually drag me and drop me with the massive force he did, but either way it is of course awful and I am still in pain in my back.

I cannot believe I am writing this and I have not broken up with him. But he is saying
-It is the worst thing he has ever done and the worst mistake of his life and he will spend the rest of his life trying to make it up to me
-He was very drunk although he knows this is no excuse. He says he will never again drink to excess
-Doing this terrible thing has made something switch inside him and he has realised all the ways he was treating me before was disgusting and he knows he needs to change as a person and will never, ever make me feel terrified again

  • He has been reading Lundy Bancroft and other resources since then and quoting them back to me and apologising constantly. He says he wants to be a better man and internalise these messages and actually change
  • He wept and begged for forgiveness all night and the next day
-He says his perception of himself as a person has been shattered, he has done something he will hate himself for forever -He wants to spend forever making me feel as loved as I deserve so this is just the most distant memory-- a horrible memory but one we have got past -He talked about the abusiveness in his childhood

He has done a fucking terrible and awful thing. I know that. My back is still bruised and the memory of the rage on his face and the fear in my stomach is still fresh. I have told no one as I want to give him a chance after everything he has said to me. I am so in love and now he is saying he will do all the right things and begging for another chance to prove this. Saying things like I will start being the man you deserve and haven't had from this moment. But... everything I've ever read says, they don't change, you can't trust an abuser to change, etc. Is it ever possible? Is it always madness to give someone a chance after an assault like this?

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FraisesFramboises · 11/07/2017 22:21

Sorry that's quite long. Obviously having decided at this point not to break up yet , I can't tell any of my friends or family or they wouldn't understand why I am still with him.

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bluejelly · 11/07/2017 22:27

Sorry to hear he has done this to you. If you were my daughter I would say leave him. Violence in a relationship is rarely a one-off. And it sounds like he really hurt you.
I would have a chat to Women's Aid and ask their advice.
Do you have children together?

snowdancer · 11/07/2017 22:30

You don't really WANT to leave him, do you?

You have listed all his tears and excuses, the lines he has memorised, the promises he's making, and you think its all going to be hunky-dory.
He has been abusive for months, and still you haven't seen enough.

One good punch & you'd be badly injured or dead. And he would be full of weeping, snivelling self-pity when your loved ones arrived at the hospital to cry at your poor broken body.

He's good. He's very good. You want to believe him, don't you?

There is not a chance in Hell that this man will change.
And deep down, you know it.

FraisesFramboises · 11/07/2017 22:30

Thank you bluejelly-- no children and not married. No commitments really. Just stupidly in love which makes me feel even more stupid for not having told anyone or broken up with him.

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ohfourfoxache · 11/07/2017 22:32

Run. It NEVER EVER EVER happens once.

FraisesFramboises · 11/07/2017 22:32

Thank you snowdancer I think I do know it on some level. I came on here knowing you'd all probably say this. So I do want to hear it but I know I'm being stupid so I fully expect you to have a go at me xx thank you. It's helpful. It only happened on Friday I am still feeling so confused

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EmmaC78 · 11/07/2017 22:33

Sorry but my experience is that it is never just once, no matter how much they apologise.

JigglyTuff · 11/07/2017 22:34

It wasn't just once though was it? He pushed you back onto the bed several times, grabbed your phone out of your hand and smashed it against the wall three times, punched a light and finally dragged you onto the floor.

And it's been building up - it's not just a one off - it's an increasing escalation.

You have no reason to stay with an abuser. Leave.

bluejelly · 11/07/2017 22:37

No children and not married makes things so much easier. Love is transient - you can live without it or find someone more worthy of your love (in time).
If you stay he will do it again. Put yourself first and start by telling someone in real life or your Gp.

FraisesFramboises · 11/07/2017 22:38

Yeah I guess I meant it was all one incident/one argument but yes-- several things within it were abusive. Even the pushing or the phone thing or the swearing in themselves are more than enough reason to leave someone I know.

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Canoo · 11/07/2017 22:39

The same happened to me so I know how you feel. I was so in love. He was sobbing about how sorry he was. I thought the 1st violent incident would shock him into changing but it didn't. It just broke the seal and made the next incident more likely. He never punched me just dragged/shook me etc. The only way I got away was physically moving away and then online dating to try to meet someone else. it's hard but I met someone else and didn't look back. You can never be happy with him now as you will always be nervous and always have doubts.

FraisesFramboises · 11/07/2017 22:41

Thank you bluejelly. I want to tell my mum but just can't bring myself. As soon as I tell her, I know my relationship is over. I know I should but I can't yet.
I have made an appointment with my GP tomorrow though to check the back. I don't really need it because DP is a doctor and checked it out and sorted me out with anti inflammatories the next day.. which is even more messed up I guess. But I thought it would be good to have someone else check it and speak to the GP.

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FraisesFramboises · 11/07/2017 22:42

Thank you Canoo xx

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Florriesma · 11/07/2017 22:42

Oh, and to add to previuos poster they always come out with the same shit about how they're so disgusted by their behaviour, how they want to internalise this and be a new man/better man..blah blah, me me me.
Until the next time and then you'll have to listen to it all over agsin, compete with crocodile tears.

I think i find the same old lies more triggering than the acount of violence. Just walk. In a few months you'll wonder what the hell you were doing with him.

SnowiestMountain · 11/07/2017 22:43

He will do it again. Leave

JigglyTuff · 11/07/2017 22:45

Why I think it's important to distinguish a series of incidents within one argument from a single incident is that he kept on going. He did one violent thing after another and it was only when he really hurt you that he was shocked enough to stop.

He wasn't horrified the first time he shoved you.

cestlavielife · 11/07/2017 22:47

Just go
Now
You have no dc
No reason to hang around and see if next time the damage is worse
You can't think straight when you still with him
Of course he is sorry and patching you up
It's the. Cycle of abuse

Let him go tell someone seek help
I bet as a gp he won't admit it to gmc will He?

MrsHathaway · 11/07/2017 22:48

It wasn't just once for me.

He may genuinely be intending to change. He may be the love of your life and will never hurt you again - emotionally or physically. But you don't have to be with him while you (both) find out if that's true.

It would be completely reasonable for you to say you need space to process what happened. He can read books and seek help while you're away.

Very good decision to see an independent doctor.

PlymouthMaid1 · 11/07/2017 22:49

I don't know op because I only let it happen once.

FraisesFramboises · 11/07/2017 22:50

Thank you all. I'm trying to take in what you are saying. I never thought I'd be this woman defending a man in this circumstance , and your words are really helpful. I see what you mean now JigglyTuff. That is an excellent point.
I'm actually quite intelligent in life and in my job so I don't understand why I am so fucking stupid in this area of my life..

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snowdancer · 11/07/2017 22:52

Fraises -I have a beautiful daughter like you, and if she had gone through this and not told me, I would be devastated. I would want to pick her up and remove from danger. I would never forgive myself if she got hurt again.

Your "DP" is crapping himself because he knows that he has caused damage to your back, hence prescribing "anti-inflammatories". Make sure you see your own GP. Don't take any pills he has given you, they may not be what he says. List all your injuries & all that happened with your GP. Then photograph your injuries as evidence.

Leave before you have children and he does this to them.

Canoo · 11/07/2017 22:56

Telling people in real life helped. A key thing a friend said to me when she was exasperated that I wasn't getting away from him was "you're addicted to the drama". There was something addictive about the highs of him turning up on the doorstep with flowers etc begging for forgiveness. She put me on a dating site and then was bridesmaid at the subsequent wedding. I sometimes worry I would never have got away without her help. I look back and can't believe what an idiot I was for thinking he was the best I could do.

SixtiesChildofWild8lueSkies · 11/07/2017 22:58

Yes, it can happen only the once.................

either when you leave after that first time.................or they've killed you. Sad

mygorgeousmilo · 11/07/2017 22:58

So he's a doctor?? And checked over the injuries he caused you and said it was fine? I'm even more disgusted now. Please report to the police, and tell your mum. Get out of this before it gets worse. I have never, never ever in all my years of being in relationships, having friends in relationships, and working with vulnerable families EVER known of a single isolated random DV incident. They always always do it again. Once, as a previous poster said, once they've "broken the seal" of abuse towards you it's done. Even his behaviour afterwards is textbook post-violent behaviour. He'll have worked out what gets you back into his good books. Do not fall for it. Please take care of yourself, go to the GP, report, get away. He shouldn't even be a doctor, he is despicable!

Pestilentialone · 11/07/2017 22:59

Yes it can happen just once.
He is physically abusive, you leave. This removes the inevitability that it happens more than once.

Every battered woman had a time when she thought it was a once in a lifetime experience. The average battered woman leaves 7 to 8 times before permanently leaving a relationship. Unfortunately a few leave in body bags.

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